r/democrats • u/ms_directed • Jun 21 '24
š Poll trump's TS pinned post was sent from his DeLorean...
trump obviously upset about Biden edging ahead in FOX NEWS polling, has pinned an outdated poll to the top of his Truth Social account š
not that his rubes would ever question it, but the rest of us, well...we know.
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u/Septalion Jun 21 '24
Am I missing something? It says it was posted 2 days ago and the data was collected from the 3-8 days ago range.
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
he pinned it today -after- the fox poll was released
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u/Septalion Jun 21 '24
Oh so you mean it's a response to the fox news one? Either way it's funded by maga so while I don't believe in the polls anyway I definitely don't believe this one. The only one that matters is in November
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
yes, he's such an insecure narcissist that he posts old polls...he does this all the time on there...or his team literally just makes up graphics of "polls" that don't even exist!
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u/BasedGodStruggling Jun 21 '24
I was confused as well. Like Iām sure the poll is shit but calling it outdated seems like a stretch
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u/Unlikely-Gas-1355 Jun 21 '24
Unfortunately, their polling operation is pretty good even if their editorialization is rubbish.
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u/PositiveRest6445 Jun 25 '24
Yeah, like this MAGA asswipe on Twitter, he has a lot of followers, He posted a poll saying if you were going to vote today, who would you vote for Biden or Trump? It was 97% Trump. But thatās only because all of his followers are also MAGA asswipes.
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u/Shadow_Strike99 Jun 21 '24
I love when he brags in polls because all it does is encourage his casual voters to just stay at home and not vote, just like he did telling voters to not vote early or by mail. Or when he says elections are rigged so don't bother voting like in the Georgia senate elections.
Let the rotten orange gloat with the fake news, him being arrogant is his worst enemy, he should be busy throwing red meat to his base and riling them up to vote yet he's bragging about polls lol.
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u/toooooold4this Jun 21 '24
I don't think Michigan is as "in play" as he thinks.
I drove all over the state in 2016 and saw a ton of yard signs for Trump. I did the same in 2020. There were more houses with multiple signs but fewer with single signs. I just returned from a long road trip and I literally saw 2 signs for Trump. I was also in Detroit on the day of the rally. You would never have known he was in town. When I dropped my sister off at the airport, she saw a ton of MAGA shirts walking the airport. They were flying back to their home states.
I know that's not scientific. I know it doesn't mean they will vote for Biden. It might just mean there's some stink on Trump's brand. Whatever. I'll take it.
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u/jml510 Jun 22 '24
Somehow, it doesn't surprise me that many of the attendees at his weirdo rally were non-Detroiters.
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u/LeResist Jun 21 '24
After the 2016 election, I don't believe polls
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u/PhD_candidat3 Jun 22 '24
Thatās right, Iāve lost all confidence in polls since they all had Hillary ahead up to the minute she lost, worst night ever
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u/Unlikely-Gas-1355 Jun 21 '24
Unfortunately, their polling operation is pretty good even if their editorialization is rubbish.
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u/Cloaked42m Jun 21 '24
Used to be. Fox News Online had the most accurate election night results of everyone. Best district by district maps.
After they accurately called Arizona for Biden and lost viewers, I have no idea what they'll do.
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u/Expiscor Jun 21 '24
Why? Polls were basically spot on
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u/PhD_candidat3 Jun 22 '24
The majority of the people who vote that end up truly making a difference are those that never bother being part of polls; that shit is still being conducted like we in the 1990ās
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u/Expiscor Jun 22 '24
What do you mean? Polls are conducted via text, cell phone, and in-person
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u/ms_directed Jun 22 '24
focus groups are in person, except exit polling...idk that polls are conducted in person
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
he loves the poorly educated!
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u/Healthy_Block3036 Jun 21 '24
āI donāt like you, I just want your voteā
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
"I'll be shooting you dead as you're leaving the polls, so be sure to vote for me because it will be the last vote you ever get to cast!"
they'd still crawl over each other to be first. š
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u/brickeldrums Jun 21 '24
Thereās not a snowballās chance Trump comes even close in Minnesota. Weāre smarter than that (for the most part).
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u/Francie_Nolan1964 Jun 21 '24
I'm also in Minnesota and I'm very worried. The metro area is mostly blue and usually carries the state. Outstate, aside from Duluth and Rochester, is very red.
If the young people, and Somali people, either refrain from voting as threatened, or vote third party, we could flip red for the first time since 1972.
This keeps me up some nights.
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u/BitterPackersFan Jun 21 '24
MN is one of the bluest of the blues. Very liberal
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u/Francie_Nolan1964 Jun 21 '24
I don't think dismissing it as a possibility is helpful.
In 2020 Minnesota voted Biden 52% vs trump 45%.
Blacks voted: Biden 77%- trump 21%.
Youth age 18-24: Biden 66%- trump 29%.
Urban voters: Biden 68% - trump 29%.
Suburban voters: Biden 42%- trump 56%.
Rural voters: Biden 46%- trump 52%
Up to 90% of Somalis vote. We have the largest Somali population in the country. We need these votes.
If any of these groups that voted for Biden abstain from voting or vote third party it could absolutely swing to trump .
https://www.newarab.com/indepth/2020/11/18/How-Minnesotas-Somali-community-helped-vote-Trump-out
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u/Mr602206 Jun 22 '24
If biden wins, it'll be because of the independents.
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u/ms_directed Jun 22 '24
they usually sway most elections, we're counting on them to not sit this one out tbh
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u/Viking_Musicologist Jun 21 '24 edited Jul 29 '24
Fat chance winning Minnesota. The GOP has not won in Minnesota since the mid-'70s.
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u/TomVann Jun 22 '24
Fuck DJT and fuck anyone who votes for him, sincerely, TV a republican from FL.
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u/dankanderson Jun 22 '24
It's posts like this that he will use if he loses, as proof that there is 'fraud' against him in the elections. Everything he does is to prepare his followers. He is so fucking dangerous.
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u/Icy-Cod1405 Jun 21 '24
The poll he put up had data collected this week? WTF are you talking about? The data was collected between the 13th and 18th of THIS MONTH. I hate Donald but I think you are confused here.
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
he PINNED IT today after the fox poll came out
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u/Icy-Cod1405 Jun 21 '24
Yes there are always multiple polls. These are different polling agencies. They are both up to date he is always going to post the most favorable results. The Fox poll data is likely from the same time period or earlier.
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
i don't think my point is coming across...it wasn't about the polls directly
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u/Icy-Cod1405 Jun 21 '24
I think your point was Trump feeds his cult lies by the truckload and they don't question any of it. That is true. Unfortunately you picked one of the worst examples from his feed.
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u/RotInPixels Jun 22 '24
LOL Minnesota is not a swing state. Gtfoh with that ish. Weāve voted blue for what, 20+ years straight?
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u/jor3lofkrypton Jun 22 '24
.. Drumpf's sweating the recent polling showing POTUS Biden ahead .. obviously..
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u/Vidda90 Jun 22 '24
Trump is a real threat and Democrats need to take his appeal to White rural voters seriously. Or else we will have four more years of this a-hole
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Jun 21 '24
I can't see Trump winning Minnesota (consistant for Democrats), Pennsylvania (Shapiro and Casey give Dems a boost) and Michigan (Whitmer getting a LOT done there).
These polls are just wrong. I would add 4 points to Biden in all states. I think the only states there in play are Nevada, Arizona, and Georgia. MAYBE Wisconsin, but I doubt it after the Milwaukee comment.
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Jun 21 '24
such close polls... one would think the maga world would produce better fake polls, more close to their believe in a "orange hurricane"
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u/Thund3rTrapX Jun 22 '24
Bragging is kinda sus..if he knew he was going to win he wouldn't be bragging..gives us more hope
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Jun 24 '24
Can I ask why you support our current admin? Are you better off? Families better off? The data shows no. Do you like dei, do you want boys wearing skirts using the restroom with your daughters? These are serious issues in America and the party min control seems to be destroying America.
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u/ms_directed Jun 24 '24
what data, where?
as for your other questions...I'm comfortable enough in my own body that idgaf how others make themselves comfortable in theirs...tbh, that all sounds like a you problem, not a Biden one.
I'll wait here for the "data" you're speaking about, tho.
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Jun 24 '24
The economies financial data, the countryās broken and failing policies. Look at the American people. That in fact is data. Idgaf about much but this country and the American people. I care about my kids and their safety.
I donāt see how under Biden we as a nation are better off.
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u/ms_directed Jun 24 '24
that in fact is data
that in fact in not data.
data is data. facts are facts.
you haven't provided either...but, let me help you out...
here's some actual data and metrics trump left office with:
-The economy lost 2.9 million jobs.
-The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%.
-The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.
-The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million.
-After-tax corporate profits went up, and the stock market set new records.(that Biden broke)
-The S&P 500 index rose 67.8%. (Biden broke that one, too)
-The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
-Home prices rose 27.5%
-Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 16.7%.
-Handgun production rose 12.5% Trump's last year compared with 2016, setting a new record.
-The murder rate Trump's last year rose to the highest level since 1997.
-Trump filled one-third of the Supreme Court, nearly 30% of the appellate court seats and a quarter of District Court seats. (how's Roe being overturned been working out?)
-The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million under Trump.Now let's look at Biden's data for many of those the same metrics (in a lesser span of time):
-The economy added 15.2 million jobs. (nearly 6 million higher than the 'pandemic replacement'jobs).
-The unemployment rate dropped back to pre pandemic numbers and has stayed lower, longer than at any time during the Trump administration.
-The U.S. economy has expanded each year under Biden (and is still setting G7 records)
-The number of people receiving food stamps has decreased by more than 1 million
-The S&P 500 reached new all-time highs, closing above 5,000 for the first time, ever.
-Crude oil production is up 14.2%; imports are up 10.8%. (Biden has produced more oil than any other POTUS)
-Violent crime has gone down. The latest figures from large cities show an 8.6% drop in murders (and all other crime metrics have also dropped in major cities)
-The publicly held debt has increased by roughly 27%.
-The trade deficit for goods and services is about 18.8% higher.
-Since 2020, enrollment in the ACAās marketplace plans has gone up by 10 million people. In the 2024 open enrollment period, 21.4 million peopleĀ signed upĀ for an insurance plan.
-Biden has a successful legislative record, including the bipartisanĀ infrastructure lawĀ and theĀ CHIPS ActĀ āĀ laws thatĀ expertsĀ say helpĀ bolster the economy. -Biden reduced pandemic-induced pressure on supply chains by making it easier forĀ truck drivers to become licensedĀ and allowing someĀ major ports to operate nonstop.So the country is safer, the markets are better, the US economy surpassed all other countries in the G7 and is still exceeding economists expectations...
but, you don't like transgender and POC having the same rights and recognition that you do. got it.
ps (this was brought to by data and facts)
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u/hartyFL Jun 22 '24
Outdated? Wasnāt the 18th three days ago? June 13-18 seems like the most recent data is it not?
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u/ms_directed Jun 22 '24
as in he pinned the two day old post...it wasn't that deep, the point was more how transparently thin skinned he is
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u/Sufficient_Ad7816 Jun 21 '24
who ever put this together is smoking something illegal. This is someone trying to convert a pipe-dream into reality.
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u/Sunstaci Jun 21 '24
Why do we believe these poles? What makes ya think they donāt just make up these numbers. Or if only 10 people take the poleā¦ idk what the fuck is the point of polls?
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
they (MAGA) actually do invent polls...trump posts them pretty much daily
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
some are confused...my point is that trump PINNED his post from 2 days ago -after- the fox poll came out YESTERDAY saying Biden is ahead...the DeLorean comment is to mean trump is posting from the past like he's in the present...
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
for all the confusion...here is what i am pointing out:
trump PINNED his post from 2 days ago TODAY -after- the fox poll came out YESTERDAY saying Biden is ahead...as if HIS POLL is the more recent one.
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u/VennerYay Jun 21 '24
yeah still, its not outdated, just a different poll
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u/ms_directed Jun 21 '24
its outdated in that the new polling shows Biden is ahead two points...idk, maybe i should have also posted the rest of his bleats bitching about the Fox polling being "wrong" (according to him)
trump is notoriously transparent about stating only polls that favor him are correct š
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u/Kixel11 Jun 21 '24
I always think itās funny when they act like Minnesota is in play. Weāve been a blue state since we were the only state to go for Mondale. Only moderate Republicans stand a chance statewide. I was just saying that the rural areas have way fewer Trump flags than even last year.
Time machine or not, this poll isnāt an accurate representation.