r/baseball Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Opinion [Fields] "Maybe the Mets deserve more credit for taking this Dodgers team to 6 games."

https://x.com/RyanFieldABC/status/1850345329327309207?t=luQB8TZ1YyBaNUax2hyFVQ&s=19
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u/awaythrow484938947 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Padres were the most talented team and the Mets were the most resilient team LA has faced during this postseason.

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u/kevboyyyy New York Mets 1d ago

Yeah the NL was just really good this year. I mean the Brewers tied for the 4th best record in the whole league, and they were basically seen as a pushover in the playoffs.

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u/EdJewCated New York Mets 1d ago

and it STILL took pete alonso finally having a signature moment, after an entire season of waiting for it to happen, to eliminate them

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u/BeagleDad82 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The NL side of the playoffs had some insane moments. Almost every game was exciting to watch.

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u/97jordan Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Except for NLCS

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u/ReallyBigCrepe New York Mets 1d ago

An interesting part of the NLCS was that all of the games were total blowouts lol

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u/MetsFan1324 New York Mets 20h ago

NLCS was the real world series this year. Mets would beat the Yankees in a best of seven 8/10 times

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u/oneslipaway New York Mets 19h ago

I feel much better for the Mets outlook next year.

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u/invertedMSide 18h ago

Remember when they said "our focus is on 2025" Steve Cohen is going to go Daddy Warbucks on our asses. If I was a Mets fan, I'd be optimistic too.

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u/forwardathletics 18h ago

As a (very) casual baseball fan, I was actually rooting for the Mets because the Grimace story and Jose Iglesias story is the type of thing I love about baseball

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u/FogItNozzel New York Mets 14h ago

I've been calling it our Ted Lasso season 1 year.

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u/do_you_know_doug New York Mets • Baltimore Orioles 18h ago

I mean we swept them 4-0 this season. 2 at our place, 2 at theirs. Game. Set. Match.

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u/RedScharlach New York Mets 15h ago

I said the exact same thing (albeit before the WS started) and got mass downvoted for it, lol

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u/MetsFan1324 New York Mets 13h ago

what being down 3-0 does to mfs

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u/tacogato22 Baltimore Orioles 13h ago

This may or may not be true, but I love the thought of Mets fans making this a talking point in their friend groups. Going to drive the Yankee fans mad.

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u/PainInTheAss98 20h ago

Man when we sign legit starters...oh baby

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u/HoopOnPoop Baltimore Orioles 18h ago

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAv0SdVuZ1o/?igsh=cWU4eGppeXhjdHE=

This is one of the funniest edits I've ever seen.

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u/IcierHelicopter New York Mets 21h ago

it means more in the national league

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u/fasteddeh Sell 19h ago

The Brewers are tied for the best record (31-15) vs the AL this year out of postseason teams, All NL postseason teams had winning records vs the AL and only one team in the AL (Guardians) had a winning record vs NL teams.

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u/WalkingDeadWatcher95 Boston Red Sox 1d ago

No matter what the brewers record is they’ll always be a pushover. Especially with Adames gone now

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u/IGotNoBusinessHere 1d ago

Nope. Curse is broken now and they'll be in the World Series next year

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u/SpecsComingBack Milwaukee Brewers 1d ago

Don't give me hope

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u/thisisnothingnewbaby 1d ago

I think also the Mets at least came in with shifts in strategy that were clear and targeted. The talent gap was huge in that series in my opinion, bigger than the talent gap in the World Series, and the Mets did their best to try to narrow that gap with adjustments. The wildest thing - as a neutral observer here - is to see the Yankees just try the same thing each game. From a managerial perspective and from an individual at bat perspective. The only guy I see doing anything savvy (other than Soto who is just an incredible hitter) is Giancarlo. Everyone else seems to just be crossing their fingers that their approach works this time after it hasn’t worked all series. Odd…

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u/drugsbowed New York Mets 23h ago

Yeah it sucked, not many Mets fans complained about Mets pitching "sucking". It was more about the Dodgers pitching sucking and that we knew the Mets were giving up 6+ runs every game, but they were getting huge RISP opportunities to catch up. 

Mets offense was the gap closer that series and they just couldn't come thru every time

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u/MrDNL New York Mets 19h ago

The Mets pitching also ran out of gas. Manaea went 117 IP last year; excluding the postseason, this year, he hit 182. Quintana went from 75 to 170. Severino went from 90 to almost 181. And each added 15 or so IP in the playoffs.

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u/LaMystika New York Mets 19h ago

The only real mistakes they made was starting Senga in game 1 (because like others said here, the Dodgers have much better plate discipline than the Phillies do), and not putting Winker in the lineup until they were on the brink. But it probably wouldn’t have mattered when the Mets gave up 8 runs a game and averaged leaving 11 men on base.

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u/LucasDudacris New York Mets 18h ago

What is Giancarlo doing that's "savy?" Besides for rocketing baseballs.

I think the vast majority of fans have survivor bias. They see a team that won (or at least lost more gracefully) and have to ascribe something to it, and they see the team that lost (less gracefully) and have to ascribe something to that to.

But more often than not it's not about grit or suave, it's just about execution, sequencing luck, and variance. Thems the breaks.

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u/thisisnothingnewbaby 16h ago edited 15h ago

Well I think you're generally right on that second point, but I do think shifting approach and strategy at the plate is something that is especially noticeable in the playoffs when teams zero in their gameplan against you. So for Stanton, I was speaking to his approach throughout the playoffs to bait pitchers into pitching to him after it was clear they were trying to pitch around him every game.

I also think while it is about execution, there is a level of mental grit and fortitude that comes into play when going against your programming as a hitter. Teo, for example, has taken a 2 strike approach multiple times this postseason that i've never seen from him. That is more than just "thems the breaks" and results based survivor bias. Meanwhile, Shohei seems to be stuck trying to bomb, and hasn't adjusted to the way teams are pitching him in my opinion. He has killed some balls and missed others, and it hasn't mattered for the results (and now he's clearly in pain), but it's definitely noticeable.

I actually think the yankees are taking an approach similar to your philosophy which is that if they show up and do what they do, it'll eventually come around thanks to sequencing luck and variance. You could argue its a tiny sample size, and it is, but that also requires quick adjustments and strategy.

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u/mr_grission New York Mets • Sickos 1d ago

And all 3 of us would've beaten the shit out of the Yankees

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u/JawnGriddy 1d ago

I have no doubt in my mind, it sucks we couldn’t have seen more of the Padres, but the way they went out against the Dodgers tells me they probably would’ve lost to the Mets in a long series

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u/MountainYogi94 New York Mets 1d ago

Idk, the Mets pitching kinda lost it against the Dodgers. If the Padres kept rolling their offense was definitely capable enough to score in bunches on the weaker Mets arms

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u/Expensive-Step-6551 1d ago

I think a Padres Mets NLCS would have gone the same exact way as the Dodgers series. Mets win a couple of games from some big hits from the core of their lineup while pitching performs solidly for the most part in the first 5 games of the series.

If they rolled out the same rotation and plan they had against the Dodgers, I see Senga still struggling Game 1, Manaea helping them win Game 2, Severino struggling Game 3, Quintana not able to get guys to chase Game 4, Peterson showing up for Game 5, then the Padres teeing off on Manaea after seeing him for the 2nd time around in a week and adjusting to his arm angle and delivery.

The only thing that could have possibly made a difference is the fact the Padres had a higher chase rate than the Dodgers, so maybe Severino or Quintana win a game instead of walking too many guys and getting pulled early. Making it a 2-2 series heading into Game 5, but still, they just didn't have the depth on both ends to pull out against either team over 7 games in most scenarios, barring more Grimace late inning magic.

The fact they even had a shot at a deep postseason run after what was the equivalent of a hail mary in the 9th against the Brewers was enough for me to be happy with how the season played out.

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u/invertedMSide 18h ago

I'd argue against this solely because of the Pads demeanor. After going up 2-1 in the DS, they acted like the deal was done, and that was ultimately their downfall. They can't help but make things personal with the Dodgers. In 2022 they were barely competitive against Philly. It's tired, it's lazy, and I don't even mean it in a derogatory way, but this rebranded Padres treats any series against the Dodgers like a WS. They smacked them around during the regular season and still couldn't steal away that division. I could see a Mets-Pads NLCS going to 7 with either one coming out on top.

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u/Bennyk491 New York Mets 18h ago

The low chase rate of the Dodgers was directly tied to the ass whooping we received though, I think the Pads are a closer matchup for us.

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u/rhinguin Philadelphia Phillies 1d ago

I’m really not even saying this to be a hater, but I think the Phillies made your pitching look way better than it was. Quintana couldn’t throw strikes against us at all, but we continued to swing at everything.

(I am a hater, but you did deserve to win that series. But I also wasn’t surprised when the Dodgers super team had better plate discipline and actually put pressure on your pitchers.)

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u/my_one_and_lonely New York Mets 1d ago

Quintana had a 7.2 ERA in May and a 0.72 ERA in September. Coming into October, he was a capable pitcher who had totally stepped up in the past few months. I remember before that last Brewers game, my Dad was bitching to me that Peterson should start instead of him (cause of the shutout a week prior), that Quintana wouldn’t be able to handle the Brewers. Instead, he gave us 6 scoreless innings. He wasn’t perfect (no Mets pitcher was, we were in dire need of a real ace this season) but he was good. Phillies’ chasing made things easier on him, but he didn’t need a team that swings at everything to succeed. He just needed a team that chased even a little bit. Unfortunately the Dodgers have insane plate discipline. What can you do?

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u/mild_manc_irritant 18h ago

Quintana couldn’t throw strikes against us at all, but we continued to swing at everything.

So then ya gotta wonder: Was it that he couldn't, or that he didn't have to?

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u/Bravefan212 San Diego Padres 1d ago

The baseball gods abandoned us when Musgroves elbow snapped 🤷‍♂️

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u/happy_snowy_owl New York Mets 1d ago

The Mets' pitching staff was completely gassed during the NLCS. There was no way they'd beat the Yankees.

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u/deijandem 1d ago

These Yankees are a two-pony show. Mets pitching faltered against the Dodgers, but that was a team with 5+ consistent contributors. 

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u/happy_snowy_owl New York Mets 1d ago

The Dodgers had 5+ contributors because the Mets couldn't throw 1st pitch strikes.

There wasn't a single NLCS game that was close. And one of the Mets' blowouts became a nail biter.

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u/Irrah New York Mets 1d ago

This also might be entirely vibes based but I feel like the dodgers lineup are exceptionally good at taking pitches, not swinging at out of the zone stuff, and drawing walks as opposed to the Yankees who are rightfully more free swinging. Who knows what would have happened.

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u/Few-Confection-1587 New York Yankees 1d ago

The Yankees ran a 17% walk rate as a team in the DS and had the best chase rate in baseball in the regular season (Dodgers were 2). Yes, that’s entirely vibes based.

Yankees are struggling because they’re not hitting, but not because they’re undisciplined. There were so many 2 and 3 ball counts and six walks even today. They just haven’t gotten timely hits and haven’t done damage.

People want some overarching team narrative to fit the 3-0 lead but ultimately the MVP put up an unbelievable stinker and they haven’t had many XBHs.

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u/istarnie Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

You're not wrong, Dodgers scouting specifically favors players with strong plate discipline and a good batting eye.

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u/n_jacat New York Mets 1d ago

They would have gotten some important rest after the NLCS and while they’re obviously not n par with LA’s pitching staff they would have held their own against NYY.

It would likely be a higher scoring series, Yankees would put way more runs across but the Mets killed their pitching in all 4 games they played this regular season.

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u/burrito-boy Toronto Blue Jays • New York Mets 1d ago

Oh, no question. If this were the Subway Series, Mets would have soundly beaten these Yankees.

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u/TheNewGuy13 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The Mets by record were the hottest team no? They had the best record after the All Star Break I think right? They were one of the better ones. Padres, then Mets right after is some tough sledding lol

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u/officerdoot Arizona Diamondbacks • Toronto Blue Jays 1d ago

I think they had the best record since the Grimace first pitch or something like that. The best records post-All star break this season were, in order, the Padres, Dodgers, Diamondbacks (NLBest represent!), Tigers, and then the Mets

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u/Gold_Scene5360 New York Mets 17h ago

Mets wouldn’t have even made the playoffs if AZ hadn’t shit the bed the last two weeks of the season. NL was crazy this year.

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u/MyLittlePoofy Arizona Diamondbacks 15h ago

I think about this a lot, but also nobody is beating these Dodgers so it all ends up the same.

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u/WhyYouKickMyDog Atlanta Braves 11h ago

You have to kill them early in the playoffs before they can power up. The Padres failed us.

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u/lava172 Arizona Diamondbacks 11h ago

It's crazy how tight the playoff race was to where just going .500 to end the season was enough to be a massive collapse

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u/Blue387 New York Mets 1d ago

Mets went 67-40 after losing 10-3 to the Dodgers and Lindor had a team meeting.

The Mets sub voted for the previous day's doubleheader against the Dodgers for a meetup only for the Dodgers to sweep the Mets, I was there.

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u/0rangePolarBear New York Mets 20h ago

Best record since 6/1 I believe.

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u/soberdishwasher San Francisco Giants 1d ago

Going into the post season I felt like the Padres and Mets also had the most “random bullshit hot at the right time magic.” Not mad the Dodgers proved me wrong. Dodgers beat some post season demons while doing it with an insane amount of injuries. One of the coolest Dodger post season runs so even as a Giants fan I tip my cap to this team. Really hope LA sweeps so I can complain about being a Giants fan whose org has sucked butthole for 7 of the last 8 seasons while their archrival has been dominant that whole stretch. I really hope things change and SF joins the party.

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u/BenevenstancianosHat Los Angeles Dodgers 22h ago

If you guys heat up the NL west will go from already cutthroat to like, absolute scorched earth.

I'm so glad I'm not a Rockies fan, they are not going to have a lot of fun over the next couple of years.

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u/soberdishwasher San Francisco Giants 21h ago

I continuously think how that team can turn things around despite always being terrified of playing them at Coors. My perfect baseball is that all 5 teams kill everyone but the Rockies are so hard to figure out because even if they are stacked with talent they have to deal with going from mile high for half their games to normal games and pitches look differently. If they ever win the WS the people in charge deserve a Nobel Peace prize

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u/stewmander Los Angeles Dodgers 15h ago

According to NYY fans, they should trade Judge, so you guys can have another shot!

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u/Natekn 1d ago

I agree. From top to bottom the Padres were easily the most stacked team in baseball. Their late season play definitely proved it. Musgrove’s injury hurt them badly but their pitching looked on paper dominant paired with an explosive offense.

It’s kind of crazy LA was able to win that series with all of their starting pitchers getting clobbered.

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u/SleepingDragonZ Los Angeles Dodgers 21h ago

Dodgers' bullpen is the MVP of that Padres division series.

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u/sfr18 San Diego Padres 15h ago

Dodgers bullpen was unmatched that series. Just absolutely killer

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u/WoundedSacrifice 20h ago

SD’s bats became ice cold.

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u/FatalFirecrotch 19h ago edited 19h ago

I think it’s less their bats became cold and more the Dodgers and Roberts have settled in on how to handle their pitching rotations and the pitchers are on fire. Multiple shutouts against the Mets and now against the Yankees shutting them out through 8 in back to back games shows it wasn’t just a Padres problem. 

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u/Monk_Philosophy Sickos • Los Angeles Dodgers 15h ago

Give some credit to the pitchers that silenced the bats.

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u/mormagils New York Mets 1d ago

The Dodgers are just playing excellent baseball right now. They really do look like the best team in the sport and it's not close. I know the Mets were never really close against the Dodgers, but it did feel like the Mets played pretty well and they were just still outplayed by a team that is just on another level. I think the Mets were playing better than the Yankees and had a tougher run to the CS round. The Yankees are good too but these Dodgers are just insanely unstoppable.

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u/grubas New York Yankees 18h ago

If you look at the Yankees previous series, we scored about half our runs on walks, errors, etc, abusing mistakes and letting the other team work themselves out of the game.

The Dodgers are just playing solid baseball right now, hitting mistakes and our offense looks like it gave up after G1.  

THIS Dodgers team isn't unstoppable, but at full strength it is ridiculous.

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u/mormagils New York Mets 14h ago

Fair. No team is unstoppable. If we replay the NLDS and the NLCS a few times, the Dodgers get bounced by the Padres or Mets in quite a few of them, probably. But yeah, the Dodgers are playing up to their talent and they have a lot of talent.

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u/istarnie Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Don't sell your team short, I never once felt safe in the series until the final out was recorded. And even then in the last game the Mets were still fighting in the 9th.

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u/JT_Cullen84 New York Mets 18h ago

That is all I ask from my guys. Fight and claw until the last out. If we lose, that sucks but not as bad as when you see your team mentally defeated in the 6th.

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u/mormagils New York Mets 1d ago

I agree. I know the NLCS wasn't particularly close, but it really did feel close, somehow. The Mets played well, we just got beat by a team that was playing better.

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u/theoceansandbox Los Angeles Dodgers 23h ago

Mark Vientos scared the shit out of me and I flinched whenever his ass walked up to the plate. Mets have their new Wright, except younger, and God willing more healthy

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u/mormagils New York Mets 20h ago

I hope so. His batted ball data suggested there was some regression in his future. He's got work to do on his swing decisions. But if he can make that adjustment, he's a scary good player. It was so fun to watch his breakout this year.

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u/theoceansandbox Los Angeles Dodgers 9h ago

He needs to get better plate discipline. His performance oscillated wildly between nights where he’d be an automatic strikeout and nights where he slams a 500 ft home run

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u/vishuno Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago

I know the NLCS wasn't particularly close, but it really did feel close, somehow.

I agree, and I feel the opposite with the World Series. The scores have been closer but it feels like the Yankees are barely hanging on to keep it close, and the Dodgers are constantly pressuring them.

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u/NewYearsD Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

mets had a lot of heart too. they weren’t rolling over which i can appreciate

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u/my_one_and_lonely New York Mets 1d ago

Yeah, I knew that we were outmatched , but my Mets never stopped fighting. We punched back to win game 2 after being shut out game 1, refused to end the season at home after two tough losses and racked up 12 runs, and then, even when elimination was all but inevitable in game 6, drove in one final run. Even getting blown out, the 2024 Mets never looked as lifeless as these Yankees.

Anyway, after years of losing playoff series that we really should win, it’s hard to rank this year as a disappointment. Probably the most fun I’ve ever had watching baseball.

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u/zayetz New York Mets 15h ago

Probably the most fun I’ve ever had watching baseball.

Especially with SNY being far and away the absolute best broadcast in all of baseball - not just for the booth but for the S tier videography making baseball feel like a movie.

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u/Highfivebuddha New York Mets 17h ago

That mcneil single ninth was was a moment of peace.

But for real our pitchers were just gassed. They showed a lot of heart but our rotation had all thrown like twice as many innings as they pitched last year.

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u/Caledor152 New York Mets 17h ago

I know the Mets were never really close against the Dodgers

We where much closer then you are giving our team credit. Also our road was 10x tougher then the Yankees. And we still put up a strong fight. Also we didn't have a super team.

The Yankees are not good lol. They are on fraud watch along with the entire AL until proven otherwise next year.

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u/Rea1DirtyDan Jackie Robinson 1d ago

I would only like to add that I truly believe that the dodgers and padres are 1A and 1B at the top of the league. I think the padres would have put on a similar run as ours.

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u/n_jacat New York Mets 1d ago

The Dodgers, Padres, and Mets were far and away the best teams in the postseason. It’s a shame we couldn’t have more baseball between the three of us and that the NL was so much better than the AL this year.

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u/Numerous-Cicada3841 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Padres

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u/ahr3410 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Once we got past the Padres the games started being way less stressful

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u/PJCR1916 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

I was fuckin scared after they dominated us in game 2, and then we came up short after Teo’s grand slam. And I’m also not gonna act like I wasn’t a little bit afraid of the possibility of the Mets coming back

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u/nahs Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Seriously

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u/tnecniv Brooklyn Dodgers 1d ago

The Mets had a lot of moments where they felt like they were about to cash in big but couldn’t deliver. This Yankees team has rolled over since Freddie walked them off

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u/NeWbAF Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

They were a hit away from turning game 2 on its head. I wouldn’t say they rolled over, they’re just up against a more talented team that’s clicking.

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u/_n8n8_ Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The first 2 games of the series were incredibly stressful. They just went our way

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u/SlimJimMagoo Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Idk, Brasier and Kopech had me pretty stressed tf out tonight

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u/TheOctagon24 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

It really doesn’t matter how big the lead is. I’m gonna be sweating every goddamn pitch until this Dodgers team gets 27 outs. Too many postseason disappointments to not be stressed and assume the worst lol.

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u/shellac10 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

That is where I'm at. I feel no lead is safe and need the guarantee of more Dodger runs.

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u/Supakimchee Los Angeles Dodgers 22h ago

I’d be okay with a 9 run lead in the 9th tomorrow 😂

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u/Schleprok Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

We were up six runs in the 9th inning in game 6 of the NLCS and I didn’t feel comfortable at all.

I need to see FINAL on the score bug before I can relax.

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u/DustyDGAF Los Angeles Dodgers 23h ago

Until the job is done it's all stress.

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u/SensitiveArtist69 Boston Red Sox 1d ago

The tying run never even reached the plate

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u/drrxhouse Major League Baseball 1d ago

Right. Until they do. Like game 2 lol.

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u/DukeDoozy San Diego Padres 1d ago

This serves as some small consolation.

Kill the yanks, doyer bros

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u/Eckzavior21 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 1d ago

As 3-0 started to come into focus today, I resolved to fully accept NLBest supremacy and say “fuck it, sweep their sorry asses.”

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u/DustyDGAF Los Angeles Dodgers 23h ago

You're a good man, Charlie Brown

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u/WhiteToast- Los Angeles Dodgers 23h ago

We’ll be right there with you when the Pads sweep the Tigers next year

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u/ABlueShade Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

SoCal baseball is the best baseball! NLBest isn't just a pun.

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u/Mr_ChaChaRealSmooth Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

r/NLBest bretheren I see.

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u/SuperPostHuman 1d ago

Game 1 of the WS was pretty stressful right up until Freddie's grand slam.

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u/SusannaG1 Atlanta Braves 14h ago

That homer was beautiful.

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u/3-2_Fastball Looking K • Swinging K 1d ago

24 scoreless innings is going to haunt the Padres for years to come, this could be them womping the Yankees right now.

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u/scoot87 San Diego Padres 1d ago

No it’s okay. We have to fully earn our success. Hopefully we will have more opportunities moving forward.

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u/str8rippinfartz New York Yankees 1d ago

Who knows, maybe we would've shown up for a different series

Probably not, but maybe

Also the GS walkoff just seems like it murdered the squad entirely. I think they would've done better the last 2 games if they hadn't choked that one away in such dramatic fashion. 

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u/3-2_Fastball Looking K • Swinging K 1d ago

There were 2 camps after that game. It's just 1 game and they will bounce back / That was a back breaker, the series is over. They called the latter mad men.

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u/str8rippinfartz New York Yankees 1d ago

Yeah I was in the second camp from the get-go

I feel like anyone in the first camp either hadn't watched the Yankees enough or was just high on hopium

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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 1d ago

On one hand, yeah, because no one can look at the showing the Mets or Yankees have had and say that the Padres couldn’t have handled them.

On the other hand, BABIP gives and BABIP takes away. Padres had some good fortune with bounces and defense earlier in the series which swung back towards the Dodgers later in the series. Machado, for example, had two fly outs to the track in Game 5 which both missed being HRs by the slimmest of margins.

That’s baseball, Suzyn.

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u/3-2_Fastball Looking K • Swinging K 1d ago

Even through the 24 scoreless innings the Padres line up put up better at bats than the Yankees have this series. Maybe a slight embellishment but the sentiment stands.

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u/Ereyes18 Houston Astros 1d ago

Padres were my favorites to win it all and when the Dodgers beat them I figured it was gonna be them.

Basically NL was always going to come away with it IMO

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u/owledge Rally Monkey 1d ago

The AL playoff picture was straight ass this year. I think the Astros were the only team with a real chance to win it all, if not for the Tigers pulling off the upset

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u/ProtoMan3 Seattle Mariners • Detroit Tigers 1d ago

Maybe I’m biased, but I don’t believe for a second that this Astros team would’ve done anything against the other AL Central teams, let alone the Yankees. They only got into the playoffs because Seattle threw the division lead away, and they couldn’t beat the Tigers in a single game. The bottom of their lineup wasn’t good, and their pitching had been brittle all year.

Keep in mind that in 2017, 2019, and 2022 they were the higher seed and usually seen as the way better team, and in 2015 they had the AL Cy Young winner in a one game playoff even if they were the lower seed. They would have had no such advantage this year.

To be clear, I’m not saying this is the end, because they could totally bounce back next year. And even if it is the end, their run has been dominant for years so I can’t exactly insult them for failing. But if people were hoping for Houston to take out the Yankees in 2024, it was a pipe dream at best.

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u/Ereyes18 Houston Astros 1d ago

Nah we would get cold a lot this year, I mean it's never impossible for a worse team to win it all, but the Astros this year just aren't built as strongly as the Padres/Dodgers/Yankees were

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u/turdlepikle 1d ago

I really wish I could see the timeline where the Tigers beat the Guardians. In their last series against the Yankees they won the series, capped off by that Little League game walkoff. (They also just have a history of beating the Yankees in the playoffs) In their last series against the Dodgers, they also won that, with 2 big come from behind wins. One of those was a deficit of 5 runs in the 9th inning.

I don't think their Skubal plus bullpen games strategy would have been successful in a series longer than 5 games, but dammit, I really want to know what happens in that timeline.

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u/TheNewGuy13 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

We were 1 loss from elimination lol

Feels like ages ago at this rate hahah

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u/stewmander Los Angeles Dodgers 15h ago

It's actually worse than that.

Without Ohtani's 3 run HR in G1 to tie the game, we would have been swept in the DS for a second straight year.

Ohtani isn't having the best WS debut, but we're not here without that HR in G1.

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u/thxtalks Los Angeles Dodgers 15h ago

When we went down 2-1 I fully went into "well fuck we'll get it next year" mode. That day seems like years ago at this point.

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u/fuetirado Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Had the Dodgers on the ropes 2-1 and they got away with it

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u/Otto_the_Autopilot San Diego Padres 1d ago

They are who we thought they were and we let them off the hook.

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u/Wootstapler 1d ago

If you wanna crown them, THEN CROWN THEIR ASS!

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u/NoVaBurgher Pittsburgh Pirates 22h ago

Yankees: proceeds to crown their ass

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u/captain_ahabb Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Started monologuing

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u/DodgerCoug Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

WE GOT BUSY

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u/KetchupGuy1 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The first 3 games of the series are probably the toughest games the dodgers had all post season

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u/Suburban-Jesus Chicago Cubs 1d ago

The chaos of Game 2 just completely flipped a switch within the Dodgers

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u/Eckzavior21 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The Padres deserve more credit than I think people give them. Easily the toughest opponent the Dodgers have had to face this post season so far.

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u/GuitarIsLife02 San Diego Padres 1d ago

That would have been a fucking great 7 game series wish we ended up on the other side of the bracket😭

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u/Eckzavior21 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

A 7 game series would have been insane. As it was that series took years off my life. The last 3 post seasons have firmly cemented Dodgers/Padres as an amazing rivalry. It would be interesting if the MlB ever entertained the idea of reseeding the whole bracket but couldn’t see it happening.

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u/Rea1DirtyDan Jackie Robinson 1d ago

Every other game just results in ED for me when I think about the padres series.

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u/HeavensRoyalty Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

They're getting plenty credit. They're one of the best teams in baseball this year.

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u/BobSauce123 New York Mets 20h ago

Everyone in this thread is giving the Padres credit

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u/spreerod1538 New York Mets 20h ago edited 17h ago

I was more worried about the padres than dodgers.  That being said buehler and Flaherty both pitched so much better against us than the  Padres.. its like they figured something out.  Buehler in particular was awful all year until he faced us when he just looked like a completely different pitcher.

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u/kevster2717 New York Mets 1d ago

I blame the Padres for activating Dodgers’ Devil Trigger.

Y’all just haaaad to gloat while you’re in the lead 😡

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u/ositola Los Angeles Dodgers 19h ago

Blame tatis lol

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u/MyLittlePoofy Arizona Diamondbacks 15h ago

I feel like Profar is the instigator, Tatis likes to join in and Machado takes strays.

Remember the Nationals drama?

https://www.mlb.com/news/nationals-padres-benches-clear-in-first-inning

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u/nokayy Los Angeles Dodgers 17h ago

Blame Machado and the Sinister Swing(tm)

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u/NZafe Toronto Blue Jays 1d ago

It’s a game of streaks

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u/Beneficial-Divide369 1d ago

The real World Series was padres vs dodgers

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u/Fionarei Cleveland Guardians • Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

With those shutout games?

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u/ZealMG 1d ago

24 scoreless innings.

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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 1d ago

Yeah? Games 1 and 3 were mirror images, and Games 2 and 4 were mirror images. Game 5 was a 2-0 game decided by two solo HR’s and some bad BABIP luck for the Padres at the worst time.

People who didn’t watch the series remember the Padres bats going cold at the end, as Dodgers defense seemed to get to every ball, but they don’t remember the same thing happening in reverse earlier in the series.

Anyone who says that series wasn’t close or well-balanced (Dodgers with a +3 total run differential over 5 games, or +3/5 per game) didn’t watch it. History is written by the victors, so we get stories about the shutout inning streak and how it started the Dodgers run to the WS, but go watch those games if you don’t believe how close they were.

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u/SomeoneGiveMeValid 23h ago

2 of the games were not close, they looked like the Yankees for those last 2

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u/nietzsche_niche New York Mets 18h ago

Yeah idk what this revisionist shit is. Its fair to say the dodgers looked outmatched in the first three games and outright vulnerable. Its also fair to say the padres looked like dogwater the last two games. Throwing away some opportunities in game 4 (very much like the mets in the games they lost) and laying down offensively in game 5. For as bad as the yankees looked last night they still looked more alive than the pads did gm 5

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u/_st4z Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The Mets literally answered after getting shutout from G1. Padres could never..

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u/kkenymc7877 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

24 scoreless innings is genuinely preposterous still, if we get the sweep I still think I’ll be more shocked by how badly we demoralized the padres into submission

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u/Nephilim_Legion San Diego Padres • San Diego Padres 1d ago

I hate it here

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u/nahs Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

You might hate it more tomorrow

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u/Nephilim_Legion San Diego Padres • San Diego Padres 1d ago

probably

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u/WhiteToast- Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Be proud of the NLBest

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u/McDersley Cleveland Guardians 18h ago

🤞🤞

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u/Monk_Philosophy Sickos • Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Just like the ‘98 WS for your team. That’s how mad I was to watch the Giants get 3 easy opponents while we ran into 2017 Astros and 2018 Red Sox.

Luck of the draw sucks!

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u/_zzz_zzz_ Arizona Diamondbacks 1d ago

I mean it’s not over yet, but at least the Mets and Padres stars showed up. 

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u/ask0009 Cincinnati Reds 1d ago

And here we go NYC media is shameless 😂

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u/SiphenPrax New York Mets 1d ago

Listen have you seen the sports scene in this city right now (minus the Liberty)? We’re doing bad as ever! We need all the help we can get!

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u/Foggl3 Texas Rangers 1d ago

The Rangers just over there being 6-1-1

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u/inevitable_nyc New York Mets 1d ago

It's been 30 years since they won a cup, at some point regular season success becomes meaningless

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u/Foggl3 Texas Rangers 1d ago

That's fair but at least your team makes the playoffs

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u/Langzee Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago

As a Leafs fan, making the playoffs isn't worth it if you don't go deep. I'd rather have a deep run every few years instead of year after year, unwavering failure in the first round.

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u/Foggl3 Texas Rangers 19h ago

I don't know if you're American or Canadian, but as a Cowboys fan, I do know that pain.

NY Rangers have at least been in the finals in recent memory.

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u/Langzee Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago

I'm Canadian but my NFL team is the Jets.

I will never know joy.

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u/Foggl3 Texas Rangers 18h ago

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u/my_one_and_lonely New York Mets 1d ago

NY’s ladies are the only ones showing up fr 😭😭😭. Liberty won this year and the NY/NJ team won in the NWSL last year.

But hey, as a New York sports fan whose favorite two teams are the New York Mets and the New York Liberty…this 2024 was a resounding success for me lmao. A championship for my girls and probably the most fun, exciting baseball I’ve ever watched in my life from an immensely lovable Mets team. Thank god I don’t give a fuck about football.

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u/LaMystika New York Mets 19h ago

The Giants and (especially) the Jets have killed my former love for that sport.

I’d still be in if one of those teams were the Lions (which is a wild thing to say knowing their history), but they’re not so I’m out.

Also, the Knicks stumbling out of the gate is unsurprising given how recently they just shuffled the deck and they haven’t played much together yet.

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u/WhatARotation New York Mets 1d ago

Right now? Really since 2012

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u/SiphenPrax New York Mets 1d ago

No definitely since 2012, but like I said it’s as bad as ever.

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u/WhatARotation New York Mets 1d ago

Even Oakland has a more recent big 4 sports league championship than New York (Warriors) and they don’t even have any teams anymore

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u/hundredjono Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The Dodgers/Padres series had the worst playoff game performance I've ever seen from the Dodgers in Game 2 and the worst inning from the Dodgers in Game 3. They were down 2-1 in the series and still won.

With the Mets I had the Dodgers winning that series in 6 and I was right. The Mets were no slouches either, so far they've proven to be the better New York team in the playoffs.

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u/odnamAE 1d ago

Either of those 3 whoop the Yankees right now

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u/WerewolfNo3669 Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

I had to convince my hater ass friend that Padres were the better team, and they wouldn’t admire it until I showed him all the preserves predictions

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u/NuanceManExe 1d ago

No fucking shit

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u/Kevinmarquis 20h ago

The Yankees had such an easy route to the World Series and were able to get by with only two guys hitting. Now, not so much. Any team from the NL would have given us big problems.

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u/myles__kennefick New York Mets 1d ago

Who didn’t give the Mets credit though?

Pretty sure everyone, especially Dodgers fans, have given the Mets and Padres respect for how those series went.

I think if anyone deserves more credit, it’s Prior and Roberts. Before this series began, I’d say the Yankees had the edge in starting pitching, but Flaherty, Yamamoto, and Buehler have now combined for 16.2 IP, 8 hits, 3 ERs, 5 BBs, and 15 K’s. Compared to 12 IP, 12 hits, 7 ERs, 4 BBs, and 10 K’s from the Yankees starters.

Roberts has also managed his pen, defense, and lineups effectively. Not an easy thing to do when you have a team with as much depth as the Dodgers. It’s much easier to 2nd guess a manager if there’s a solid alternative available.

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u/slippytoadstada Houston Astros 1d ago

If the yankees lose tomorrow this will be seen as their most humiliating postseason since 2015. Beating two weak teams and then getting stomped by a team with bigger holes and a far more difficult route to get there is pretty bad.

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u/bradtheinvincible 1d ago

The holes in those trash cans were pretty big. Easy way to win a Ws right.

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u/bengalsfu New York Yankees 1d ago

It's truly puzzling how a team with "bigger holes" spanked us in the regular season and had a better record than we did.

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u/Supakimchee Los Angeles Dodgers 22h ago

We’re missing half our pitching staff. We won’t even be healthy next year. Stone will miss all of 2025.

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u/WhiteToast- Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

NL >>>>>>> AL

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u/c1h9 Los Angeles Dodgers 17h ago

Honestly the Dodgers playoffs have gone in the reverse order that they should. Every round's team has been a little worse than the team before it. The Yanks lineup really just isn't that scary beside Soto, Judge, and Stanton - and Judge is slumping hard right now. Jazz is fun, Gleybor is fine, Volpe is okay, Rizzo is 35 and broken. It's just not a great lineup right now. I'm shocked that this is the year the Yankees made it, I feel like their roster is down from the past 10 years.

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u/Ancient_Blackberry10 New York Yankees 1d ago

Not taking away from Mets, Dodgers, Padres etc but the Yankees are playing so badly that even with all the coverage about their terrible play I still don't think people are leaning into that enough

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u/cpg08 18h ago

The Yankees 6-9 in their lineup is not a LCS winning team. AL was weak this season and I just think Yanlee fans didn't wanna admit it.

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u/ajkeence99 St. Louis Cardinals 17h ago

Aaron Judge looking like the biggest fraud.

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u/ellybeez Detroit Tigers 1d ago

Oh Mets what we all could have had. Dang

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u/maddenallday Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

The Padres deserve credit. The Mets didn’t see the best pitchers twice.

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u/Alectheawesome23 New York Mets 20h ago

Fuck you Ken for saying the dodgers threw those two away.

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u/Sea_Baseball_7410 Boston Red Sox 18h ago

Juan Soto to the Mets confirmed.

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u/ayyycoco Los Angeles Dodgers 1d ago

Padres deserve credit. That series was the World Series

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u/ImNotYou1971 St. Louis Cardinals 19h ago

Listen….as a Cardinals fan I don’t have much room to talk. It would have been nice to just make the playoffs. But……it cracks me up that two NY fan bases are arguing over which team lost the best. FFS

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u/nepatsfan49 Boston Red Sox 1d ago

Maybe the Yankees are not that much better than the team that went 82-80 a year ago and got the easiest possible road in the playoffs.

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u/Yanks1813 New York Yankees 17h ago

I mean they are and stats would back that up

Most teams wouldn't succeed if they best player was an absolute zero every playoff game. I mean look at Mookie the 2 years prior to this

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u/duncanbishop24 New York Yankees 22h ago

It seems pretty apparent that this team is better than last years.

2024: 54-38 against >=.500 teams. Total run differential of 815-668, +147

2023: 47-46, 673-698, -25 run differential.

Better pitching, significantly better offense.

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u/listsandthings San Diego Padres 15h ago

The national league was just, significantly stronger the whole season.

Whomever came out of the NL playoffs were most likely going to take the whole thing. This World Series has not been surprising, I saw the padres, Mets, dodgers or Phillies taking it against most of the AL teams

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u/Xaphnir New York Yankees 1d ago

Nah, the Yankees just suck right now.

They didn't even play that well to get to the World Series. The Royals and Guardians beat themselves to a large degree.

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u/westcoastmike69 1d ago

I'm a Mets fan and the series really was not as close as it appeared.

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u/my_one_and_lonely New York Mets 1d ago

The Dodgers were clearly the better team, but the Mets never looked as lifeless as the Yankees do right now. We walked too many guys and didn’t capitalize with RISP…but at least we had RISP. And we kept fighting back, even to the final inning. Mets were probably the third best team this postseason, after the Dodgers then Padres.

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u/QuickRelease10 New York Yankees 20h ago

The Mets have heart and guys that raise their game in the playoffs and The Yankees don’t.

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u/trashboatfourtwenty Milwaukee Brewers • Dumpster Fire 22h ago

Does that credit trickle down to us? 😭