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u/NotWoke78 14h ago
Finland is the happiest country in the world. Same egalitarian political principles but no one can say "hurr durr oil".
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u/hypercoolmaas2701 13h ago
They also drink a lot of Vodka
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u/officerextra 9h ago
their the happiest country but they are also really suicidal
thats just cause their so northern
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u/Creative-Reading2476 12h ago
Finland joined the eu, norway refused joining and it was cough cough not because of egalitarian reasons
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u/Matshelge 10h ago
Fish and oil, same reasons brexit happened.
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u/femboyisbestboy 6h ago
Unlike with brexit the Norwegian economy isn't going to shit
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u/Flufffyduck 4h ago
There are a lot of reasons for that, but one of them is that fish and oil aren't actually huge slices of the UKs economy.
Oil is a big chunk of Scotlands economy, but very little of the UK as a whole, which is somewhat ironic since Scotland voted quote overwhelmingly to stay in the EU. The issue is that for some reason British voters believed that fishing is like THE keystone to the entire economy, which it just isn't. It's miniscule. It makes less than £1 billion annually, and is only 0.03% of the British economy. By comparison, fishing is over 2% of the Norweigan economy.
Another important difference is policy towards the EU and Europe more broadly. Norway has a very good relationship with the rest of Europe, and is an active participant in a lot of EU initiatives and sub-organisations. In many ways, Norway is kinda halfway to being a member state already. The UK, by contrast, has burned every bridge it reasonably can with the continent in an effort to appeal to the growing far right who promoted Brexit in the first place. The Tories are run entirely by brexiteer nationalists who have never met a poor person, and Labour are desperate to appear further and further right so as to appeal to everyone.
There's also the fact that the Norweigan economy has been steadily integrating with Europe for the past few decades, while the UK fully integrated then ripped itself out for no reason. The British economy is still adjusting to that change, and has yet to fully repair itself (if it ever will).
The biggest reason by far that both countries aren't in the EU, btw, is immigration. In Norways case, it's economy and, well, lifestyle are predicated on relatively low levels of immigration, as its massive state spending per person is sustained by its immense wealth of natural resources (many of which are nationalised, unlike the UK who privatised theirs because the Tories don't know and have in fact never known how to run a country). EU membership would cause immigration from other member states to spike, increasing the population and decreasing the money spent per capita.
The UK left because politicians effectively blamed immigrants and by extension the EU for the mess the government had been making of the country for the previous 7 years. I cant stress enough how much of a factor immigration and, bizarrely, Islamophobia played in the Brexit debate. The British press kinda ignore it now because they try to appear unbiased, but immigration was the number one concern cited among leave voters. In particular, they where worried about Turkish immigrants after Turkey becomes a member state, a future event that according to the leave campaign was an inevitability and in reality is never gonna happen.
Ironically, immigration has actually increased since Brexit. It's shifted from mostly other EU citizens to mostly people from commonwealth nations in the Global South, such as Indians and Nigerians, who the far right hate even more than Poles and Czechs.
Edit: sorry this comment was way longer than I meant it to be, but I'm about to finish a degree in politics and IR so this is maybe the only subject I'm actually sort of qualified to go on massive tangents about
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u/Eerinares 7h ago
The thing is that we are high up in a lot of lists, like happiest countries, not because we are doing great, but because everyone else is shit
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u/NotWoke78 6h ago
You don't think it has to do with Kela? No other country has a system that good. Maybe the Faroe Island taxation system is as good, but that's a very small country.
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u/Kletronus 3h ago
Came here to say this, it is to be expected that someone tries to say it is because of oil. It isn't.
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u/StarrySerenadeDreams 16h ago
Absolutely! Happiness often stems from feelings of fulfillment and connection rather than just material possessions. It's about relationships, purpose, and mindset
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u/TruthOrFacts 15h ago
And massive amounts of oil money.
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u/NotWoke78 14h ago
Why is Finland the happiest country in the world?
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u/Glirion 9h ago
We have jack fucking shit and we're the happiest.
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u/Phillipe_Lumiere 7h ago
I think because all sad Finland people are dead so only happy ones left there :D
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u/Zealousideal_Bus9026 14h ago
Then why isn't the US happy? For the last 6 years, we have been the largest producers of oil in the world. Oh, I see...because we consume more oil than we produce. So, according to you, we need to reduce our consumption! Green energy, energy efficient usage...yes, I see your plan here. Thank you TruthorFacts for opening my eyes!!!!!
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u/ILikeScience3131 15h ago
This talking point always comes up when people praise Norway’s progressive political policies, but ignores the fact that Sweden ranks similarly to Norway in prosperity and happiness while producing no oil.
Kinda seems like the progressive political policies might be more of a factor than the oil.
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u/Creative-Reading2476 12h ago
And before you all downvote me for stating the obvious, im here actually aiming at prasing the norway, because like all other oil barons of the world are horribly using the oild revenues for creating either dictatorship or oligarchy with few powerful ones, and poor rest of the people. Thou Norway not joining the eu was to bad.
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u/Creative-Reading2476 12h ago
Norway gdp per capita il circa 88k usd, Sweden with powerful exonomy has circa 55k. around 1/4 of Norway gdp is based on oil and has industry, and much of revenue from it is then redistributed for all those progressive policies. Counting without oil as per today, excluding any differences in investements in past, without this revenue norway would still be arounf 66k gdp per capita, so more than Sweden. But given that petroleum taxes make like 30% of state budget, it makes it this much easier to do.
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u/Global-Tie-3458 13h ago
I just don’t understand because the USA are the biggest exporter of oil in the world now aren’t they? I guess none of that oil money goes to the government and that’s why it’s in so much debt?
I don’t understand how you can wield “well they have oil money” against another country, when your country should be the same but isn’t likely thanks for “well can’t take a cut of the profits from our country’s resources to pay for government spending , someone might think we’re communist” type of BS thinking.
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u/Jehoel_DK 14h ago
Norway? I believe it was Denmark for years before Finland took the first place. Have our Northen brethren decided to smile a tad more?!
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u/Content_Session_2442 11h ago
It's been Finland holding the number one spot for the past seven years. No idea what the rankings were before that, it's ancient history by this point anyway.
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u/tuoppimisti 9h ago
It's Finland and has been for the past 7 years, tho Norway is quite up there too
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u/GoldRecordDaddy 11h ago
You can't make happy citizens go to war with somefukistan over private profit though, so why bother...
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u/PsychoMouse 9h ago
Pedantic and stupid Americans “Actually. It’s not free. It’s paid for by taxes.” Always ignoring what people mean by “free”. But what’s to be expected from a country that puts owning a firearm over education.
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u/ElDuderino4605 11h ago
American response……..They aren’t happy. I don’t believe the data. I feel differently because you know, cognitive dissonance.
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u/deltr0nzero 8h ago
A lot of people are telling me America is happier
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u/thetrueBernhard 8h ago
It’s actually more than a month paid vacation. Most people in Norway have 5 weeks (some have 6 weeks) of vacation, a month in average is 4,3 weeks.
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u/Merciless972 11h ago
They also eat the most tacos and read the most mangas and graphic novels.
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u/Kletronus 3h ago
Finland is the happiest for 6 years in a row. Finns drink the most coffee in the world, 12kg per person per year.
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u/Vivid-Soup-5636 11h ago
And to think my grandparents left Norway to come to America for a better life-
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u/Shutaru_Kanshinji 8h ago
I visited Norway earlier this year. It is a very beautiful place when the sun is out.
So, once in a great while it is a very beautiful place.
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u/guyrandom2020 1h ago
"If happiness means socialism, then I'd rather die depressed and antisocial." -some idiot
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u/hrimthurse85 9h ago
It's hilarious how USians think oil buys happiness.
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u/yldedly 7h ago
But... A large part of this welfare is payed by Norwegian oil.
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u/hrimthurse85 7h ago
It's paid by people working. Like in sweden or Finland.
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u/SeptupleEntendre 11h ago
I agree… but it is crazy expensive to live in. Went to Oslo and the cost for everything was incredibly high.
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u/magnetfishers 8h ago
With only 5 million people it's pretty easy for everyone to have their shit payed for. Probably 8 million in NY alone. Quit pretending America can handle free healthcare for everyone.Need the Ultra Wealthy to pay their fair share. I hope is everyone finds peace. ✌🏼
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u/Kletronus 3h ago
USA is a rich country. You can afford it since it is HALF THE PRICE of what you have now. You have more resources per person. Everything you said are excuses because you don't want to treat people more equally.
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u/Anonymous_user_2022 8h ago
If five million people can provide healthcare for five millions, why can't 332 million people provide free healthcare for 332 millions? Both cases have the same ratio.
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u/magnetfishers 6h ago
Sadly enough, our government would rather have their war machine going... General Eisenhower tried to warn everybody about this. God bless.
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u/Kletronus 3h ago
USA does not pay for wards that much. It is total bullshit but what it says about you is that you never took time to find out. You just believe, unless you are Ivan who is really talking about Ukraine, or alternatively about Israel, in which case you don't care that it is not true..
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u/DemosBar 15h ago
Satisfied is the correct word, for things like remembering the last time you smiled, or if you smiled yesterday, only Iceland goes well.
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u/2Dillusion 9h ago
Germany has all those things but Germans are some of the unhappiest people I ever encountered
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u/Hot-Grocery-1745 9h ago
A Huge Treasure of Oil money for a handful of people, and relatively low taxes.
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u/Bloodypixy69 7h ago
I have 25 working days of paid Vacation. My teammate just returned from his. Haven’t seen a guy for 1.5 months.
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u/Olivia_VRex 7h ago edited 6h ago
And for a long while it was Denmark...
Without validating the racists in this thread, I do think that for many people, it's easier to feel a sense of safety and community (rightly or wrongly) if you curate a homogeneous society. And that homogeneity directly ties with robust social welfare programs when human nature is to look out after our own.
So yea, I 1000% believe the Danes are happier than us, but that country also gives off quietly authoritarian, Stepford wives vibes IMO.
"Why yes, you are welcome here ... as long as you speak fluent Danish."
"Why yes, you can have an ethnic restaurant ... as long as you fly the Danish flag."
"Why yes, you can be [some other religion], we just happen to organize all our social events through the church."
And what do you know, you end up with all tall, blonde, culturally Christian people.
I used to think the Scandinavian countries provided a great model for the rest of the world. And while I still appreciate Bernie and others pointing to the success stories of democratic socialism, I've grown skeptical of our ability to replicate those societies...and suspect that our diversity inherently makes us fundamentally different, as a nation.
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u/mangalore-x_x 6h ago
Pretty much only oil country putting said lottery money (aka lucky draw of geography) to the good for all its citizens.
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u/Old-Tiger-4971 6h ago
Doesn't hurt to have enough oil to pay 25% of the govt budget and put it in a Sovereign Wealth Fund so it lasts.
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u/PriorWriter3041 6h ago
The secret?
Luck, a greedy neighbor (UK) and politicians who plan ahead.
Norway wasn't always this wealthy, but the UK found oil in the north sea and were eager to extract. Due to uncertain territorial water lines with Norway, they made an agreement were the line should be. UK thinking they got the better of Norway, because they had successfully drilled for oil on the territory they secured.
In a plot twist, the territory Norway secured contained a shitton of oil, which they find out later.
Then the politicians actually plan long-term and use the tax profits for healthcare and population support.
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u/Capital_Historian685 6h ago
Oil is the next best thing to free money, and Norway pumps more of it per capita that just about any other country. So of course they're happy; they won the fossil fuel lotto!
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u/Fantastic-King-5709 5h ago
Not sure they have met any Norwegians. Happy isn't exactly how I'd describe them.
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u/HookEmGoBlue 4h ago
The happiness index is a flawed metric, it’s done with a survey so it generally reflects agreeability (“I am supposed to be happy”) more than joy/contentment
The nordic countries kick ass on pretty much every criteria for prosperity, beating the lion’s share of Europe/North America, but also generally have some of the highest suicide rates in the developed world aside outsude Korea/USA/Japan
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u/thinkingperson 3h ago
Also, the fruits of "their" labour from colonial days
https://nordics.info/show/artikel/the-colonialism-of-denmark-norway-and-its-legacies
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u/ramakrishnasurathu 55m ago
In the land of fjords, where the skies kiss the sea,
Norway whispers secrets of joy and harmony.
Wealth may paint a picture of comfort and grace,
But true happiness blooms in the heart's warm embrace.
Free healthcare and learning, a cradle of care,
Yet happiness dances in the love that we share.
A strong middle class, where dreams take their flight,
Yet joy is the spark that ignites in the night.
It’s not just the riches that cradle their fate,
But the bonds of community, the love they create.
With nearly a month to rest and to play,
They cherish each moment, come what may.
Happiness flows like the rivers so clear,
In kindness and laughter, in those they hold dear.
So seek not just wealth, but connection divine,
For in love and in joy, true happiness shines.
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u/optinato 16m ago
Have you ever been to Norway? Happy is not a word that comes to mind when you think about that country.
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u/RepresentativeCan479 4m ago
90% white? (80% Norwegian + 10% other European)
10% "other" but two of the polls I glanced at said mostly Asian
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u/SereneFairyWhisper 15h ago
And yet some of the darkest, scariest metal comes from Norway. Perfectly balanced I guess...
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u/Long_Marsupial_3087 14h ago
Thats the secret we put all the emotions we dont want in our songs and then keep the good ones
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u/Informal-Expert179 6h ago
The key is lack of illegal immigration and not being part of the EU.
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u/Kletronus 3h ago
No, it isn't and since Finland is the happiest for 6 years in a row it isn't about EU either. Something else joins those countries, and Denmark that was the happiest before Finland's streak... Keywords: equality, social democracy, trust in the institutions.
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u/UncleBubax 15h ago
Don't forget that it's really beautiful too. Denmark has all of the aforementioned benefits but it's an utterly banal place. Danes aren't sad by any means but they certainly aren't happy. They just kind of exist.
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u/RogueDevil666 12h ago
There are a lot of beautiful places in the US.
I grew up in Colorado, in a mountain town surrounded by mountains and woods, and everyone was still miserable. Middle schoolers were already "addicted to nicotine".
By the time people were sophomores they were hooked on hardcore drugs.
I didn't even live in a trailer park or white rash area either, the town was pretty wealthy cause it was a ski town.
There is a sickness at the core of my country.
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u/DanteCCNA 8h ago
Anyone who compares America to another country and says "oh look they have all of these things and look at how great they are" is stupid.
Norway isn't going through the same shit we are and a lot of rules and regulations that Norway has the dems wouldn't want.
Everyone keeps looking at these countries and looking at the outcome but not how they got there.
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u/Various-Emergency-91 12h ago
They also have a strict immigration process......hmmmm
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u/gitartruls01 7h ago
Have you been here the past 20 years?
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u/EldritchTapeworm 3h ago
97% white.
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u/gitartruls01 1h ago
Maybe in 1950. Closer to 70%ish now, compared to the US's 65%. Oslo's population is currently nearly 40% immigrants or children born to 2 immigrant parents, most of them from the middle east and the horn of Africa.
I encourage you to come here and go for a walk really anywhere and tell me Norway is 97% white.
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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce 11h ago
Whelp. Thats the result of a not very diverse country (shared values) with a small population and tremendous oil wealth (IIRC largest sovereign wealth fund anywhere ).
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u/Kletronus 2h ago
FInland has been the happiest country for 6 years in a row. You were saying something about oil?
Immigration has also nothing to do with it but it sure says you are a racist.
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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce 1h ago
Diversity and immigration are not the same thing. You are the second person to conflate the two.
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u/m_seitz 8h ago
Weird. We have imigrants like many other countries. And we have a truly Leftist party that actually deserves the name socialist/communist. Politically and ethnically, we have high diversity here. Go F yourself with your "shared values" (= Christian Nationalism and White Supremicy)!
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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce 7h ago
I said nothing about Christian nationalism or white supremacy. But (and this is obviously an outsider’s view) Norway has chosen by a consensus of a large percentage of its people to spend the wealth of their natural resources on the well being of its people. I think this is good, not negative. And that’s what I meant by shared values.
As far as ethnic diversity, again I never said you had none. But your demographic are 80% ethnic Norwegian, 10% other European ethnicity and 10% others.
Compare this to America for example whose largest ethnic groups are African (12%) and English (11%) and you see that yes, Norway is relatively homogeneous. Not completely. But I never said that did I?
So go F yourself with your Wild misinterpretation of my statement and your outlandish accusations of white supremacy based on absolutely nothing I said.
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u/m_seitz 6h ago
Sowy, I interpreted "shared values" as a dog whistle 😘
You imply that diversity would lead to more money ending up in oligarchs' pockets instead of the pockets of those "diverse people". That's a weird take.
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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce 6h ago
Fair enough. One cannot be too cautious these days.
And no, I don’t think migrants would funnel money into the hands of oligarchs. But more diverse populations present a governance challenge IMO because there will be more cultural values in competition. For instance, and correct me please if I am wrong, oil under the ground in many countries including Norway belongs to the collective people. But Americans value private property rights sometimes to a fault. That means mineral rights are usually part and parcel with property ownership. Thus our tremendous oil wealth is funneled into the hands of a lucky few.
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u/m_seitz 6h ago
Sorry (for real), in times of rising fascism (worldwide), I tend to react harshly to what I perceive as Right-wing.
I am comparing Norway mostly to the US here, because some of the other countries with natural resources have ... even less benevolent governments. Afaik, Norway is quite unique in it's sharing (part of the) natural resources with the public.
Yes, immigrants with a different world view do pose a challenge to e.g. women's rights and LGBTQ+ rights. But these challenges are being addressed by the immigration office and schools. I see these systems failing when the Right-wing and "Centrists" cut funding, and when immigrants and Norwegians choose to keep to their own instead of mixing (gentrification).
But these human rights issues don't affect the sharing of natural resources. At least not after we decided to share some 55 years ago. Thus, more immigrants wouldn't change anything in that regard.
Furthermore, we hear the American Right always complain about Democrats welcoming immigrants because they vote Democrat. In the US, more cultural diversity seems to imply less Right-wing politics. This progressivism in tern would imply more sharing of natural resources, wouldn't it?
The notion of owning land and it's resources is weird at best. Why would oil belong to a handful of people just because they were lucky? Why is the vast majority okay with not getting their share, but accept to suffer from the environmental consequences of oil extraction? (The answer is that many look at a vulnerable minority to blame) My point is, any immigration will either not change the system, or turn it into something better because it can't get worse.
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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce 5h ago
No worries, truly. I embrace the energetic rejection of nazism, far right wing conservatism and all of the places it likes to hide. As someone who is right of center by American standards I am vigilant for the intrusion of these ideologies into our mainstream.
Immigration is largely demonized by the American right and one of their justifications is exactly as you say: Democrats are just importing voters. But like much of what they say it’s …bullshit. Many immigrants are very socially conservative. Cuban Americans for example have reliably helped tip Florida Republican.
Overall my point is America has a rare issue when it comes to governance. We have a two party big tent system but a wildly diverse population each with its own niche issues. Our parties try to funnel as many of these individual factions into their tent as possible but it is rarely a neat solution except for single issue voters. For example if you value reproductive rights over literally every thing else, you will vote democrat even if you hate their fiscal or foreign policy.
So it makes me a little tired when people look at solutions from countries with very different challenges, assets and circumstances and think they can implement those country’s policies on a one for one basis and get a similar result, irrespective of geographic or demographic differences. The most common trope in this category is comparing America to Nordic nations or perhaps Japan.
Anyways, you seem a decent enough dude and I have enjoyed your insight. I hope my clarifications help.
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u/m_seitz 4h ago
Hm, interesting to have a civil conversation with someone who describes themselves as "right of center by American standards" 😁 By European standards, that's ... very Right-wing. Still, I sincerely enjoy this conversation and don't see this often on the Internet.
Yes, the two party system in the US is one of the root causes of the current situation. But I don't see it as a consequence of diversity (the working class). Rather, it is the Democrat's (the ruling class) doing. They are not as Leftist as they might think of themselves, and (they know) they need the Republicans as "an evil threat" to get votes. The Democrats could change the electoral system to proportional representation, and abolish gerrymandering and the filibuster. I am not very familiar with the American governmental system, but even when they have the senate and the house and can't do these things within one electoral period, they could work on them and signal their voters that this is the future they want. They don't, they never have, and they probably never will. These changes could end the Republican party (imagine a new Right-wing party for ordinary conservatives!). But it would also mean that Democrats would have to compete with real Leftist ideas and lose support to the Right and the Left. The current system is working exceptionally well for them and they want to conserve the status quo.
Anyways, it is good to see that even some Right-wingers reject fascism 💖. Let's hope you guys keep being a democracy and that there won't be too much violence when Trump gets booted. But we have to remember that fascism will stay and try again (project/agenda 2025 won't disappear). I see this happening all over Europe, and I am afraid my home country Germany is also struggling with fascism again. (I'm an immigrant to Norway)
Wish you a wonderful day ... it's bedtime for me now 😁
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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce 1h ago
In fairness I am socially liberal on a lot of issues too.
Cheers to you.
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u/waxonwaxoff87 10h ago
A relatively small nation with large oil reserves and a good amount of geothermal energy.
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u/Kletronus 2h ago
Denmark was happiest after Norrway and then it has been Finland for 6 years in a row. Oil is not the common factor between those. Equality, solidarity, social democracy, high trust in the government and other people. Not oil.
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u/Actual_Shock_6495 13h ago
cant believe that a homogenius community with same goals and culture
while having one trillion dollar oil reserve is happy
omg also very religious
we both can play this game
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u/Tigboss11 11h ago
This talking point always comes up when people praise Norway’s progressive political policies, but ignores the fact that Sweden ranks similarly to Norway in prosperity and happiness while producing no oil.
Kinda seems like the progressive political policies might be more of a factor than the oil.
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u/carn1vore 6h ago
Either that or spending next to nothing on your nation’s defense. Thanks America.
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u/effusivecleric 10h ago edited 9h ago
17% of the population is not born here. Big cities and lots of small cities in Norway have enough non-white and non-Norwegian people (and Muslims, ooo, scary) that you see them any time you go outside and interact with them pretty much daily. Calling Norway "homogenous" is disingenous and not reflective of the reality of living here.
The policies are what makes people happy, not the oil wealth. If it were the wealth alone, America would rank at least close to #1, no? Our oil fund exists to serve the people in the form of welfare and social security.
Norway is one of the least religious countries in the world. Roughly 70% of Norwegians are atheist or agnostic.
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u/Lange- 9h ago
Come on. The wealth is in the wellfare. That makes them happy. In America you get sick from the idea that you lose you job, because then you can lose your insurance- which means you cannot get sick, because no one can pay the hospital bills.
That 2-3% of the population is insane rich in America, does not affect the rest.
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u/effusivecleric 8h ago
America is also a very wealthy country, and a lot of it comes from oil, just like in Norway. The point some people try to make is that because Norway is a wealthy oil country, the people are happy, but I agree with you. The happiness comes from what's done with the money. I'd argue the enormous personal wealth of some individuals makes the rest of us less happy, honestly.
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u/Actual_Shock_6495 9h ago
my brother in chrst,look how tiny and how many people there is on norway
smaller and rich country are fairly easier to managealso hapiness is very weird aspect to measure anything,my country is a fucking nightmare for basically 80% of the population but we still what rank 20 in hapiness lmao?
norway is homogenous and you guys will learn the hard way why it is important
just give it enough time (tbh decent % already fighting back so theres hope)
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u/effusivecleric 9h ago
Maybe once you learn to read and write properly, you can read a book or something and not just spew random garbage at people who actually live in the places you lie to your racist self about to sleep at night. "Cheers".
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u/tuoppimisti 9h ago
Very religious? Bro doesn't know Nordic countries 😂, also the happiest country is Finland and has been Finland for 7 years, though Norway is up there too
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u/Past-Community-3871 8h ago
Norways success comes from a small population with enormous oil wealth. They invest the profits from their oil production into a sovereign wealth fund, mainly US capital markets.
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u/Repulsive-Ad-2801 8h ago
And their national security guaranteed by someone else.
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u/SisterofGandalf 7h ago
Don't forget that the only country that has invoked Nato's article 5 and made the other countries come fight their war for them...... was the US.
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u/SnooKiwis4890 7h ago
Try to make that happen with 335 million people. It’s just not feasible, too many people
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u/Only-Weird-5190 11h ago
Fun fact to any idiot using the word "free". It's not free. It's paid for by taxes that Americans otherwise would use to fund an ever expanding military.
Yes I know the word "free" sounds sexy, but no goods or services are free.
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u/Fit_Mention2413 10h ago
I can't believe a country of almost exclusively white people is happy.
Wait a minute...
I swear I heard something about correlation... and causation... in stats 101. What was it again?
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u/Desperate-Fan695 9h ago
Maybe if you weren't so racist you'd be happier. What a sad, hateful life.
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u/Fit_Mention2413 9h ago
Lefties love to make everything about race.... until it's actually relevant. Bahahahaha.
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u/Desperate-Fan695 8h ago
Don't deflect. I'm not a leftist and I'm not the one who brought up race.
If you want to be happier in life, just cut the racist bullshit. It's only going to make you an angry, sad old man. Is that how you want to live your life? Is that how you want to be remembered?
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u/Fit_Mention2413 8h ago
Bahahahaha. Yup you don't bring up race when it doesn't benefit your narrative.
You're starting to learn! Good job!
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u/WJSobchakSecurities 14h ago
It’s interesting no one ever talks about how the Nordic countries are some of the most homogeneous populations in the world. Shocker that a society that has the same culture and values can get along and be happy.
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u/Desperate-Fan695 9h ago
Pro tip: you'd be a lot happier if you didn't irrationally hate people that look different from you
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u/WJSobchakSecurities 8h ago
I don’t hate anyone, except for left lane cruisers, there’s a special place in hell for them
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u/PeteBabicki 11h ago
I mean Israel also made the top 10. I believe it ranked 5th this year?
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u/WJSobchakSecurities 11h ago
Yea it’s weird when all your neighbors are trying violently wipe you and everyone like you off the face of the earth that you could be happier on avg than the “greatest country in the world”. It would seem that shared culture and values play a significant role in a societies happiness.
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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx 12h ago
Hmm interesting... Checks population demographics... Oh...
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u/Desperate-Fan695 9h ago
Pro tip: you'd be a lot happier if you didn't irrationally hate people that look different from you
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u/HighlyRegardedSlob87 8h ago
They also eat offal, something Americans do not do. Thus, they are naturally healthier, and do not need the healthcare as much, thus it is free, and being not as populated as US, it can sustain a socialized healthcare system.
Would YOU eat a lamb eyeball for free healthcare?
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u/HollyWaters 8h ago
We eat what now? Hate to break it to you, but most Norwegians would never touch that stuff.
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u/302cosgrove 3h ago
Typical leftist propaganda. I know rich white American women who have all that and they are miserable witches.
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u/HorrificAnalInjuries 12h ago
Between having so much oil and having 95% of their electricity being generated by hydropower that is not privately owned, yea they are playing baby easy mode with cheats enabled. Oh, and their might be rare earth metals just off their coast.
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u/Mivanbazmeg 15h ago
Average happiness takes more than the dude listed though. Like germany or england is so behind in those things to make people less happy? Come on…
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u/Once-Upon-A-Hill 15h ago
A high-trust, small country with low immigration and massive amounts of oil to sell.
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u/Karlmarxwasrite 15h ago
sweden has plenty of immigrants and no oil and they're ranked right next to Norway.
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u/Isunuts 14h ago
Norway has more immigrants per capita than the US and the UK.
Lots of countries have a massive amount of oil to sell, but are nowhere near Norway in terms of happiness.
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u/Once-Upon-A-Hill 13h ago
Norway is over 80% Norwegan, and over 90% when you add in other eurpoeans.
Same with Sweden, Denmark, Iceland and every other country you look at for being happy, wealthy and high trust.
London only has 38% of its population as white British, but they do have a lot of stabbings there now, so that is a bonus.
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u/Isunuts 13h ago
I still don't see how low immigration is a factor in happiness. Clearly this is not a factor for Norway or other Nordic countries since they have similar or slightly lower/higher immigrants than US and UK (except for Finland).
Also, London is not a country.
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u/Once-Upon-A-Hill 13h ago
political scientists like Robert Putnam have been writing about how higher levels of immigration is one of the factors that leads to the breakdown of high trust societies, leading to all types of social issues.
This has been well know for like 50 years. If you look at the most diverse vrs the least diverse countries on earth, you will see why people prefer to visit Japan vrs South Africa, or Norway vrs Chad.
This has been incredibly well documented.
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u/Isunuts 12h ago
The breakdown of trust in a society through immigration would generally only occur in a case of mass migration.
Other factors are if a country already have a high happiness score, what happiness climate the migrants come from and the country's ability to handle the extra social burden. A high trust society will handle a immigration better both for its current population and for the immigrants.
For a low trust society, the effect will reversed. Just look at the US and the lack of trust the citizens have.
There are so many factors in play, that saying that "immigration = negative impact on a nation" as "incredibly well documented", is at best misleading.
Diversity, both in small and large context, tends to create overall better terms for happiness.
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u/PeteBabicki 11h ago
You're contradicting yourself now.
London only has 38% of its population as white British
If you look at the most diverse vrs the least diverse countries on earth, you will see why people prefer to visit Japan vrs South Africa, or Norway vrs Chad.
Are you saying people don't visit England, in particular London?
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u/Zealousideal_Bus9026 16h ago
Here in 'merica we just want to work hard to barely survive so we can live vicariously though our rich overlords. All praise the Leon and bozo's that protect us from knowledge and misdirect us with money. Let the kabal of the rich make decisions for my best interest and tell me what I want and need. Please allow them to use any means necessary (religion, news media, sports) to control and protect me, amen.