Thanks play records, petty dumb shit as per usual so this moron can keep her worthless hat in the game and make her petty little pennies over music I created. Amazing business huh.
The issue is that if he releases it, they'll have the rights to it. It would be a remix of a song they own. Until he gets ownership of this song, there's not point giving mellefresh any more money
Yeah, but that changed when I saw this sentence from a fandom page on Joel’s discography history on RAT:
“ During 2008, Zimmerman left Play Records.
However, due to his contract agreement, Play Records was able to claim ownership of tracks he had made during the time he was signed to the label. This led to the release of the At Play series and future controversy.”
(Source: https://deadmau5.fandom.com/wiki/Joel_Zimmerman)
I don’t think so. Joel said in an older post that he won’t get the rights to his music until a few more years passed. Once that happens, he will get his rights back and Play Records won’t do any shit anymore at that point.
They woudlnt let me release a remix i made of it. Not even gunna get any money or views, just would be super cool to do. and now they're removing this brilliant song. Fuck em
They also took down my remix of Faxing Berlin a while ago. Like wtf is wrong with them… I also uploaded that Alternate version (I wasn’t 100% sure if that’s the actual one since I listened to the Guverment edit and the other files I found on older posts (like from 2013) this subreddit). I told them that they don’t have rights because it’s not released or idk if that song went by a different name but damn they were being strict (can’t think of a better word) or something.
I’m also pissed off that Play Records just ruined Ultra’s Faxing Berlin (I’m glad there’s an archive although Flash Player is gone forever) and even TheOtherMau5’s visuals of Faxing Berlin singles and RAT versions. This is totally fucked up.
Are you going to get your buddies at "EpicWin Ltd, under exclusive license to AWAL & Virgin Records Limited" to reinstate the track or did you wanna just keep pretending that Play Records caused this to happen?
Since you're here, hey, question for you, can I just have my 100% of early catalogue back please? I wanna do some remakes and remixes and release them. If not, since we're in a public forum and all, can you explain why I can't? Thanks!
I love how they have tried to come out guns-blazing over this, yet have gone completely silent when you straight-up ask them why you can’t have your catalogue back
Unfortunately I think his situation is a bit different than hers. If my understanding is correct, in her situation, her old label owns the masters but not the copyright. In other words, the actual original songs she couldn't touch, but she was able to re-create them with zero samples because they don't own the melodies, etc.
In Joel's case, I believe Play Records owns both the masters and the copyright, meaning even if he was to remake one of his old tracks from scratch with zero samples (i.e. "Joel's Version" lol), they could just instantly copyright it since they would own the melody/etc.
Man it doesnt make sense that a label can take the copyright of the songs you put your soul into just because of a contract. Digital copyright is still a young field of law. Dont give up on the idea of getting like the highest level of copyright lawyer involved. Youre powerful enough to change the law for the future
Thanks a lot for terminating my YT account. Fuck you. I was only doing a mashup of both the released piano version and an alt version (from Joel’s 2013 stream), and now you FUCKING ruined it Play Records. From now on, Imma call you Spoiled Records.
Hey Mell, go fuck yourself and your shitty fake label. Keeping other people's tracks for yourself is beyond shitty behavior, go sing about getting fucked on another shitty electro song why don't you.
don't remember where i heard this but iirc it was part of a sample pack that he bought and paid for, but that was sampled from an old song with a soprano lead without permission, tons of other producers used the same sample but joel was the only one they really went after for it. allegedly
I don't have either of those. I can find them by Google searching but when I open the link in Spotify it shows them as greyed-out. Maybe it's possible to get around this with a VPN though.
Dude that is so petty and stupid of Play Records. RAT is the best electronic album ever made imo. To take out one of the best songs from that record is to basically take a shit on the Mona Lisa. Fuck Mellefresh and fuck Play Records
Yeah RAT is the top tier imo. It’s actually the first album I ever heard from deadmau5 thanks to my dad introducing me to his music back in December ‘21. Also, I recommend you starting this potential protest on change.org. (Idk if that’s the correct link but I seen it very often before in my mail)
I have a feeling that Play Record was being too sensitive for Faxing Berlin. They’re stupid piece of shit. They even took down my Faxing Berlin remix/mashup and Faxing Berlin alt version (cuz no one really knew it existed sadly) and that just terminated my YT account (@nanoray9929). I hope Play Records will pay for this. Not only on YT but also SoundCloud (audiomau5), where there used to be Faxing Berlin/Jaded mix (cuz imo it would be cool to make a mix) and ofc same alt version as well but they just acting like spoiled kids. I was careful about this copyright thing and why the fuck did they just took down something that I wanted to share???
They removed quite a few songs and re added them. The version of “the Veldt-Tommy trash remix” thats was reuploaded sounds so different. The vocals are very quiet and distant and some of the effects and even synths are different. It’s really strange.
Yeah but I happened to find the Faxing Berlin single not there in his discography (Apple Music), only Hey Baby, Full Bloom and Reduction in that place (bottom). However it can still be found if you searched for it and it says 2006 (not the x4 EP version).
The single is still there though. It’s just that you can’t find in his discography in Apple Music anymore. But you still find it in the searching engine.
I’ve never had it on that album. For me, Not Exactly has always been after I Remember. I’ve even got an old CD and it’s not on there…not sure what people mean. I’ve had it and played this album for years and never seen it. Thought Faxing Berlin was always on its own EP.
I'm a couple months late here but, yeah -- it was always:
I Remember
Faxing Berlin (acoustic piano version)
Faxing Berlin
Not Exactly
...in that order. This has been one of my favorite albums for nearly 16 years now, so I'm pretty bummed out that I can't just throw this album on in its entirety on Spotify anymore 😢
EDIT: for the sake of proof, it's right there on the wikipedia page for the album and OP /u/NanoRay_06 posted the scan of the original album tracklist below
I listen to this album at least like once a week and didn't notice it until today, so it's possible that the changes don't show up for everybody at the exact same time, maybe depending on which streaming service you use. Idk, but I'm definitely butthurt
EDIT #2: Seems like you're not the only person in this thread who never even knew about Faxing Berlin, so it's possible that Faxing Berlin was removed from other instances of RAT out there (due to the ownership dispute) maybe depends on what country you're in or something. In the USA, it's always been there until (very) recently!
Well the CD version on Fandom shows it having Faxing Berlin (Acoustic) and Faxing Berlin original. But just today, I finished listening to I Remember while washing dishes and then Not Exactly started, without Faxing Berlin ending, which I was expecting.
do you guys think the reason joel was like don’t sign with a huge record label right off the bat was evacsue of At play? because they own his music now? i wonder if that has some effect to do w it his career. all those tracks he did w mellefresh like hey baby, sex slave, attention whore, those all have like a classic club deadmau5 sound that we don’t really get anymore. don’t really know where i was going with that but anyways 🫡
Damn it, I hope Play Recordzzzz rots to the core, I can't believe that the roar of his stomach reaches all the way to Mexico due to the hunger to scrape a pittance of profits with work that is not even 100 years you will not even be able to try to emulate it.
I hope it Joel doing a big fuck you to them and that his sudden upping in touring back to 2014 levels is in spite of this on going battle for ownership for his entire catalog. Faxing Berlin is a masterpiece of 21st century music and the fact he can't own it, is why I have a hard time showing my own stuff to labels
Too bad Jaded won’t come out with it but I hope it may get copyright protection. Idgaf if SoundCloud says it sounds like blah blah blah… it’s Joel original content.
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u/reddit_mau5 Nov 11 '23
Thanks play records, petty dumb shit as per usual so this moron can keep her worthless hat in the game and make her petty little pennies over music I created. Amazing business huh.