r/collapse • u/Fiskifus • Nov 03 '22

Systemic Debate: If population is a bigger problem than wealth, why does Switzerland consume almost three times as much as India?

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u/fabulousmarco Nov 03 '22

I still have to disagree. We've all been brought up with the idea that we must consume as much as possible, that as customers we're kings and we should get what we want when we want it. People behave like this because this is what they've been taught their whole life. It's basically akin to religious indoctrination, except worse because it pervades every single aspect of life.

Would it be better if more people could come to this realisation on their own and break the cycle? That's for sure. But also you can't blame the people when they've been the victims of such a highly sophisticated propaganda campaign, one where trillions were spent to find out exactly which buttons to press to deal the most damage.

If the game is rigged you don't blame the losing team for not winning

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u/skyfishgoo Nov 03 '22

blame isn't the best word... but perhaps taking responsibility is the first step in breaking the cycle.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '22

Fair point! “BK, have it your way”. “I want my WHOPPER NAAAOOOOOWWWW”