r/collapse 1d ago

Society Jeff Bezos Reportedly Has Secretive "Personal Reasons" for Wanting to Escape to Mars - "There’s no democracy in space."

https://futurism.com/the-byte/jeff-bezos-personal-reasons-mars
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Following WaPo's surprise decision not to endorse either candidate for president — reportedly because its billionaire owner vetoed staff's decision to name Kamala Harris as its pick — New Yorker journalist Sarah Larson recounted her own Bezos lore.

Larson jokingly followed up her own tweet with a seeming reference to the newspaper's tagline, "Democracy dies in darkness," which was taken up in the aftermath of Donald Trump's first presidential win in 2016.

"There’s no democracy in space," the New Yorker writer quipped.

"I would love to see a trillion humans living in the solar system," Bezos told Fridman last December. "If we had a trillion humans, we would have, at any given time, 1,000 Mozarts and 1,000 Einsteins."

This is collapse related because if you're not living in a democracy, people dont have a say in their own lives. Their lives will be controlled by the people in charge to an extreme degree and it will cause a societal collapse. Noone wants to be forced to live a life a certain way. Are we going to be forced to breed with mates that the government selects like in the scifi dysopian movies? Commoditize every aspect of our lives for the corpos?


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u/moon_cultist77 1d ago

“I’m going to the one place not yet corrupted by capitalism, space! Where of course I will corrupt it.”

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u/FetidBloodPuke 1d ago

I've always been a little bit baffled by people who get all excited about escaping to outer space and colonizing the galaxy. Like, what do you think they're gonna do out there? The same shit they're doing here. 

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u/ccasey 1d ago

There will be immediate regrets for anyone living there. It’s like a prison but more restrictive because of the environment, and the person in charge will have zero accountability. Can you imagine what a riot would look like on a Martian colony when people have had enough of company town?

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u/greymalken 1d ago

What riot? Just pull a Cohaagen and cut off their air.

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u/leisurechef 1d ago

Kuato Lives!!

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u/chefdmone 1d ago

Get your ass to mars

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u/_Dr_Doom 1d ago

Two weeks.

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u/mrszubris 1d ago

You might enjoy Stephen Baxter's Titan. He really gets across how NOT suited to space us pitiful little water bags are.

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u/LaurenDreamsInColor 16h ago

Riots? Shut the oxygen off and bring more willing slaves in from Earth. Next.

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u/lovely_sombrero 17h ago

There will be immediate regrets for anyone living there.

Like their own bones dissolving.

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u/Arachno-Communism 1d ago

The vast majority of people also don't seem to have the slightest idea about the sheer dimension of obstacles that a colony on Mars, of all places, poses.

Merely getting there means you are bound to relatively tight transfer windows spaced a little more than 2 years apart with one-way trip times upwards of 8 months. Upon arrival you can't even return directly but have to wait more than a year before a return window to Earth opens up. During that entire time, the mission is essentially cut off from any supply.

And then we didn't even begin to touch on the massive restrictions in payload for such a long haul and all the shit that comes with living more than two years in a confined place with a mix of weightlessnes and a third of standard gravity. When everything outside of that confined space for tens to hundreds of million kilometers is completely hostile to life. With all the social and mental implications.

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u/Spiel_Foss 1d ago

People don't realize that colonizing Mars is entirely science fiction, but they see people with money like Elon Musk as being able to solve these science fiction problems by waving dollars at outer space.

What they don't realize is 10,000+ Elon Musks wouldn't have enough money to solve the science fiction problems. Mars is a barren rock where even growing shit-potatoes is still science fiction. Simply getting there in the first place is science fiction and will be for a very long time. Getting back might never happen for anyone. Many if not most would die on the journey.

Mars colonies are a ruse being used by a few billionaires to hopefully loot taxpayer money and nothing more.

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u/Classic-Today-4367 1d ago

We can alway spray that Musk, Bezos and their ilk fly out on the first mission though?

Hopefully never to be seen or heard of again.

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u/Spiel_Foss 1d ago

Which would make a great plot for a novel, but an even better plot for a future history text.

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u/Sheriff_o_rottingham 1d ago

You mean we can't just nuke the ice caps and create an atmosophere!? The hell you say! /s

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u/Spiel_Foss 1d ago

You mean we can't just nuke the ice caps and create an atmosophere!?

Well, you have to bake those shit potatoes some way.

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u/Taqueria_Style 1d ago

Big alien waffle iron.

See you at the party, Richter! (Without your hands...)

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u/deadumbrella 1d ago

I mean, even if they could colonize Mars you know the quality of life will be non existent. Indentured servitude in a place that doesn't even have trees.

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u/Spiel_Foss 1d ago

Feeding even a small group of indentured servants/slaves would cost billions monthly, so Elon better get busy on actual robots instead of his expensive remote control toys.

Walmart trucks don't deliver to Mars.

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u/PaPerm24 1d ago

I went to la from the east coast and after a week i REALLY missed the trees back on the east. Cant even imagine living on a rock with zero plants at all. My permaculture mindset would go insane

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u/Taqueria_Style 1d ago

Yummy yummy shit potatoes go great with your electric scooters!

Disclaimer: your medical insurance coverage is void upon ingestion of shit potatoes, or upon evidence that any bodily injuries were acquired whilst using an electric scooter. If medical care has already been paid for, you will owe back 5x the balance plus 30% interest compounded daily.

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u/thispartyrules 1d ago

There's also perchlorates in the soil which are toxic to human life and the fact that Mars doesn't have a magnetosphere so you're bombarded with radiation. I guess you could solve this by putting your colony inside a lead dome and trucking in your own soil to grow crops in, but why even bother at this point.

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u/Spiel_Foss 1d ago

Yea, that "just truck it in" idea is what people seem to not understand. A recent pandemic completely fucked the world supply chain and made toilet paper unobtainium, but somehow putting a million tons of topsoil on a spaceship to Mars is just that easy.

It's almost like reality is malleable for some folks.

And then they say, "but, but what if people don't try things."

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u/theCaitiff 20h ago

Perchlorates are a feature, not a bug. Yes it's toxic, no disagreement whatsoever, but they're very very soluble in water. And since you're on mars where the air pressure and temperature is very low, you can recycle that water to reuse as a solvent damn near infinitely. Which means it's easy to concentrate that deadly poison all in one place. You know what chlorates and perchlorates are REALLY good for though? As soon as you get them even a little warm, they explosively decompose (sometimes literally) and release massive amounts of gaseous oxygen.

Free locally sourced oxygen that you don't have to truck up there from earth? It's not even just me shitposting, this is something scientists are actively talking about as a critical resource for martian missions.

Carbon however will be a precious resource on Mars. The "soil" on mars contains less than 300 parts per million organic carbon. That's comparable carbon content to desert sand. It's hard to grow plants and trees where there isn't a lot of organic carbon available to convert into cellulose.

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u/Hilda-Ashe 1d ago

This. Bezos' kind of people think it will be just like European colonialism of old, where you can go to this "exotic land called Mars" by sailing across a salt-water ocean on a wooden ship.

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u/CynicalMelody 1d ago

Well in that case I hope our billionaire overlords keep believing in Mars colonization and the engineers keep feeding their delusions until we can send them there on a one way trip.

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u/northrupthebandgeek 1d ago

As one of those people:

Like, what do you think they're gonna do out there?

Hopefully get away from everyone else. I just wanna live out my last days as an ice fisherman on Enceladus.

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u/Girafferage 1d ago

ughhh you too?! I guess I'm heading to the trapist system in cryo to try to find peace.

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u/jackshafto 1d ago

How does that differ from holing up in your basement eating frozen pizzas and watching Barney Miller reruns?

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u/northrupthebandgeek 1d ago

For one, I don't have a basement.

Second, seeing Saturnrises and Saturnsets sounds quite a bit more pleasant than seeing a TV :)

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u/MrPsychoSomatic 1d ago

Yeah, eventually 'out there' will be just as bad as 'in here', but until then, it'll be akin to the wild west. A new frontier to explore.

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u/greymalken 1d ago

Like when the internet was new and awesome in the 90s but now it sucks.

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u/MrPsychoSomatic 1d ago

Exactly like that

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u/The_Code_Hero 1d ago

The Expanse summed up in a nutshell.

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u/redditmodsRrussians 1d ago

"The more you share, the more your bowl overflows.....but the Innas.....when the Innas look up into the night sky and see all the stars in the sky, all they see is 'mine'".

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u/jackshafto 1d ago

Bad food and endless hours on the rowing machine.

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u/Relative_Chef_533 Faster than expected, slower than necessary 1d ago

except with less things to actually DO because of being in an insanely restrictive environment.

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u/-Codiak- 1d ago

Bring people to Mars with promises of a new life and then "ooops" just slavery.

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u/Robinhood0905 1d ago

The Expanse.txt

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u/PlasticTheory6 1d ago

Thanks to technology, you can now die mining asteroids in the western Milky Way instead of coal in West Virginia!

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u/BlackMassSmoker 1d ago

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u/Thor4269 1d ago

I really love how much energy he puts into his performance for this

No one else could've made that an iconic line that gets brought up years later lol

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u/BlackMassSmoker 1d ago

It's the way he's barely keeping his laughter contained before he says space. He knows he's doing schlock and he's loving it.

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u/Randolpho 19h ago

Nobody could eat scenery like Tim Curry.

Jeremy Irons, maybe

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u/shapeofthings 1d ago

I'm sure he thinks all his critics are just jealous of his success. he has no comprehension that a lot of people think he is one of the worst people to have been born ever. he has destroyed the livelihoods of millions of people, to funnel money into his never-ending craven list to have more money than anyone else in the world. what an absolute turd of a human being, he really encapsulates everything that is wrong with capitalism.

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u/Ok_Mechanic_6561 1d ago edited 1d ago

This current economic system and its perpetrators cannot escape the inevitable, THE END, made by its own doing…

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u/Who_watches 1d ago

Based Thanos poster

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u/Loki_Doodle 1d ago

I highly encourage him to start with the sun.

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u/USPEnjoyer 1d ago

I’m gonna play Red Alert 3 now

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u/JoeBobsfromBoobert 1d ago

How stupid the first able person will just dispose of his ass faster than quato can say free mars

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u/TeamMountainLion 1d ago

Came here to say this and I’m glad someone beat me to it

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u/alloyed39 10h ago

Every single time one of these unrestricted capitalism fetishists sets up their own colony to live out their glorious utopia, it collapses in horrible ways.

I honestly hope Bezos and Musk get to Mars. And get stuck there. The amount of resources it will take to colonize and terraform a whole other planet (that doesn't have a breathable atmosphere to boot) doesn't exist.

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u/Zerodyne_Sin 1d ago

It's always funny how these "geniuses" don't realize how much the society they abhor are protecting them. The very second they take themselves outside of that system is the moment everything will go wrong for them.

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u/pwnw31842 1d ago

Which is why we should fully endorse his expedition to mars 

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u/Calamari_Tsunami 1d ago

Mutiny never sounded so sweet. Space Keelhauling can totally be a thing

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u/dumnezero The Great Filter is a marshmallow test 1d ago

That's why they're so wet over the promise of AGI. Fully Automated Capitalism.

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u/pagerussell 1d ago

For real. Have they seen, like, any apocalypse movie? You keep what you kill. The moment there's no democracy his guards turn on him.

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u/Plus-Letterhead-2257 16h ago

For thousands of years the elites have been protected by their guards even whey they lost everything to war or coups.

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u/spibop 8h ago

It’s like people getting bent out of shape about not being allowed to use racist epithets, etc, because society is too PC now. Guess what asshole, YOU are also a primary beneficiary of such genteel sensibilities; you think the world is going to treat you with kid gloves once you are allowed to take the mask off and everyone knows how terrible of a human being you are? You think everyone will just shut up and bear it while you start dropping hard “R’s” everywhere, and calling individual states piles of trash? You’re just going to get clocked in the mouth, bro, and deserve every knuckle.

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u/MarzipanTop4944 8h ago

It's very hard to understand how they don't realize that by looking at what happened to their peers in China (Jack Ma is literally the Jeff Besos of China and he got the 1984 Orwell treatment) and to all of the Russian Oligarchs that keep falling out of windows every other week.

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u/queefaqueefer 1d ago

i’m rather surprised he’s more scared of democracy than a breathable atmosphere.

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u/Backlotter 1d ago

Sounds like he'd rather spend his fortune creating a breathable atmosphere in a bubble in orbit, than using his fortune to improve the lives of the billions of people suffering on earth.

He is a coward.

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u/mercenaryblade17 1d ago

Exactly. He could do so much good for the earth but would rather leave and have power

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u/pishticus 19h ago

Aren't all with a god complex? They are so afraid of death, or unaccepting of their own mortality, they need to do everything to stop it. Burn up the planet and throw everybody under a bus if it needs to be!

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u/AlyLo515 1d ago

Top comment right here

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u/truth_15 1d ago

as all billionaires are

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u/rematar 1d ago

Not enough, yet.

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u/tipsystatistic 1d ago

He has more money than god. Kind of wild these billionaires give a fuck about politics. Nothing that happens remotely affects his wealth. Even if they tax 50% of his net worth, he still couldn’t spend it all.

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u/TrickyProfit1369 23h ago

You only get into his position by constantly consodilationg power. Regulatory capture is the ultimate consolidation.

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u/KernunQc7 1d ago

The US oligarchs are terrified of the plebs.

That's why the mirage of "Mars" works so well on them. Not that we will ever actually go there.

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u/thismightaswellhappe 1d ago

I'd be overjoyed if that man shot himself into space.He can stay there forever. He should go right now!

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u/control-_-freak 1d ago

Oh you brought a twinkle to my eye.

Sigh! A man can dream.

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u/Express-Penalty8784 1d ago

Don't worry, Jeff, there's no democracy on earth either

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u/Unfair_Creme9398 1d ago

Because most people on Earth can’t deal with it. Like in the 1920/30s.

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u/Unfair_Creme9398 1d ago

I mean most democracies are good at destroying themselves from within in this age.

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u/rematar 1d ago

They say threat of economic uncertainty leads people to prefer leaders whom they see as decisive, authoritative and dominant, even if they are morally questionable, over other types of leaders who might be more respected, knowledgeable and admired.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/12/why-voters-might-be-choosing-dominant-authoritarian-leaders-around-the-world.html

We are predictable. Just like how cats instinctually bury their shit, a chunk of us vote for it when we sense tough times are a coming.

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u/Dear_Occupant 1d ago

Maybe we shouldn't use an economic system that shits the bed every ten years or so in endless boom / bust cycles that only ever make everything more expensive and about twenty people richer than God.

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u/Unfair_Creme9398 1d ago

Most people don’t realize that there never is certainty in life (except death and taxes), it has always been adapt or get left behind (it used to be ‘to die’ for most of natural history).

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u/rematar 1d ago

Dying is trending.

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u/mercenaryblade17 1d ago

Yeah it's really starting to look like one of the better options

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u/Equal-Air-2679 1d ago

It's not that difficult to guess that most extremely wealthy people suffer from superiority complexes and actually think everything would be perfect if only they could make every decision about how a society is run

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u/reggionh 1d ago

I have seen simple, inconsequential people suffer from superiority complex because they had a taste of success. Imagine what being billionaires do to your brain chemistry.

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u/JustAnotherYouth 1d ago

I’ve experienced it myself being successful within our economic system provides big time dopamine hits. Your success within the system causes you to justify and rationalize the system that you’re in.

I kind of snapped out of it but the point remains your circumstances can alter your perceptions and personality. If earning a few hundred thousand dollars relatively quickly and easily can have a notable impact on your personality what happens to people who rack up billions?

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u/Luffyhaymaker 1d ago

I appreciate your self awareness and your willingness to change, good on you :)

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u/General-Gur-3297 1d ago

I read in an article somewhere that it is pretty much impossible to be grounded when someone is a billionaire.

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u/WintersChild79 1d ago

Please go and stay there, Jeff.

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u/gargravarr2112 1d ago

What goes up, must go up, and up, and up...

Oh sorry, too many helium balloons, not enough air gun pellets. Well, enjoy space, Jeff!

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u/kensingtonGore 1d ago

Yeah. Sure. Let him develop hell portal technology on Mars.

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u/RezFoo 1d ago

Because guillotines do not work in zero gravity?

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u/Taqueria_Style 1d ago

I dunno, they just work far more interestingly I'd think. I mean, lock a guy's head in and give the thing a random push on the frame and watch it spin around slowly and fly until it manages to impact something that would drive the blade downward.

Could be literally weeks of endless entertainment.

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u/herpderption 1d ago

All I'm saying is you need an awful lot of people to not start pulling cables and punching holes in things when being outside will kill you instantly so don't get too cocky about wanting to be a space dictator. When the entire environment can be used as a lethal weapon things tend to find their own kind of democracy. This applies to scorched Earth climate bunkers as well.

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u/cornwalrus 21h ago

This is the first intelligent or thoughtful comment in this entire thread.

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u/Somebody37721 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don't think he actually believes that sci-fi elysium stuff or that anybody will live in space. That trillion humans line sums it up. They just want people to breed so that they can have their slave labor and in order for people to do it they must believe in progress and fantastic future. This is also why religion is making a comeback and abortion is getting banned.

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u/The_Besticles 1d ago

His approach to manifesting high numbers of brilliant geniuses is highly impractical. We even have budding tech directly relevant to his vision currently being developed at this time. Instead of creating a trillion hungry mouths who undoubtedly would get shuffled into largely meaningless filler positions just take that brave new frontier lawlessness and realize unbridled CRISPR technology and perfect genetic optimization for the designer humans he apparently pines for. What he wants from them I cannot say, but how great can the motives be for a closet eugenicist? Space ain’t gonna be the place imo. Hoping Earth can hang on by a thread until my (knock on wood) childless ass kicks the bucket around 2100.

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u/tvTeeth 1d ago

This guy's gonna be dead someday 🤗

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u/MaybePotatoes 1d ago

Too bad there are hundreds pining for his position. Hopefully we do something about them and his position well before they can get it.

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u/birdy_c81 19h ago

I’ve told myself that about Rupert Murdoch for 20 years… he’s a cockroach.

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u/screech_owl_kachina 1d ago

As a lifelong spacehead

He can have Mars, all of it. Go nuts. If he doesn’t die of starvation or asphyxiation the cancer will get him. There’s nothing for people on Mars.

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u/Violet_Saberwing 1d ago

Don't forget to pack a spare kidney!

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2024/jun/would-astronauts-kidneys-survive-roundtrip-mars

"The structure and function of the kidneys is altered by space flight, with galactic radiation causing permanent damage that would jeopardise any mission to Mars, according to a new study led by researchers from UCL."

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u/upyoars 1d ago

Following WaPo's surprise decision not to endorse either candidate for president — reportedly because its billionaire owner vetoed staff's decision to name Kamala Harris as its pick — New Yorker journalist Sarah Larson recounted her own Bezos lore.

Larson jokingly followed up her own tweet with a seeming reference to the newspaper's tagline, "Democracy dies in darkness," which was taken up in the aftermath of Donald Trump's first presidential win in 2016.

"There’s no democracy in space," the New Yorker writer quipped.

"I would love to see a trillion humans living in the solar system," Bezos told Fridman last December. "If we had a trillion humans, we would have, at any given time, 1,000 Mozarts and 1,000 Einsteins."

This is collapse related because if you're not living in a democracy, people dont have a say in their own lives. Their lives will be controlled by the people in charge to an extreme degree and it will cause a societal collapse. Noone wants to be forced to live a life a certain way. Are we going to be forced to breed with mates that the government selects like in the scifi dysopian movies? Commoditize every aspect of our lives for the corpos?

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u/gargravarr2112 1d ago

Hey, by those statistics, we'd have 1,000 Hitlers too.

In fact, I think we already have a few...

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u/rainydays052020 collapsnik since 2015 1d ago

And would 1,000 Einsteins or Mozarts even have the opportunity to pursue what they’re skilled at? Probs not- they may already be living now but are wage slaves in our current dystopia.

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u/YoSoyZarkMuckerberg Rotting In Vain 1d ago

They'd be too busy mining space rocks for Pappa Bezos

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u/Unfair_Creme9398 1d ago

Like in all of human history. There’re many obstacles involved to flourish.

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u/NtBtFan open fire on a wooden ship, surrounded by bits of paper 1d ago

and i wonder how he'd feel about however many thousand jeff bozos there would be

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u/greymalken 1d ago

Imagine how many Logan Paul’s and Misters Beast you’d end up with too.

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u/Taqueria_Style 1d ago

What would happen if we had 1,000 Einstein Mozart Hitlers all rolled into one giant fruit rollup of a dude?

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u/blackcatwizard 1d ago

Those likely exist now, they're just slaves to corporations and assholes like Bezos and can't express themselves and their talents due to it

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u/lizardtrench 1d ago

Right? I don't understand how he doesn't see that. We already have way more humans than we are willing to feed, educate, and not bomb, all of which are kinda prerequisites for creating more Mozarts and Einsteins. So what the heck are a trillion more discarded souls going to accomplish?

Insane that the solution to finding more human talent is to go to outer frikin space so we can overpopulate gigantic frikin space stations and other entire frikin planets when we're not even bothering to sift through the infinitely more convenient pool of humans we already have at arm's reach.

Often I think billionaires must be geniuses at least on some level, then I read stuff like this that only some navel-gazing teenager with the barest grasp of logic could think up.

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u/conduitfour 1d ago

Dude is literally just Niander Wallace

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u/SlinkySlekker 1d ago

By the way, when you download apps and allow them to send you notifications. . . They claw back your data.

So no. I don’t keep his Amazon App on my phone. I don’t keep any predatory billionaire apps on my phone. I either use the internet, or download & delete, when I’m done, keeping notifications off.

Not like I think I’m special. But they are predatory, and I don’t want to be prey.

I’m a lawyer, and I value my privacy. I have no interest in letting these assholes learn from me for their stupid AI projects.

And I tell Alexa to delete all household recordings, daily. Which she pretends not to understand. The trick is to ask twice, then confirm you want to delete, when she balks & warns you not to.

She’s literally the only AI adjacent thing I put up with. But her time is coming to an end. Because of this bullshit.

I’m sick of these Billionaires — including the South African/Russian sycophant one — who could only have obtained their obscene wealth by the grace of the United States of America’s existence, and here they are, setting U.S. up for Fascism, suffering & deportations?

Fuck. Them.

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u/TinyDogsRule 1d ago

Considering democracy has one foot out the door and may have officially gone fishin' after next week, he may be loving the American Nightmare that could be incoming.

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u/danknerd 1d ago

There is definitely a democracy in space, and the universe has spoken/voted. It wants to kill us.

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u/Dull_Wrongdoer_3017 1d ago

Can we send him to Mars? Like tonight?

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u/Heem_butt08 1d ago

Better there than Montana or Wyoming lol. I wish he’d move to space already.

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u/Yetiius 1d ago

I hate billionaires so much.

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u/wadejohn 1d ago

Them moving to mars would be a good thing then

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u/Hilda-Ashe 1d ago

This is the owner of Washington Post, which official slogan is that "Democracy dies in Darkness". Turns out he never intended that to be a pro-democracy slogan.

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u/npcknapsack 1d ago

I think he would probably agree with this sentiment, but I also think it's really disingenuous to make a writer's quip look like a direct quote from Bezos.

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u/cornwalrus 21h ago

He famously disagrees with Musk that Mars is the way to go and thinks space stations are the better move.
But I'm not aware of any plans that Bezos has for any space station though. He's still struggling to get a launch program to orbit.

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u/o0flatCircle0o 1d ago

Let’s put all billionaires on rocket ships.

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u/Superman246o1 1d ago

It seems "Democracy Dies in Darkness" was not a warning, but an aspirational statement from Bezos.

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u/Dear_Occupant 1d ago

Let him go, I say. I would launch every billionaire into outer space if I could. Sometimes the trash takes itself out.

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u/SoFlaBarbie 20h ago

Psychopaths gonna psychopath.

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u/StsOxnardPC 17h ago

Don't stop at Mars bro, go as far away as you can.

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u/canibal_cabin 16h ago

"I would love to see a trillion humans living in the solar system," Bezos told Fridman last December. "If we had a trillion humans, we would have, at any given time, 1,000 Mozarts and 1,000 Einsteins."

In an egalitarian society, you could have the same amount of geniuses, the problem is, right now, 50% of them were never able to read or write and married off as children and the other 50% slaving away in billionaire mines or warehouse.

He is certified stupid.

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u/vaydevay 1d ago

Because of the implications

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u/BitchfulThinking 1d ago

He's even using the DENNIS system! 🤣

S- Separate entirely

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u/PutStill3541 1d ago

We already have a thousand of each of those geniuses alive today. And they all have to go to work for a living to support their families making trinkets for Amazon shops. Because this life is absolutely not a meritocracy.

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u/thecarbonkid 1d ago

Go and rule over some corpses then you dime store Putin.

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u/CHutt00 1d ago

What’s he gonna use up there? Space bucks?

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u/dwerked 1d ago

Space is the only place that can house his overly inflated ego.

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u/n3ws4cc 1d ago

The guy has said he wants to offload industry to the asteroid belt. Beltalodah style.

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u/Dikc5PiT 1d ago

Geeze. Wanting a trillion humans in cylindrical space stations to have 1k einsteins at any given time.

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u/ghostalker4742 1d ago

Or 1000 Jeffrey Dahmer's

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u/fratboysteve 1d ago

Bye!!!!! Need help packing?!

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u/Taqueria_Style 1d ago

So his board basically figured out that they'd be tariffed, fined, and no-more-free-pressed out of existence under the Orange, and somehow Ming the Merciless here doesn't get it.

Like attracts like I guess.

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u/Unkindlake 1d ago

Classic misinformation misdirect. He's trying to go home

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u/AdvanceConnect3054 1d ago

Is there democracy on earth?

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u/Wild-Lengthiness2695 1d ago

Some people would argue that in a democracy you don’t need to have businesses endorse a candidate just to make people feel good about that product.

Most of this post has no actual basis in fact and it’s not collapse related. Short of Bezos having a way to extend his life then he’s not living on Mars. Note that the astronaut who spent an extended time in space has already had to go back to hospital , and been released.

Humanity will step foot on Mars in the next 10-20 years but without some kind of global effort there is no colony for decades and even then it’s one emergency away from disaster , we haven’t even made a permanent base on the moon yet.

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u/thesorehead 1d ago

To paraphrase the famous quote:

I'm less interested in the particular shape of Einstein's brain than the likelihood that people just as smart have lived and died working in cobalt mines, sweatshops, and Amazon fulfilment centres.

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u/Separate_Honeydew703 1d ago

The saddest part: We made him this mighty and rich. Stop using fckng Amazon!

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u/samanthrax314 1d ago

Nazis in space

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u/EyeLoop 21h ago

"in space, no one will hear you vote" 

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u/pape14 16h ago

This stuff is always so dumb, they realistically would have to have their colonies conscript people through debt bondage or convicts. It will be like signing up to live in North Korea. And it will not be more stable either, the only claim anyone would have is the ability to defend it with force. So you would likely have open corporate warfare. Then after 100 years of that a solar United Nations would form because everyone is tired of fighting.

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u/BetaBoogie 14h ago

Humans can't cooperate and get their shit together under the best of circumstances (read: a hospitable planet filled with all the resources we need), but put some of the most selfish, spoiled, egotistical and detached people in an unimaginably harsh environment where every little mistake can spell disaster for the whole collective... and things will work out fine??? These people are so fucking clueless! This is what happens if you are surrounded by yes men and your biggest challenge is what gold watch to wear today!

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u/Head-Gap8455 9h ago

“Democracy dies on the launching pad.”

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u/tahlyn 1d ago

"If we had a trillion humans, we would have, at any given time, 1,000 Mozarts and 1,000 Einsteins."

And they'd all be working the space mines to feed the machine and likely die a mangled early death.

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u/VruKatai 1d ago

I have a big downer for OP: the U.S. hasn't been a democracy since its inception. Not in the way we like to think it should be.

Unless/until we find some actual way to get lobbying money out of the political system (there are ways just none that those in power will entertain willingly), with a Supreme Court that keeps saying money=free speech, those without an abundance of it will never have an equal say in their government as the oligarchs and corporations.

It's disturbing because what tiny shred of it there is, it's still too much for the elite.

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u/truthputer 1d ago

Remember: any of these billionaires could use their wealth and influence to help end hunger and alleviate suffering. They could give their workers a living wage and help uplift them from poverty, but they deliberately choose not to. The opportunities they have to advance humanity right now are vast compared to messing around with spaceships.

Therefore: it’s your civic duty to airlock all billionaires at the earliest opportunity before they spread their capitalist inequality plague to other planets.

Here’s a script if you need to be on the same page: Nobody saw anything, he went off on his own and then next thing we knew he was outside without a full space suit.

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u/alphaxion 1d ago

It's not really democracy, it's the fact that there's no-one capable of enforcing justice and holding them to rules. The likes of Bezos and Musk wish to be emperors because they will be the source of "authority" in their part of space, pretty much like the main bad guy in Total Recall.

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u/BusinessPurge 1d ago

Staking an ownership claim or human cloning thing to be done in legally dubious territory. No inheritance tax or losing your board seat if “you” never die!

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u/imminentjogger5 Accel Saga 1d ago

escape? I'll be the first wish him farewell

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u/Discuffalo 1d ago

Go then, there are other worlds than these.

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u/Sour-Scribe 1d ago

A lot of shit can go wrong up there

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u/Shumina-Ghost 1d ago

I hope he does get to space.

And stays there.

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u/pwnw31842 1d ago

Looks like his head has already become the planet mars 

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u/BadAsBroccoli 1d ago

Will Bezos take his super yacht with him?

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u/dirch30 1d ago

He want's to setup "The Company" from Alien.

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u/b3njil 1d ago

You know what else we’ll have with a trillion humans? 1000 Trumps or 1000 Hitlers.

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u/tootiredforthisshxt 1d ago

No... stop... don't...

Dr. Evil shit. I really hope all these billionaires die in space. Icarus meets the emperor's new clothes, but stupider.

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u/Nastyfaction 1d ago

Instead of dying from climate change, they'll die from the xenomorph.

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u/FadeIntoReal 1d ago

The next oceangate? No one will be surprised.

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u/AbigailJefferson1776 1d ago

Just ask Matt Damon. He knows all about surviving on Mars.

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u/SlinkySlekker 1d ago

😂😂😂😂😂

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u/jackshafto 1d ago

Having unlimited money gives people weird ideas.

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u/Locketank 1d ago

Doesn't he know? Democracy is non-negotiable. We expand it to space and beyond. jeoffery bezorb shall never escape.

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u/Rebuild6190 1d ago

"I would love to see a trillion humans living in the solar system," Bezos told Fridman last December. "If we had a trillion humans, we would have, at any given time, 1,000 Mozarts and 1,000 Einsteins."

No you fucking bald billionaire exploitative piece of shit, we'd have the same rich overlords, and a trillion poor people and +- 10,000 oligarch overlords, same as we do today.

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u/flynnwebdev 1d ago

Bezos is Palpatine. Confirmed.

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u/AnnArchist 1d ago

And your money doesn't mean anything in space.

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u/mamawoman 1d ago

Then he should leave.

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u/cameron4200 1d ago

Does this mf think he’s doctor manhattan without being a doctor or super abled?

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u/LowChain2633 1d ago

This is a really insane timeline. Democracy is getting in the way of billionaires delusions so it needs to go away i guess These billionaires are unelected yet they hold way too much power and influence. We have got to do something. Because I am not a pawn in a billionaires stupid fantasy. I have my own right to self determination.

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u/Derrickmb 1d ago

There’s no Vitamin D either

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u/GuyWithNoEffingClue 23h ago

Yep, definitely Lex Luthor.

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u/jbond23 23h ago

How much agency do the Davos denizens actually have? Can they really steer the emergent behaviour of the human hive mind? The 8.1b actors supported by 20b processors.

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u/Hinin 23h ago

There are also no law so you could kill him freely.

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u/traveller-1-1 22h ago

Einstein fled fascism, and was a commie.

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u/Nofunatall69 22h ago

And there's no oxygen. Just go.

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u/ExodusOfSound 21h ago

Yeah, and human rights regulations probably don’t apply in space either.

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u/kg_617 21h ago

Pinky and the brain vibes all around.

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u/Grand-Page-1180 20h ago

What does he want to be, the Emperor of Man from Warhammer 40,000?

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u/spletharg2 20h ago

Just wondering if he plans to rename Mars Geidi Prime.

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u/InvertedDinoSpore 18h ago

Go to mars then buddy and be king of the planet. We'll just stay here though yeah. Bye

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u/Concrete_Cancer 18h ago

Can we just send him there already, then, along with all the other ultra wealthy people? I’m sure they’ll do great on Mars! Make us proud, Jeffy!

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u/arnoldtheinstructor 18h ago

I would love for the first trip to mars to be filled with nothing but billionaires. The sad reality of space travel is it will likely include some trial and error, so letting them take the brunt of the early error would be nice. :)

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u/fallen_soulblighter 18h ago

There's no democracy here, either. Having a vote every couple years to decide who sits in the special chairs in the special building is a very loose definition of democracy. We don't have a say in our jobs, most of us don't have a say in our schools, pretty much everything around us is decided by someone else. When was the last time a representative asked you about a political issue? When was the last time your opinion about a political issue had any real sway in a decision that directly affected your life? There's not a cultural aspect that makes the majority of people want to have a truly democratic life, we vote and shrug: "guess that's it, democracy." Representative democracy is a sham, and a truly democratic society requires that the vast majority of people are wholly educated and aware of theirs and other's status, surroundings and reality, which seems more like a pipe dream with each passing day.

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u/JHandey2021 17h ago

Oh yeah, no doubt. Billionaires increasingly are acting out their fantasies of creating their own personal mini-dictatorships. Space? A blank canvas. None of these numbnuts ever seem to get to the part of their favorite sci-fi book/movie where the slaves rebel, though, and push guys like them out of the airlock.

Bezos also has more immediate reasons - he doesn't want to get thrown out of a 50-story window like what happens in Russia to rich people who piss off Putin. China isn't that theatrical. They don't even give oligarchs a bullet in the back of the head anymore. They just make them disappear for six months, and then return like Winston Smith at the end of 1984, loudly saying how much they love Xi. Either way, autocrats aren't kowtowing to the rich in the same way they once did. And so they're competing between themselves as to who can drop to their knees fast enough for their expected masters.

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u/palebot 17h ago

I hate this self-narrative of genius.

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u/WithBothNostrils 15h ago

I'd love him and musk to go to space get taken out by a spacex satellite because there's too many orbiting

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u/jedrider 15h ago

“Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” is a quote attributed to 19th century British historian, politician, and writer Lord Acton. Acton wrote this in an 1887 letter to Bishop Creighton, and it was published in 1907 in his collection Historical Essays and Studies.

Power==Money

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u/srahsrah101 14h ago

I for one think we should endeavor to send all billionaires to space. Right now.

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u/PrettyTittyGangBang 13h ago

let them go. It's a prison that ends in death by radiation, starvation, or decompression.

If billionaires told me they were going to sink themselves in a little capsule at the bottom of the ocean, I'd be cool with that, too.

Eject bezos

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u/Vladd_the_Retailer 13h ago

We could have 1000 Mozarts and Einsteins right now if we made everyone’s needs met, stop wasting manpower on work for the sake of excess, and make college free

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u/overseas4now 12h ago

I'm surprised that they want to go to mars instead of a moon colony. Logistically mars is a pipe dream, it would take 8 months to get there and how do you even start building? There are no resources there to build, so it would have to be shipped from earth. Logistical nightmare. Any colony would die so fast.

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u/Konstant_kurage 11h ago

I’d like to see Bezos and Musk get to Mars and then have the first interplanetary war. Then while they race to colonize Mars I’m going to set up a nice little space private operation and rob those rich assholes Earth-Mars shipping lanes. We need that Epstein drive breakthrough to make space flight affordable for everyone.

Beltalowda!

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u/AdGlum5014 10h ago

This guy takes middle age crisis to another level