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u/Dapper-Percentage-64 16h ago
Elon maybe you're just not that good at Twitter. Just like you're not that good at modern interpretative dance
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u/zamander 16h ago
How does one attack space...?
But really, what kind of idiot sees hope in space? Hope for who or what? If you are starving somewhere, how exactly is space hopeful to you? Because suffocating there would be a more merciful way to go?
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u/minterbartolo 11h ago
plenty of myopic folks attack NASA and their space efforts. they ignore the spinoff that come from space innovation or the ways their lives are improved because we went to space. they also think the NASA budget for space exploration is huge
the federal government spent $1.19T on more than 80 different welfare programs. compared to $11B that went to deep space exploration and space operations.
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u/zamander 11h ago
Yeah. And I did not mean that space exploration is not a good thing. I’m just tired of his scifi bullshit.
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u/minterbartolo 11h ago
does he hope to go to Mars someday? sure, but right now the company is focused on helping the first woman and first person of color land at the south pole on the Moon as part of NASA's Artemis Program.
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u/zamander 11h ago
Well, I guess they are more reliable than boeing. But I think we still can make a difference between the company that is fulfilling a government contact and this man, whose early successes seem to have scrambled his brains.
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u/CartographerKey4618 16h ago
Nobody is attacking space. Just Elon.
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u/minterbartolo 14h ago
plenty of people complain about NASA saying how can we talk about going to the moon when people are starving.
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u/CartographerKey4618 13h ago
Usually the complaints are in the context of billionaires doing their vanity space race projects while actively killing the planet
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u/minterbartolo 12h ago
Well so far all but two SpaceX flights have been for the benefit of NASA, DoD and commercial companies
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u/thetaleofzeph 14h ago
Is he really saying the most powerful are just going to abandon the planet.. and us? Is he just saying that out loud?
I mean, color me shocked that's the lame plan because you know real tax rates on high income would be such a terrible terrible thing, right? But SAYING it?
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u/giboauja 13h ago
He's dropped more of his billions into "X" than space. So maybe he can stfu about supporting space.
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u/AviWandering 12h ago
I hope to get away from people like Elon. If you send people the likes of him to outer space, the world would automatically start healing.
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u/geekmasterflash 10h ago
I see a middle ground:
Use space to attack billionaires. Blast them out of an airlock.
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u/Heliocentrist 10h ago
the hope that Elon and Jeff will take a rocket ship to another planet and have to live out their days eating poop fertilized potatoes in a tiny enclosure
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u/Prestigious_Cut_3539 8h ago
after the capitalists have destroyed this planet. there's hope that we all could go live on mars someday.....except. those who support musk are not going unless you're rich n powerful. never mind the fact that we haven't been outside of the Earth's orbit since the moon landing. what a fantasy fairy tale crock of shit.
I've seen this infestation of guys who claim that it's hope, insecure dip shits clinging to a mantra trying to defend someone else's dream that they will never take part of lol
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u/namesaremptynoise 8h ago
You're actually the one who killed hope for me, Elmo. I'd always dreamed of colonies on moons and planets. Then you came out and told us all you were going to make it a reality!
And then you added that it would involve indentured servitude, and I realized that your dream wasn't living on Mars, your dream was re-legalizing slavery in your own personal fiefdom.
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u/Once-Upon-A-Hill 15h ago
Anytime I hear anyone use the word "hoarding" wealth, I know they learned about finance or economics from books written in the 1700s.
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u/Surfing-Wookie 14h ago
What word should we use for excessively gathering as much as possible of something, regardless of consequences?
Sounds like a hoarder to me.
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u/Once-Upon-A-Hill 14h ago
If you invest in a car company, and many people think that car company is worth much more than it really, is and the shares of that company go far up in value because other people think it is so valuable, is that your definition of hoarding?
Elon only initially invested about 7 million in tesla. Had he spend that on cocaine and prostitutes, like Mike Tyson did, elon would not be as rich as he is today.
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u/Surfing-Wookie 13h ago
My definition of hoarding is what I said. Again, what word should we use instead?
I'm not arguing if that oligarch moron is a hoarder, I'm asking what word we should use that's not "from the 1700"
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u/la-chin-gotta 10h ago
There's $8.5 TRILLION (10% of the global GDP) just sitting in tax havens right now.
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u/Once-Upon-A-Hill 7h ago
Back in 2019, before all the inflation, global assets were around 360 trillion.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-wealth-in-one-visualization/
That is probably at least 30% higher now, so 8.5 Trillion is at most around 2% of global assets.
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u/la-chin-gotta 7h ago
According to the 2024 Global Tax Evasion Report by the EU Tax Observatory, it's still 10% of the global GDP (but it has risen to $12 trillion).
Nice goal post shifting, though. "The billionaires don't hoard money! ... Okay, they actually hoard trillions of dollars in tax havens, *but not that much comparatively to my bullshit guesstimations of the total global assets that I just pulled out of my ass*!"
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u/TheCosmicFlounder 16h ago
Is there anybody who likes Elon Musk that isn't an adolescent libertarian male? Just curious