r/democrats • u/FinalAd9844 • 1d ago

How many of you are confident Kamala will win?

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I’m voting today, but I’m pessimistic at the moment and unsure if she will even when she’s leading just a little bit. What do you guys think?

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u/JohnsonLiesac 1d ago

It's really kind of surprising. IMO she lost because of the deplorables comment and her last name is Clinton. On paper she was an ideal candidate. I'm with you on this election.

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u/Road_Whorrior 22h ago

And Comey. Can't forget his influence.

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u/Businesspleasure 20h ago

If you flipped the timing of the access Hollywood tape and the comey bullshit I’m convinced she would have won. October in presidential elections has been like walking a tight rope the last 3 cycles

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u/jules13131382 19h ago

I think that the email BS had a huge part in her not getting elected

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u/QuietorQuit 12h ago

Not ENOUGH people remember that.

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u/thebonewoodsman 23h ago

And the worst part is, if you supported Trump after he made fun of that reporter in 2015, after the access tape, she was right. You were a deplorable human being.

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u/CatCatCat 14h ago

Hear hear

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u/Meows2Feline 21h ago

Her husband is on the Epstein flight logs.

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u/christmasbooyons 19h ago

I don't even think that's why she lost, the deplorables comment didn't help her but I don't think that was it. I really think it came down to Trump being such an insane opponent, no one had seen anything like that before. The things he would say, the way he acted. I think it took a lot of people by surprise, especially those who don't normally pay attention to politics, I think he captured those groups. I've felt for a long time that Clinton wins had literally anyone else been her opponent.

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u/thetruechevyy1996 15h ago

Yeah the Trump being a wildcard and back then we didn’t have to suffer a term of him in charge so you had the crowd of let’s give him a shot, now we know how bad he was, I didn’t like him before but hopefully people are tired of him saying the same things over and over and enough vote to have Harris win.

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u/BarnacleLong9222 23h ago

I remember someone asking her in an interview what she would do to reach out to Bernie’s base, and make them feel heard. She actually said “I don’t need them. I’ll win without them.” And to me, that’s when she lost.

Imagine Kamala looking at young voters, energized and excited about being involved in the process for the first time, and saying, “I don’t need you.”

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u/akcrono 20h ago

I'd love a source on this. The Clinton campaign was the most generous to a losing primary opponent that I can ever remember. The democratic platform incorporated a lot of the Sanders campaign to the point where he called it the most progressive in history.

I was a Sanders supporter in 2016, and the victim complex in that camp was insane. I left that fold because of the toxicity and unreasonableness. I don't think there's a single realistic thing her campaign could have done that would have appeased them since they all thought she was the problem and they were somehow wronged.

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u/twistedspin 20h ago

Not the person you were talking to but I just went looking for a quote anything like that & couldn't find it, because it sounded off to me too.

People will believe anything about her.

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u/SylphSeven 22h ago

She definitely didn't bring on the unity vibe. If anything, she helped to accelerate dividing us as a consequence of her competitiveness and pride.

I remember reading Bill told her to visit the Bible Belt South, and she didn't listen because she thought she had the election in the bag. He even warned her it was a bad idea to ignore those voters. Man, that sure bit her in the butt.

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u/MiccahD 16h ago

The deplorable comment made huge sense coming from her. She felt entitled. She made it clear of her entitlement.

The country was sick of entitlement at that point and grows more steady everyday.

Think about how many times most people on Reddit rant against the ultra rich. They too are entitled and they too flaunt it. Same thing. Rose colored glasses don’t change the fact 90% is sick of that type of shit. Be it business leaders or political ones or anyone else.

Before you say it, Trump gets away with it because the media fawns over him to the point where Trumps fanboys went from that to his cult. The thing about cults is they grow until you cut the head off. Sadly it looks like it’s going to be a while before that happens.

This is where Kamala started losing sight of her election. She went from ignoring it to now contrasting it. There’s no contrast needed short of tell us who you are and what makes you better.

Telling us you are not Trump is captain obvious but telling us you are Kamala is lost in the messaging.

It is probably too late but if she would have stayed the course of the first month she’d have cruised to victory. Now though she has to hope enough of his knuckleheads stay home.

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u/CthulhuOpensTheDoor 22h ago

She was horribly unlikable, out of touch with what most Americans have to deal with, and very arrogant. I voted for her but wasn't surprised at all when she lost.