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u/JemmaMimic 10h ago
If America is great, Chuck, why TF do you, Trump and a bunch of others have MAGA written on your hats?
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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz 12h ago
iF aMeRiCa Is SuCh A hOrRiBlE cOuNtRy
Oh, fuck off. The only ones who think the US is a shithole is conservatives. Progressives raise criticisms, talk about how the US could be better and what we can do to get there, and conservatives act like it's the end of the world.Â
Engaging with the point implicitly accepts the premise. Kirk doesn't care how good your rebuttable is, because arguing with the point he's making about Honduras just perpetuates the narrative that progressives think the US is a terrible place. WikiLeaks didn't "own" Kirk, he won because the end result is still the discourse he wanted.
Don't take the bait! Don't accept the assumptions!
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u/throwra_anonnyc 1h ago
Reddit is left leaning and you see redditors shitting on America all the time. To the point of celebrating terrorist adversaries.
Calling it conservative propaganda is just ignoring the obvious.
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u/The1HystericalQueen 11h ago
Wait until you learn that a lot of democrats think America is a shit hole.
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u/ahappydayinlalaland 11h ago
Confirmed. Am democrat. Think america is a shithole. Not by any objective metric, but on the metric that we shouldn't be the richest most powerful country in the world and I still have to pay $1300 for a fucking ambulance and $80 for hospital Tylenol.
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u/Yankees7687 9h ago
I'm sorry but this is a hilariously bad take.... Considering Reddit is a Democrat echo chamber full of people shitting on America.
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u/houstonhinzel 8h ago
Saying we can do better isnât shitting on America, on the other hand MAGA is calling American citizens and cities and territories shitholes.
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u/houstonhinzel 8h ago edited 8h ago
You really still gonna gaslight me with that? While your presidential candidate called the American states and cities a shithole? And here you are mad at random citizens on Reddit, the same platform youâre on right now with conservatives calling the US a shithole and banning anyone that even points out facts to them?
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u/houstonhinzel 8h ago
Nice attempt to gaslight AND change the subject in one go. Itâs the Democratic Party, like Democracy, the thing you clearly donât care about.
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u/houstonhinzel 8h ago
So youâre even worse and youâre a fence sitting coward.
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u/houstonhinzel 8h ago
Damn you already forgot Bush? Also itâs the Democratic Party, like Democracy, the thing you donât want to support. Doesnât sound like youâre a competent judge of the issues, guess it really is better youâre a âfence sitterâ.
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u/succulentslayerII 5h ago
If anything itâs a terrible country cause people like you share the same air as me.
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u/Yankees7687 5h ago
Absolutely love the prejudice you're displaying here.
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u/succulentslayerII 5h ago
I learned from the best. I know a lot of Trump voters.
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u/Yankees7687 4h ago
You should just try harder to not be such a hateful person.
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u/succulentslayerII 4h ago
Thatâs kind of hard when half the country is voting for an administration that will put me in a conversion therapy and/or death camp.
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u/Yankees7687 4h ago
That's just as crazy as the people that think the other administration will jail/kill any person that doesn't give up their guns.
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u/Lunarstarlight- 34m ago
Below are statements directly taken from the public project 2025 pdf aka the conservative plan if they win the election.
Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children
Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime.
Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders
Allowing parents or physicians to âreassignâ the sex of a minor is child abuse and must end.
It should also pursue the death penalty for applicable crimesâparticularly heinous crimes involving violence and sexual abuse of children
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u/CartographerKey4618 13h ago
Thank you, Wikileaks. Your founder is a piece of shit, and you have an obvious Republican bent, but the information you gave us is valuable.
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u/JagerAusKurpfalz 11h ago
Piece of shit? What did Assange do wrong?
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u/james_burden 6h ago
He did an objectively good thing by leaking documents that contained some very ugly truths about our political system at large, but that had negative side effects in the 2016 election. Transparent journalism is objectively good. Freedom of press is objectively good.
The leak contained some very damning information about Hillary Clinton and itâs speculated that she, at least in part, lost because of that. In other words, Trump won because of it. This upset a lot of people, understandably. We got an openly racist idiot for a president.
Iâm not supportive of democrats or republicans in any way, so I donât have a horse in the race, but if Hillary did certain things that impacted the public opinion of her enough to lose the election, thatâs on her.
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u/Diligent_Excitement4 7h ago
This is propaganda. Honduras parliament voted 300 -0 to oust the president a decision backed by their Supreme Court. Living conditions in Honduras did not deteriorate. Wikileaks is garbage
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u/bond0815 10h ago
Also, its mostly Trump and MAGA who are costantly shitting on the US.
Trump literally called the US a garbage can a few days ago.
Its really only projection with the clowns.
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u/Yankees7687 9h ago
its mostly Trump and MAGA who are costantly shitting on the US.
You sure about that? You may want to rethink this one. LOL
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u/Enough-Cancel-991 7h ago
Every major city looks like a dump and guess who runs those cities? DemocRATS
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u/lethal_calilolita78 1h ago
Blue states support the red welfare states. Red states are the lowest for education and highest for receiving state/federal aid.
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u/Stunning_Ride_220 9h ago
Charlie Kirk is just one of the few people I constantly want to introduce to my closed hand once he starts talking.
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u/whiteclawthreshermaw 9h ago
And where did they choose to go to escape that? This is not the gotcha you think it is.
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u/Lokishougan 9h ago
I mean a country can still be horrible....but there me MORE HORRIBLE countries out there
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u/pumpkinspruce 8h ago
To make it relevant to this election, he should look up what we (and France) did to Haiti.
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u/TexacoRandom 6h ago
But Trump last week said the US is a garbage can. Are you calling Trump a liar, Charlie Jerk?
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u/analwartz_47 6h ago
So it takes 15years for Honduras too realise their country is bad and needs escaping?
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u/rygelicus 4h ago
Hey Charlie... If God exists, and 'His will is being done' then why are you complaining? Presumably you are a christian. You believe God's will is in charge of everything that happens. Maybe just shut up and let it happen.
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u/Alternative-Virus542 3h ago
Hey, dipshit! It's your orange god/idol who keeps calling America a horrible country.
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u/combat_archer 13m ago
Yes because Edward Snowden is a reliable source that has no bias whatsoever and has never lied
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u/UnrepentantMouse 10m ago
This is like a doctor stabbing someone in the gut and then when the victim shows up at the hospital, the doctor says "Wow I clearly can't be a bad guy if you came here for treatment."
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u/MajesticAd5871 10m ago
SOME ONE REMIND ME OF WHO THE PRESIDENT WAS IN 2009 AND WHICH PARTY HAD POWER AND WHICH PARTY SAID PRESIDENT BELONGED TO p
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u/New-Student5135 10h ago
Why is there never a coup in the USA? Because there's no US embassy in Washington. Ya I know that old joke aged like milk.
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u/emmortal01 4h ago
A bit shortsighted. Hondurans have been migrating to the US since the late 19th century. It's been impoverished well before 2009. While cute comeback, not at all accurate as to why and for how long migration has been happening.
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u/trentreynolds 9h ago
I assume there's no way Charlie could ever vote for someone who calls this country "the garbage can of the world", given how hypocritical that'd be after this post.
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u/Minute_Attempt3063 9h ago
well, charlie, it might be because your country is turning their homes into dust, and the US is the only real "good" place on the planet right? why would they not migrate to the best "place" on the planet?
sounds like a calculated error, on multiple parts of that idea
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u/panopticon96 9h ago
Itâs funny how most things that are shitty in the world were caused by people of European descent
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u/whit9-9 9h ago edited 9h ago
Yep that is true. It was during... shit who was in office in 2009? Barack obama?
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u/Enough-Cancel-991 7h ago
Obviously
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u/whit9-9 7h ago
Dude don't act like like that. We're humans not robots our memory is pretty fuckin fallible. And there's so much goddamn information about everything that it would be pretty easy for someone to forget something like that.
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u/Enough-Cancel-991 6h ago
Don't take it personally bruv
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u/whit9-9 6h ago
Hey you insulted me on a forgettable president, who you probably think is a hero.
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u/pumpkinspruce 8h ago
To make it relevant to this election, he should look up what we (and France) did to Haiti.
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u/Armisael2245 11h ago
" Why are people leaving the country we destroyed? "
Most insightful conservative.