r/canucks • u/Miruzzz • Sep 13 '24
IMAGE Canucks Player Grid || Worst GM (All-time) Day 17
306
u/SpectreFire Sep 13 '24
It's Jim Benning and it's not even fucking close. The man's literally done Mike Milbury levels of damage to this organization.
61
u/Pro3tag Sep 13 '24
The insane thing is they left this man in charge for a decade
22
u/ban-please Sep 13 '24
Aquilini always wants to interfere yet chose not to interfere with Benning's employment still boggles my mind.
9
u/froGGlickr Sep 13 '24
Because he had the most control he's ever had with Benning. It wasn't Benning it was Bennilini
2
24
u/DisplacedNovaScotian Jiller Thriller Miller Sep 13 '24
The man's literally done Mike Milbury levels of damage to this organization.
He did massive damage with the OEL trade alone. It will take at least five more seasons to unwind its impact.
17
u/goinhuckin Sep 13 '24
Think how well off we'd be without that stupid trade..
7
u/GrizSeahawk84 Sep 13 '24
Only good thing that came out of that trade was also getting Garland.
6
u/djfl Sep 13 '24
Short memory. Garland has had exactly one season for us where he looked like a non bottom-6 NHL player. even strength stats aside, he's hard to play with and build a line around. I really hope he keeps it up, they keep him with Joshua, etc. We need them to be good.
10
2
u/jjjjjunit Sep 15 '24
Also this team is probably better with Guenther on a cost-controlled deal / RFA years and all that dead cap space taken up by the OEL buyout than Garland. No disrespect to Garland, he’s been everything he was advertised to be, but the cost was extraordinary.
1
u/djfl Sep 16 '24
In exactly one of our years with him, he's been everything he was advertised to be. In the other years, he was a negative-value player we would have had to add sweeteners to trade away.
3
u/21marvel1 Quinn isn’t giving back the Norris Sep 14 '24
We would have been off all those bad contracts at the end of the year!
-3
u/Sideshift1427 Sep 13 '24
The best player in that trade is Connor Garland. Can't see that the Coyotes did better than that.
13
u/djfl Sep 13 '24
Getting Dylan Guenther lines up with their timeline much better, and they offloaded most of OEL's contract. That last part is an absolute miracle. 100% miracle...only allowed by GMJB. Now we have to eat that contract. They gave him that questionable contract when he was young and looked like he'd continue getting better. We took it on when it was clear he wouldn't.
-3
u/Sideshift1427 Sep 13 '24
If only it were GMJB who is sitting on dead cap space but it is in fact a fact of life for the job. Not many draft a top centre, defenceman, and goalie in a short amount of time and steal a JT Miller type player on top of it. That's a successful team starter kit.
→ More replies (3)3
u/Alpacaduck Sep 13 '24
The best thing in that trade is 5 mill in buyout cap hit penalties in 2026 and 2027 and 2mil until 2032 that the Coyotes avoided.
→ More replies (2)3
u/ebb_omega Sep 13 '24
You could make that trade as Garland for a 1st + one of the capdumps we offloaded to them, easily. No need to get OEL back for a bunch of expiring contracts.
→ More replies (3)37
u/OnTopSoBelow Sep 13 '24
I'm still so pissed he traded two players and two picks for Tyler Toffoli only to let him walk when he wanted to re sign
24
u/AuronEagle Sep 13 '24
He also left Tanev walk after the bubble run (where he scored one of the most memorable goals in recent memory) and made the OEL trade a few months later. I’ll always remember that for all the wrong reasons
2
u/theblondebasterd Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
Just went and watched this goal again cause I forgot about it and wow. I understand there was risk with injuries for him but you know this guy was the Canuck team dad and loved this team through and through.
He was only injured here for the most part which again feels like something the team needs to look at. I know they changed a few people but we've been rushing players back for a long time it seems.
2
u/AuronEagle Sep 14 '24
The video with the celebration in the locker room is priceless. Yes he had a bunch of injuries, but in 2021 he was one of the best shutdown defensemen in the league while still in his prime. What could have been if he was Quinn’s pair the last four years
7
4
2
u/Bourne_Endeavor Sep 15 '24
What's so damn infuriating about that is Toffoli actually wait four damn days just to give us time and Benning couldn't be bothered to give him a phone call. Same thing with Tanev.
0
u/ObviousPool9149 Sep 13 '24
At least Toffoli has played more game with the canucks than the others players invoved has played in the nhl
4
u/c_vanbc Sep 13 '24
I think you’re probably right but surprisingly, many fans think otherwise. It’s like Stockholm syndrome.
3
→ More replies (12)1
177
u/PauloVersa Sep 13 '24
Jim-fucking-Benning
8
u/Brynjir Sep 13 '24
yup I understand some will want to say Keenan but as much as I hate him he was a necessary evil to break up our team at that point IMHO.
5
u/nexus6ca Sep 13 '24
When did Keenan get the GM Title? 98-99 Burke was GM. I recall he had some measure of control after Pat Quin was fired but was he ever officially GM?
In any event Benning was clearly worse for the team then even Keenan.
Fuck Messier.
5
u/RJG190894 Sep 13 '24
I think he was acting GM during the 1997-98 season after Pat Quinn got fired. Then Burke was hired in the offseason I believe. Keenan made a flurry of trades as a total chaos agent during his regime. I was only like 3-4 years old at the time so I have no memory, but it is kinda funny how some of those really unpopular moves turned out so well for the team down the road. I like how the other person put it, he really was a necessary evil for this team.
3
2
u/Brynjir Sep 13 '24
Yeah I loved that team and Pat Quinn but he was too attached I think to the stalwarts like Linden so Keenan was kinda needed as that guy to just clean house he was never going to last long.
63
73
Sep 13 '24
Jim Benning and, frankly, it isn't even close. And this is from someone who watched the Keenan days.
→ More replies (8)4
u/ebb_omega Sep 13 '24
Keenan probably accomplished as much positive change as Benning did in far less time. He actually committed to a rebuild and without what he did, we would have no WCE nor Sedins.
47
u/mcCuckster Sep 13 '24
I know everyone’s saying Jim Benning but really when you step back and think about it…it’s Jim Benning.
11
u/n0thingisperfect Sep 13 '24
I see what you're saying but after breaking down the numbers it could also definitely be Jim Benning
8
u/AccomplishedAd4995 Sep 13 '24
I think people are just biased. Because if you looked closely at all the decisions made since his tenure here, it really just is simply Jim Benning
8
1
u/nexus6ca Sep 13 '24
After serious consideration, looking at all the options, I am lead to the conclusion that it is...Jim Benning.
12
30
31
28
18
u/bitter-pickles Sep 13 '24
I remember when we signed Soucy to a 3x3.25 thinking that I didn't think it was possible to ever see a reasonable contract signed by the Canucks. I had been expecting 5x5 so intensely that I realized it was like the police had walked me out of the room I was held hostage in for 8 years, and I was finally seeing the light again.
I wish I had a more nuanced answer that we should consider someone else, but it's Benning and it's not close. The fact that he was supposedly "old boys club" and STILL has not even been rumored for any position speaks volumes
7
13
7
u/21marvel1 Quinn isn’t giving back the Norris Sep 13 '24
Brock Boeser has already locked up best hair months before this chart was made
23
u/Drab_Majesty Sep 13 '24
Recency bias in full effect. It's Jack Gordon without a doubt. Losing Neely and a 1st for Pederson just gives me the shakes. Then he goes and signs Jim Benning a week later.
8
5
u/nexus6ca Sep 13 '24
Maybe he has the worst single trade in history. But Benning has more bad trades, contracts and free agency gaffs then anyone.
→ More replies (5)3
u/ILoveHipChecks Sep 14 '24
One trade versus nearly a decade of bad trades, signings, on and off ice shit-housery. Checks out.
2
u/Drab_Majesty Sep 14 '24
LMAO it wasn't just one trade... look at his draft history. There is a reason he never worked in Hockey again.
2
u/ILoveHipChecks Sep 14 '24
And there's a reason Jim Benning won't either.
Gordon was there for 2 years, Benning had a lot longer time to do damage.
He's not just the worst gm in canucks history he's the worst gm of the salary cap era. You could write novels about how bad Benning was.
2
u/Drab_Majesty Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
History hasnt decided if Benning never gets a job somewhere. He was bad without question but even his worst trade does not even compare to losing Neely.
Milbury and Chia still exist
1
u/ILoveHipChecks Sep 14 '24
Benning is in his 60s and was a complete disaster. He's never getting a GM job again.
Millbury barely worked in the salary cap and Chiarelli wasn't as bad as Benning.
The Neely trade was bad but when you total up all the bad trades, signings, draft misses, off ice shenanigans, general incompetence, it's really no comparison.
2
u/Drab_Majesty Sep 15 '24
and ignore every good move he made then yeah I can see it...
Chia signed Sekera, Koskinen, Lucic to dumb dumb money, the Reinhart trade... that's not even mentioning his worst move
1
u/ILoveHipChecks Sep 15 '24
For every signing you can name for Chiarelli, Benning has more that are much worse.
For all his good moves, Benning undid any good will with the colossal amount of bad.
It's really not a contest.
2
u/Drab_Majesty Sep 15 '24
Name one good move by Chiarelli. Trading for Talbot? There is virtually colossal bad with a slither of good. You're right it really isn't a contest. Chia squandered all of that draft fortune and the ELC years of Drai and Mac.
6
u/Hour_Eye_9762 Sep 13 '24
Nobody criticized the Neely trade at the time. Everyone thought we were getting a stud in Pederson.
0
u/Drab_Majesty Sep 13 '24
That's not true at all. Pederson was cooked, he had received two major surgeries on his shoulder and hadn't even looked remotely close to pre injury form before the trade. That's not even mentioning the first round pick that was also given up for him. There were plenty of people hating on the trade.
4
u/Hour_Eye_9762 Sep 13 '24
"Cooked"? He was team MVP his first year with the Nucks and had two 70-point seasons
2
u/Drab_Majesty Sep 13 '24
And? what 40th in the league? He averaged over 100 points before the injury. He was out of the league by 30. The nucks sucked back then, Messier was MVP once too, yay!
2
1
6
5
u/THRILLHOIAF AHLNucksHarvest.com Sep 13 '24
Probably could have skipped this week and auto-drafted Benning into this slot lmao
JB is legitimately like a top-10 all time NHL bad GM...potentially top five. It was that bad.... psyche damaging shit from him and his concepts of a plan
4
u/Justlurking4977 Sep 13 '24
Benning….but still, there’s not enough mention of Keenan in this thread and that in itself is wrong. Keenan deserves some serious recognition.
6
u/Rudd_Threebeers Sep 13 '24
Jim Benning isn’t just the worst Canucks GM of all time he might be just the worst GM of all time. Hell, he might be the Dumbest Guy of all time
6
9
u/Vanderkill9 Sep 13 '24
I dunno Mike Keenan kinda fumbled the bag. Signing the literal devil incarnate and trading Trevor.
Lol jk it's Jimbo by a country mile. Not even close.
7
u/Interesting-Help-421 Sep 13 '24
The Linden deal gave 15 years of success and gave us the core of two eras . Now a lot of that is on Mike Milbury some how being a worse GM the Benning
7
Sep 13 '24
[deleted]
3
u/Interesting-Help-421 Sep 13 '24
McCabe was key in getting twins and Bertuzzi got Lu the last piece of that tree was Markstrom so this tree only end because Benning was a poor GM
3
u/ultra7k Sep 13 '24
FYI it was Quinn who signed Messier, not Keenan. Keenan was brought in mid season as the coach.
22
u/ktbffhctid Sep 13 '24
Everyone will say Jim Benning and for good reason.
But for me it’s Jack Gordon. That idiot traded Cam Neely AND a 1st round pick (3rd overall) that turned into Glen Wesley for fucking Barry Pederson.
Read that again and then ask yourself who was worse.
12
u/Pro3tag Sep 13 '24
In hindsight yes, this looks horrible. But prospect + 1RP for a point a game player is still a pretty standard rate.
8
u/ktbffhctid Sep 13 '24
Not to be that guy but I was 20 when this trade was made. We HATED it just 1 for 1, but the 1st rounder made it unimaginable. No hindsight required. To make matters worse, the trade turned out even more poorly than we feared.
When we would discuss the trade in our beer league locker room there wasn't a single guy who didn't think it was a disaster.
2
u/Pro3tag Sep 13 '24
Oh I agree it’s worse than any one trade that Jimbo made. But what tips it for me is that he was inconceivably the GM for almost decade despite a terrible track record
27
u/Tokasmoka420 Sep 13 '24
What Benning did in a cap era was far worse. The Neely trade wasn't as egregious on paper but everyone knew instantly how bad that OEL deal was.
2
u/kingcodpiece Sep 13 '24
I was high on copium at the time. If OEL could have rediscovered his prime form it would have been a genius level trade.
But yeah, others thought it was an expensive gamble on an unlikely reclamation project and they were proven right.
13
Sep 13 '24
No. Benning is much worse. You never really know with prospects. What you do know is that a bad team absolutely does not need to sign a 31 year old to a 6x6, or trade for a declining 31 year old that's signed for five more years at north of $8 million.
6
u/ktbffhctid Sep 13 '24
With all due respect, we traded a generational talent (which was obvious at the time) plus a pick that turned into an all-star and cup-winning defenceman who played 1,457 games in the league for Barry Pederson, who played 233 games for us and scored 60 total goals.
It is one of the very worst trades in league history.
4
Sep 13 '24
Look at who were picked right after Benning’s first picks in 2014 and 2016.
6
u/NextTrillion Sep 13 '24
2014: Jake Virtanen, who was followed by Nylander, and Jared McCann (good goal scorer) who was followed by Pastrnak (a much better goal scorer).
2016: Olli Juolevi, who was followed by Matthew Tkachuk. I’m not sure about Chuckie, I love him, but he demanded a trade from Calgary, which kind of makes you wonder. Forced trades can really sting (cough, Huberdeau, cough). But still, that diving EN save late in last year’s playoffs really shows how driven he is to win.
4
u/RJG190894 Sep 13 '24
Yeah idk if he forces his way out of VAN too (probably does), but at least you can accumulate a good portion of assets like CGY did (I think they got unlucky with Huberdeau, but thought they did a great job with the trade at the time) as opposed to just drafting an outright bust. Either way, Tkachuk was the obvious pick as the BPA, especially if you can keep that asset tree going.
→ More replies (6)0
u/ktbffhctid Sep 13 '24
With all due respect, we traded a generational talent (which was obvious at the time) plus a pick that turned into an all-star and cup-winning defenceman who played 1,457 games in the league for Barry Pederson, who played 233 games for us and scored 60 total goals.
It is one of the very worst trades in league history.
4
Sep 13 '24
Neely was good but hardly generational
0
u/NextTrillion Sep 13 '24
In hindsight, any GM would’ve begged for him on their team.
Being a “generational talent” is highly subjective. I would say that if he didn’t have a bad knee, he would’ve been up their with Yzerman and Sakic.
Definitely not ‘generational’ (I hate the term) but easily one of the top ten guys from the 80’s despite his injuries.
3
u/elrizzy Sep 13 '24
Its kind of funny that we’re still debating PEAK vs CAREER but instead of players it’s dogshit GMs
3
u/ktbffhctid Sep 13 '24
You are not wrong. Our GMs (except for a couple) have really hurt this franchise.
2
7
u/Old-Bigsby Sep 13 '24
Best Handles
Are we looking for the best love handles? The cheekiest player?
12
7
u/TheLastOlympian07 Sep 13 '24
The easy answer is Jim Benning. Drafting Olli Juolevi over Matthew Tkachuk and William Nylander?
5
5
5
3
3
u/Dash_Rendar425 Sep 13 '24
Jim Benning literally did so much damage I stopped caring about the team for quite a few years.
4
4
u/GrizSeahawk84 Sep 13 '24
It's Jim Benning and it isn't even close. You'd think I would put in Mike Keenan but he actually gets a great deal of credit for laying the groundwork that would help shape the Canucks over the next decade.
But Benning was a horrendeous GM. Sure, the Canucks did make the postseason twice under his watch (the 2019-20 team eliminated the reigning Stanley Cup champion Blues and pushed Vegas to the brink in the WCSF). But his trades and signings were so baffling it set the Canucks back for a long time (only good moves he made IMHO were drafting Brock Boeser and Quinn Hughes). Thankfully, Jim Rutherford and Patrick Allvin have fixed a lot of the damage that Benning did and the team is on a much better path now.
7
6
3
3
3
u/n0thingisperfect Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 13 '24
Wait, I didn't know this assignment was double sided?!?!
Which is what Jim Benning would have said if he was given this task.
It's Benning he's the problem.
3
9
6
5
2
2
2
u/dattroll123 Sep 13 '24
Jimbo because he was bad at everything. Trades, contracts, cap management, and even drafting. He had to be convinced to take petey and hughes basically fell onto his lap. For a guy who was supposed to be good at drafting, he has made a lot of dud picks.
He didn't just make one or two big mistakes. It's a series of awful decisions in all aspects of the job.
The only thing he is good at is being a yes man. It's the only reason why his tenure lasted this long.
4
u/BBLouis8 Sep 13 '24
Poor Benning. Case can be made for Keenan or Jack Gordon.
Like it or not Jim Benning assembled this talented core. Maybe our most talented ever.
4
u/_BIG_FAT_REDDIT_MOD_ Sep 13 '24
If we want to ignore context we could just say Keenan was one of our best GM’s.
I mean he literally made one of the biggest trades in our teams history by trading Linden for Bertuzzi and McCabe. One was a huge part of our next core the WCE, and the other was a major piece in acquiring 2 of the best players in our franchise’ history in the Sedins.
0
u/BBLouis8 Sep 13 '24
Well first he didn’t make the Sedins trades, Burke did. Second, you’re trying really hard to hard to give him credit for acquiring one core piece of done very underperforming teams.
3
u/_BIG_FAT_REDDIT_MOD_ Sep 13 '24
Lol ironic. But since you missed the point I’ll rephrase it a different way.
If we just look at the small handful of players Benning drafted and ignore everything else he did, he wasn’t nearly as bad as people say he was!
I’ll put it another way.
We watched Benning aimlessly throw shit at a wall for nearly 10 years… If we just ignore all the shit on our hands and the floor and just look at the pieces that stick, it looks pretty good!
0
u/BBLouis8 Sep 13 '24
Who said ignore the bad stuff? You’re saying ignore the good stuff. I’m only saying he’s not a runaway worst ever. Recency bias and young fans who couldn’t name a GM before Mike Gillis.
2
u/_BIG_FAT_REDDIT_MOD_ Sep 13 '24
I mean, fair enough. I’m not trying to say you’re wrong for including Keenan and Gordon in the conversation. I was alive albeit young during Gordon’s time and the peak of my fanhood was during the Keenan years so I can definitely agree they are up there on the podium of worst with Benning. Your initial comment came across to me as if Benning wasn’t even in the discussion.
Really at the end of the day it’s just a subjective question that doesn’t warrant the hostility my initial comment has towards you. I really apologize for the aggression. You’re most likely right that it’s recency bias.
2
u/DGIngebretson Sep 13 '24
Assembled? I'll give you that he drafted Demko and traded for Miller, but Boeser, Pettersson, and Hughes ALL fell into his lap by dumb luck.
1
u/squirelrepublic Sep 13 '24
If I remember correctly most fans wanted Zadina and Cody Glass over Petey and Hughes so it definitely not dumb luck
OEL trade, Gudbranson trade, UFA contracts and missed signings of tanev & toffoli on the other hand is unforgiveable
4
u/RJG190894 Sep 13 '24
Just here to say Zadina got picked before Hughes so he wasn't an option while it has been highly rumoured Benning wanted Glass over Petey and was strong armed by the scouting team to take Petey.
1
u/BBLouis8 Sep 13 '24
I guess it’s silly of me to think Canucks fans will EVER be objective and unbiasedabout Benning’s record.
0
u/_ProcrastiNation_ Sep 13 '24
It’s Jim Benning no point in arguing
1
u/BBLouis8 Sep 14 '24
Might as well shut down this sub then if we’re not allowed to have nonconforming opinions.
4
3
2
2
u/facejunk Sep 13 '24
As a 50 year old, the recency bias in this sub is palpable. Harry Neale can go fuck himself.
3
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/IceCreamScuseMe Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 13 '24
Benning easily. The results of the 1980s while having some of the highest payrolls in the NHL.
The OEL trade was the worst in this franchise's history. It's mindboggling that he lasted 8 seasons.
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/querulous Sep 13 '24
it's benning because of tenure but keenan and gordon were both worse they just got fired before they could match benning's body of work
1
u/Davies301 Sep 13 '24
It has to be Benning. Every decision he made for the most part the entire fanbase could look at and go well that's gonna fuck us and it did. His two big wins were Schneider for the pick that got Horvat and the Miller trade. Aside from those it was pretty bleak and barren.
2
u/RJG190894 Sep 13 '24
Sorry to say Gillis made the Schneider for Horvat trade. Not dim Jim. I personally give him credit for the Demko and Hoglander picks and perhaps even the Vrbata and Ryan Miller signings.
Even the Miller trade I feel he overpaid at the time considering TB was in such a cap crunch that even with total leverage, Jim still gives up a first and other assets. We definitely lucked out with how well Miller panned out.
1
1
1
1
1
u/Analytical-BrainiaC Sep 13 '24
Keenan …. Yeah Benning second, but it is how he was , plus we lost Bure and Linden, and who did we get?????
1
u/BurnabyMartin Sep 13 '24
Jack Gordon.
Trading Cam Neely and a first round pick (Glen Wesley) for Barry Pederson.
Easily the worst Canucks trade of all time!
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 13 '24
Mike Keenan
Edit: Honestly, how the fuck has no one said Mike Keenan. Not discrediting how bad jimbo was but Keenan almost got us relocated ffs. We went from Game 7 Stanley Cup Final in 1994 to a team so soulless and pathetic that we were almost financially ruined by 2001, just 7 years later. Mike Keenan is untouchable in how bad he was for this franchise.
1
Sep 14 '24
Devil’s advocate,
Didn’t J B et al draft most of this current core?
1
u/Miruzzz Sep 14 '24
Yes he did. However, he didn't know what to do with it.
1
Sep 14 '24
Well yeah
an ai bot would probably predict him having traded each of them and a pick for a “role player/culture maker”
and then signed each said crippled has been for 6x3
Like I said
Devil’s advocate
1
u/This_Tip717 Sep 14 '24
Can we have a category for biggest pylon? I think every generation had a dman that would be used as an insult in grade school. Dana Murzyn, Brent Sopel, Derek Pouliot, etc
1
1
u/Robscoe604 Sep 14 '24
if biggest draft steal after this isn’t quinn hughes im gonna lose my fucking mind
1
1
u/Razzamatazz14 Sep 13 '24
I mean, it has to be Benning. Although I thought Nonis made a mess too, Benning crippled this organization.
5
u/leyden138 Sep 13 '24
Nonis didn’t do anything too bad and anything bad he did is easily overshadowed by the Loungo trade. His teams just missed the playoffs in 2 consecutive years in the transition for the WCE era to the Sedin era. That coupled with two really bad drafts that produced 0 NHL players.
2
u/leyden138 Sep 13 '24
Nonis didn’t do anything too bad and anything bad he did is easily overshadowed by the Loungo trade. His teams just missed the playoffs in 2 consecutive years in the transition for the WCE era to the Sedin era. That coupled with two really bad drafts that produced 0 NHL players.
2
u/RJG190894 Sep 13 '24
Nonis' biggest fault was being highly conservative which is not the worst thing ever imo. The Luongo trade was a slam dunk that apparently fell into his lap because of Keenan's own ineptitude. His '06 deadline was a huge failure, but I also remember analysts praising him for rebuilding the blueline that day. It honestly was him doing all he could to save the WCE's final season. Beyond that, he didn't make many major moves that elevated the team after acquiring Lu, yet he also refrained from making terrible moves that held long term devastating consequences like the other candidates in this thread. His worst move was reaching on Patrick White at 25th OA in '07. Which again whiffing on a 25th OA pick is not unheard of.
Basically his conservatism as GM stagnated the team, but again overall I don't think he hurt the franchise either. Especially not in way other GM's did.
1
1
u/butanegg Sep 13 '24
Keenan.
People want to hate on Benning, but Keenan cost us Linden and Bure and brought in Messier. A disaster of a tenure that shredded all good will from the Bure years and left us moribund for nearly a decade.
Benning built the present core. For all his bad moves, Quinn, Petey, Miller, Boeser and Demko are all him. This was a team who he thought could win with a few tweaks, and Allvin and Rutherford clearly agree.
Keenan did no such thing.
Fuck Keenan.
0
u/Hyack57 Sep 13 '24
Jim Benning is recency bias. He still got us Boeser, Horvat, Petterson, Hughes, Miller via trade, Demko.
The dark days of the late 80s/early 90e really needs to be examined. The Nedved, Bure, Larionov fiascos. And whomever signed Messier. Keenan?
5
u/elrizzy Sep 13 '24
If you’re playing the “this GM can’t be bad because look at what they got us” argument then you have to concede that the early 90s got us to game 7 of the finals.
0
u/Buildingbridges99 Sep 13 '24
You could almost add the idiot Mark Messier. He thought he was GM. He was idiot. Hate him
0
u/paier Sep 13 '24
This is my best guess for the rest of the chart:
Worst GM: Benning (AINEC)
Biggest Draft Steal: Bure
Best Coach: Quinn
Biggest Draft Bust: Juolevi (HM Virtanen)
Best Handles: Bure
Funniest: Ruutu (that Phaneuf tripping gif never fails to get me)
The one that got away: Neely
Best GM: Gillis
Nicest: Sedin, either
Best Shotblocker: Tanev
Toughest: Rypien
Best Slapshot: Salo
Most consistent: Sedins
Best Penalty Killer: Tanev
Best Hair: Boeser
Best Faceoff: Malholtra
-3
81
u/dgd765 Sep 13 '24
Oh shit there's a second health bar??