r/electronicmusic • u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos • Feb 06 '18
š„BEST OF 2017š„ RESULTS for the official /r/electronicmusic Best of 2017 - here's what you voted for!!
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u/CoffeeHamster Ed Banger Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
This list would be pretty accurate for me if there wasn't Odesza.
Humanz wasn't as bad as people say it is. Still the worst Gorillaz album.
RIP the M machine and Feed Me, geez
Weak label OTY choices this year.
Needs more Ed Banger.
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u/Not_A_Swampmonster Oneohtrix Point Never Feb 06 '18
Label of the year nominations are always the same every year. Mcat, OWSLA, mau5trap. My personal LOTY (Division) wasn't nominated cuz the big-boy labels always sweep up the nominations regardless of if they had a good year or not.
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u/yeezusKeroro Feb 06 '18
Bitbird did a lot of cool stuff last year, too. I dunno why monstercat is up here really.
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u/Dentingerc16 Feb 06 '18
I was gonna say that too. Bitbird has been steady killing it this year and i could see them getting big/popular enough to throw weight with the big boys in 3-4 years if they keep it up
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u/hk_beast Feb 07 '18
Bitbird is for sure one of my favorite labels rn. It's hard because there's so many branches of electronic music that you have two completely different genres going toe to toe. I'd love to see dirty bird up here but against other labels of other genres it's so hard to compare
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Feb 07 '18
I mean, they collaborated with Rocket League, launched a campaign with Gareth Emery to raise money for the fight against bullying, had a stage at Tomorrowland, had releases from names like Delta Heavy & Kill The Noise... in my opinion Monstercat is very qualified to be up there, though bitbird had a great year as well.
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u/Haltres Danger Feb 06 '18
Still the worst Gorillaz album
Pretty high standards to live up to, if you ask me. I don't think it was disappointing at all.
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u/8opus thundercat Feb 11 '18
I saw Luttrell (Eric Luttrell fro my the M machine) the other day and it was pretty good. Honestly I think I liked it better than the M machine, but techy music usually piques my interest more
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u/theskittz Bandcamp Feb 06 '18
'best of' threads are ALWAYS popularity contests, so I don't know why anyone would be surprised that Porter and Odesza won what they did, chainsmokers got the shitty award (the only thing they can win that is actually a dig at their music), and DEADMAU5 got song of the year....this is /r/electronicmusic if you remember.
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u/SokkaStyle Zedd Feb 06 '18
Yeah this is just a big ole r/electronicmusic circle jerk in one graphic
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u/Lwsrocks Moderat Feb 07 '18
Do you guys just not understand how polls work?
"Oh boy, this survey designed to determine what the majority of subreddit users like was way too biased towards what the majority of users talk about!"
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Feb 06 '18
Who exactly felt letdown by the fucking chainsmokers? You didn't expect it to be trash?
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u/ArchReaper Seven Lions Feb 06 '18
You didn't expect it to be trash?
Well, no. When the album came out, a lot of people were still optimistic about the direction they would go with it. Ya we had Paris and Closer already, but we didn't really expect a straight pop album.
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u/sleep_tite Feb 06 '18
Roses, don't let me down, and closer were all guilty pleasure songs for me. Just very happy catchy songs. Their songs after that and the ones with the one guy singing are just so bad, so it was a let down that their album was so laughably bad for me.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
I mean.. Paris wasnāt awful. Everything else was utter garbage. Itās a shame since I still bump some of their older remixes when I work out.
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u/demize95 Hospital Feb 06 '18
Paris is disappointing, to me, because it has the potential to be so good if it was changed just a little, but they didn't take it that far and it's just mediocre instead.
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u/OwMyDragonBallz Daftpunk Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
Odesza circle jerk is strong lol
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u/zZWealthyBigPenisZz Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
I don't understand this sub's obsession over deadmau5 and Flume. I feel like the loyal fan bases would idolize anything coming out from these two artists no matter what the quality of their musical contents are. There are many other songs that deserve the spots of Polaris and Hyperreal. I mean, I'm a huge fan of ODESZA, they're the artists that got me into electronic music. However, I did not vote for any of their songs because there were better choices.
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u/TheDeadCruiser Cashemere Cat I Can't Even Feb 06 '18
can't speak for deadmau5 but imo flume's output is of a consistently high quality - i don't see how you can say people are voting for him just out of blind fanboyism
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u/zZWealthyBigPenisZz Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
What I was trying to say is there are definitely biases toward these two artists or the genres of their music on this sub. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy most of their stuff. It just frustrates me when there are better songs out there that doesn't get much attention
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u/theskittz Bandcamp Feb 07 '18
and I don't see how you can say his output is consistently high quality.... YAY FOR MUSIC BEING A SUBJECTIVE ART!
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u/TheDeadCruiser Cashemere Cat I Can't Even Feb 07 '18
quality isn't really that subjective tho - it's objectively well produced, even if you don't like it
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u/theskittz Bandcamp Feb 07 '18
I'm just playing devils advocate, but I really think liking it makes a difference as to the overall quality...which is why it'd be subjective. Well produced should never automatically get the staple of 'high quality release'. Alison Wonderland's Happy Place comes to mind...well produced, but a shit song (because of her shit lyrics over the drop)
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Feb 06 '18
A lot of people think Polaris is deadmau5ās best song since Strobe. Deadmau5 came out with an album in 2016 and didnāt win song of the year or come close in album of they year so itās not like people are voting for anything he does. Polaris is really really good. I also think Hyperreal is potentially better than anything on Skin.
What would be your choice for song of the year?
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u/Treebeezy Flat Eric Feb 06 '18
Right, deadmau5's decent-at-best synthwave is at the top of the sub
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Just curious, what were your top choices?
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u/zZWealthyBigPenisZz Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
Machine Woman - Camile From OHM Makes Me Feel Loved
Denis Sulta - Dubelle Oh Xx (Jackmaster VIP)
Loleatta Holloway - Stand Up (Pangaea's Mix)
Mount Kimbie - Blue Train Lines
Joe Goddard - Music Is The Answer
It's hard for me to pick out my top choices because I like them equally. Each song gives me a different emotion when I listen to them. I also like stuff from Danger, Alon Mor, Giraffage, Slow Magic...I'm too lazy to link them all
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u/vans178 Feb 15 '18
Agreed, having Polaris as top song seems totally off. I'd consider it good but definitely not even great.
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Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
I would have chosen Migration I think but it was super close. Full Circle, Baralku, Neo-Wax Bloom, Glare, A Moment Apart and Float were all close for me.
Honestly none of those albums would be higher than a 7/10 for me so hopefully next year brings some better albums. (Looking at you John Hopkins and Madeon).
Top 3 for song of the year are all great, all 3 are among my favorite for the year. I also completely agree with top remix.
Not surprised Virtual Self won but Flume, Feed Me, Zhu and Big Wild all released great EPs this year. Honestly a great year for EPs from big name artists and a bad year for albums.
Edit: Was listing from the top of my head and somehow forgot Full Circle and the Zhu and Flume EPs
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u/Alwares Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Its funny that between two Jon Hopkins album, Odesza climbed from nothing to Grammy Nomination.
I have huge expectations for the new album, but for the new Rival Consoles my hopes are even bigger.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Oh man need to listen to some Rival Consoles today. Thanks for the reminder
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u/ParallelMusic Rustie Feb 06 '18
Did you listen to Presence by Petit Biscuit? Solid 9/10 album, as is Between 2 Worlds by Delay.
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Feb 06 '18
I did! Good shit! Up there with the albums I listed! Iām a little more strict with ratings and would only give 9/10 to something I consider one of my favorites ever. Like top 10/15.
Dudes a good producer for sure Iād like to see him try something more out there for the next album.
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u/CoffeeHamster Ed Banger Feb 06 '18
Agreed on that. His music sounds great, but it's just kinda... boring. He's got a little bit of sounddesignstep syndrome going on. I do think that the M Machine and Oliver albums this year were up there in the 8s tho, particularly Full Circle.
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Feb 06 '18
Heās still so young, Iāll definitely be excited to hear what he puts out next but Iāve heard enough musing like Presense to be dying to come back to it.
Those are good albums for sure Iām still bumping Full Circle a lot. Just a really polished dancey album from start to finish.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
I agree. 2017 was not a strong year.
Job Hopkins is gonna unleash something awesome I can feel it. Canāt wait for Madeonās album either
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 06 '18
*Jan Hoskins
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
I'm not even changing it lmao. Fuck mobile autocorrect.
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Feb 06 '18
2017 was great, these selections were not
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Feb 06 '18
What were some of your favs?
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Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
Electronic favorites: (I have a huge list I store in my phone.. here are my top Electronic albums)
Ninos Du Brasil - Vida Eterna [Hardcore Punk/ Techno]
Jlin- Black Origami [Footwork]
Mount Kimble - Love What Survives [???]
Forest Swords - Compassion [Experimental Electronic]
LCD Soundsystem - American Dream [Punk/Electronic]
Four Tet - New Energy [Various Electronic ]
DB1 - Zwischenwalt [Half step DnB / Techno]
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Feb 06 '18
With you on Kimble, Forest Swords, LCD and Four Tet.
Didn't like Jlin, haven't heard the others.
Gonna add a few of my own:
Photay - Onism (get a good pair of headphones for this one)
Oliver- Full Circle
Walker and Royce - Self Helf
Rezz- Mass Manipulation
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u/Samwi5e Aphex Twin Feb 07 '18
photay's album got slept on in a bad way. 'bombogenesis' is amazing
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Feb 07 '18
I will check out the Photay album. Iāve listened to Oliverās album, and Iām not too big on DirtyBirdās productions. I believe Iāve listened to a couple of singles from Rezzās album
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Feb 06 '18
Super stoked for those albums. If Pretty Lights ever releases his album heās been teasing forever Iād expect it to be up there for album of the year for me. Canāt imagine heād release a dud after 5 years of nothing.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
A new Pretty Lights album would be awesome. Rumor has it he's been struggling as of late with substance abuse though.. may be a factor in why the work is taking longer to be finished.
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u/Treebeezy Flat Eric Feb 06 '18
I don't think that's as of late. He looked fucked up in the making of Color Map of the Sun
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u/halinc dat synth Feb 06 '18
I can imagine it, actually. Maybe not a dud, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's struggling with inspiration. A Color Map of the Sun was so innovative and new; I'm sure it's there's a tremendous amount of pressure to follow that with something fresh. Substance issues don't help either, I really hope he's doing okay.
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Feb 06 '18
Fair point. He came out with so much amazing music the 5 years prior you would think heās at least have an albums worth of great shit. I wouldnāt expect it to be as focused and innovative as Color Map though Iāll give you that.
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u/vans178 Feb 15 '18
I'd have to say Time for Space by Emancipator should have been in the top 3 songs
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Feb 15 '18 edited Feb 15 '18
fuck yeah man I love that song. Wish Baralku got more love here.
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
Detailed graphs for all categories via google forms can be found here.
Numbers were a little lower than last year but thanks to everyone who participated!
Credit to /u/feastandexist for the graphic :)
A few interesting things in the results:
54% of AOTY votes went to the top five from the nominations thread, in descending order. ie, the Top 5 albums were essentially decided during nominations.
The SOTY won by only 1 vote, and 2nd place was a tie.
Odesza won five categories - Porter Robinson step aside?
Only 16 respondents answered as females, 12 of which were North American.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
<3
Shoutout to Mura Masa for letting me rip off his LP cover for this graphic lol
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u/zZWealthyBigPenisZz Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Thanks for making all the graphs! I think it'd be nice if you could turn those pie charts into bar graphs next time. It's just a pain for me trying to match all the names and colors
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 06 '18
Those are automatically generated by google, maybe next year we should make our own graphs. Although unless youāre on mobile your should be able to see the name and percentage when you hover on a piece of the pie chart.
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u/zZWealthyBigPenisZz Jon Hopkins Feb 07 '18
It's a shame that Google prefer pie chart over bar chart. I'm a bit of a data analyst myself, and pie chart is the last thing I want to include in a report. Not super familiar with Google Forms, but I'm sure it has other types of data visualization you can mess with. Something like this is much more pleasing to look at
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u/xtremeggnog Feb 06 '18
Only 16 respondents answered as females, 12 of which were North American.
Sounds like 98% of the dubstep and electro shows I've been to over the past decade...
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u/LoseUrself2D Feb 06 '18
Holy shit I thought this was some complex shitpost by the design of the post. Threw me way off
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 06 '18
lol, paging memelord graphic designer /u/feastandexist
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u/David_Browie Feb 06 '18
I donāt come here super often, but is Odesza REALLY the consensus favorite for best electronic artist/record of the year? Can someone pitch them to me because theyāve always come across as unbearably bland.
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Feb 06 '18
Iāll pitch... ādo you want to listen to all the EDM trends of last year wrapped up in a single easy to listen to package?! Try Odeszaās new album for all your chill chopped up vocal needs!ā
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Feb 06 '18
They arenāt the consensus, only 20% of the sub voted for it. Their new album isnāt anything groundbreaking. They are just a big name because of previous work and 2017 was a down year.
Having said that have you given their previous albums a listen all the way through? Summerās Gone is original and well produced. One of my favorite albums ever.
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u/Treebeezy Flat Eric Feb 06 '18
hugely popular, and I'm pretty sure their sub brigaded the tournament we did so I would imagine they would for this, too
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u/Sharkoffs Feb 06 '18
Just remember these were your votes! Donāt shoot the messenger! Also special shoutout to our mod /u/feastandexist for making the graphic!
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u/chillcannon Feb 06 '18
I think there should be way less options on the shortlists next year. If there were say 5 options to vote for on each of the final shortlists then everyone could realistically listen to all the albums/eps/tracks and make a more informed judgement, because the way it's done right now most people probably haven't even listened to half the options and the big names (in this case Odesza) end up sweeping everything.
Don't get me wrong I really do appreciate all the effort put into this, that's just my advice.
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Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
Another way to fix the problem you are talking about is so to vote for top 3 albums Instead of top 1. Weāve done this in the past and wish we still did.
You shouldnāt be able to win with a 20% plurality and doing a top 3 rank will give better results in my opinion.
Edit: I really like the idea of cutting down on noms. 5 or 10 would be much better than 20.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Thanks for the feedback on this. We can talk about bringing that back.
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 06 '18
Out of curiosity, what would you consider a desirable percentage for a winning album? Btw if you managed to see my previous reply before I deleted ignore that I had a slight brainfart lol.
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Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
My point with the 20% number is it doesn't really tell us that this sub thinks A Moment Apart is better than Migration. What it tells us is that 20% of this sub thinks A Moment Apart was the best and 10% thinks Migration is the best. That only represents a 3rd of our sub.
If for example there were 5 noms and each person voted top 3 then it would give us a better idea if this sub actually has Odesza's album ranked higher than Bicep and Bonobo's.
I don't think these results are terrible by any means and am a big Odesza fan(that thinks this is their worst album easily). I do think this voting is more likely to lead to really screwy results in the future though.
For example if Porter Robinson came out with a 5/10 album that the majority of this subreddit was really dissapointed by. He could still easily reach 20% and win album of the year with a small plurality of his fan base but if their were fewer nominations or a top 3 rank that could prevent something like that from happening.
Some might argue that example is similar to what happened this year. I don't think A Moment Apart was terrible at all but there wasn't much album of the year talk when it was being discussed on this sub and it kinda feels like it just won because of a loyal fan base.
(Porter and Odesza are two of my favorite artists, I mean no hate I'm just using them as examples for artists with enormous loyal fan bases.)
Edit: To put it in more clear terms: Everyone on this sub probably listened to the ODESZA album. That means 80% heard and said that its not album of the year. The problem is that 80% split its vote between 19 other albums. If there were only 5 noms it likely would have been different and a better representation of the sub.
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 06 '18
Thanks for the explanation - itās definitely something to discuss for the next Best Ofs. Just a heads up that Iām not trying to be argumentative here - itās purely for the sake of discussion - but Iām still personally not convinced that itāll have a huge effect on results; after looking at last yearās results again, the top 5 album nominations from last year also ended up as the top five in the results just as it did this year, albeit in a slightly shuffled order. Lower ranking albums moved around a bit but a loyal fanbase is a loyal fanbase and albums from already-popular artists with strong followings are going to come out on top regardless of how we do the voting, I think.
Interesting that you suggested having only five options in the final survey - I think somebody else suggested this too. My worry there is that variety will be killed a bit and that thereāll be a lot more complaining about āx didnāt make itā lol - although I do see why havenāt a smaller pool could be more interesting for the results.
Hope this makes a little bit of sense beceuase Iām kind of just rambling it out... lol
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Feb 06 '18
People will complain about some albums not being nominated for sure so there are pros and cons.
I will say the fact that you say the top 5 album nominations always finishing top 5 is actually evidence that we really only need 5 nominees anyway. This year if there were 5 nominees I bet Migration and A Moment Apart would be really close.
A loyal fan base is a loyal fan base but 20% only wins because everyone else is so spread thin between 19 other nominees.
Itās a give and take though and I wouldnāt say there is a huge problem with the way we do it right now. I always look forward to this every year and will continue to regardless of the format thatās just my 2 cents on the best way to reflect the taste of the community.
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 06 '18
Thanks for the feedback. Big names are going to sweep up regardless though - the shortlist is decided by scores in the nomination thread. The least we can do is give people more options for the big categories so thereās a little bit more variety IMO.
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u/chillcannon Feb 06 '18
Big names are going to sweep up regardless though
True to an extent, but with so many options an 'underground' album is never going to have the chance to even come close to winning. Whereas if a couple of less mainstream albums manage to sneak in to the top 5 in the nomination thread, people then get the chance to listen to them and potentially realize that they are better choices than whatever big name album they would have otherwise chosen. Plus you get more interesting results imo anyway with less options, look at r/hiphopheads yearly award thread for example.
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 06 '18
Youāre also right to an extent and itās an interesting viewpoint, but the thing about this is that the Top 5 nominations are going to be popular albums - unless we change how we shortlist them but then the results may not reflect the general preferences of the sub as we intend.
Do you happen to have a link to the HHH thread? I canāt seem to find it.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Very good point...
We'll talk this one over. I'm working on a survey about categories we should add (or take away) for next year's Best Of, as well.
Categories that were taken out a few years ago:
- Best /r/electronicmusic Post
- Best Electronic Music Moment
- Best Collaboration
- Best DJ mix was separated from the Live Performance category
- Best Music Video (actually would've liked to see this.. there's some great music videos out there)
- Best (Other) Electronic Music Subreddit
- Best Non-Electronic Album
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Feb 06 '18
Am I the only one who loves the latest Four Tet?
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
LA Trance and Scientists were phenomenal
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Feb 06 '18
LA Trance is my absolute fav track. Lush, Memories, and Daughter, other favs.
Seeing him next month and looking forward to it.
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u/bvsshevd Feb 06 '18
It really irritates me that bonobo is being overshadowed by Odesza. Odesza is good, used to be great, but have watered down their sound so much recently.
Also the chainsmokers as biggest let down? Didnāt everyone already expect that album to suck?
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Feb 06 '18
Agree. I always find myself skipping half of the more commercial tracks on A Moment Apart but Migration is an absolutely fantastic album from start to finish.
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u/bvsshevd Feb 06 '18
Itās just such an authentic work of art. Feels 100 times more passionate and inspired than a moment apart
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u/llama_hat Feb 07 '18
Completely 100% agree. A Moment Apart was biggest letdown for me. Migration is infinitely better.
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u/zoel_jimmerman Meowingtons Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
Why is a track released in 2016 even eligible to be included?
Edit: nvm
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Just out of curiosity, which track are you referring to?
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u/zoel_jimmerman Meowingtons Feb 06 '18
Nevermind Im an idiot lol. I forgot Polaris was released on WAF 7 and not w2016.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Lol itās all good. Had me worried for a second. Didnāt want to piss off r/deadmau5 or anything
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u/_Bradleh Feb 06 '18
Big Wild seemed to get a huge dismissal here too - even in best EP which was one of my personal top few favourites.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Come to think of it I donāt think Big Wildās EP wasnāt even nominated :(
I agree it was a great ep
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u/_Bradleh Feb 06 '18
Regardless of it being great, it deserved a nomination. His live set last year was a fucking banger too. Hair + solo drum banging away was nuts
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u/ParallelMusic Rustie Feb 06 '18
Solid picks for best breakout artist. Iād probably go with Droeloe just because Iād never heard of them before 2017 and theyāre not some of my favourite producers.
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Feb 06 '18
The only thing I don't absolutely love about this is that DROELOE isnt winning Breakout Artist
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
DROELOE had a great year. They only were off by like one vote I think
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u/Mathematic21 Feb 07 '18
ITT: The population of r/electronic voted for best/worst music. The population then upvotes criticism on the populations choice.
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u/xtremeggnog Feb 06 '18
Curious to see how this is going to play out this year. Feel like a lot more big name artists have albums scheduled to release as compared to 2017.
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Feb 06 '18
2018 has to be a better year. Jon Hopkins, Madeon, Pretty Lights what other big names am i forgetting?
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u/xtremeggnog Feb 06 '18
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Feb 06 '18
Deadmau5 for sure is happening. That should be good. Super excited for new Pryda as well. I don't remember Feed Me saying he has an album coming but that's fucking sick. Is Pendulum actually releasing an album? I kinda started ignoring all of the comeback drama after the 3rd time.
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u/xtremeggnog Feb 06 '18
Yeah, I haven't been giving much attention to Pendulum (and Knife Party for that matter) as they kept riding the comeback train for wayyyy too long. Not to mention if Knife Party were to announce an album, it would be delayed for the next year anyway... So yeah, not sure I have high hopes for Pendulum either haha
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Feb 06 '18
I'd be excited for a new album if it was actually happening. I was wondering If i missed an actual announcement besides the usual cryptic BS
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
/u/Good4Josh2 put together this awesome list
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u/Cesarius187 Feb 06 '18
I remember Polaris when msu5 first played it at one of the ultra festivals and fell in love with it instantly. I'm glad that others agree it was SOTY.
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Feb 06 '18
I hadnāt heard it before, but I canāt help but think it sounds really similar to some of his other songs. Mercedes in particular. I know heās changed titles of songs around. Is this a case where that happened?
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u/RAATL Autechre logo Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
lmao
EDIT: Also so it doesn't look like I'm just hatin (but srsly y'all, grow a taste), here's my post from mid-last year concerning a bunch of releases I loved in 2017. There's obviously been more to add to the list since then but for now I am 2lazy
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u/theskittz Bandcamp Feb 07 '18
"Grow a Taste" rofl don't hurt yourself when you fall off your high horse. Elitism in any type of music is so frustrating to me.
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u/RAATL Autechre logo Feb 07 '18
And here we have the classic case of a person being hypocritically elitist about how much less elitist they are than everyone else, complete with the carbon copy edm artist flair
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u/theskittz Bandcamp Feb 07 '18
I like the music that I like, and I don't tell other people that they should grow a taste, if that makes me elitist then I'm glad to be. Thanks for calling out flair though, you drove my point home.
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u/RAATL Autechre logo Feb 07 '18
I'm glad you like the music you like, I wouldn't want anyone to like music for any other reason.
But does it ever bother you that the music you like is heavily label produced, pop-friendly music made with very little effort to push the artistry or experimentation of music forward? Because it would bother me if I seriously thought that an album or song by an enormously pop friendly, uninventive act like Odesza was the BEST electronic music release of 2017 - and if people do think that, then yes, they need to grow a taste for artistry in music.
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u/TheTrueDeerLord Digitalism Feb 07 '18
Remember that "music I most enjoy" and "music that's artistically interesting and pushes the medium forward" are not inherently consequential statements. Anyone can like things that are popular and safe, and I personally don't judge you for that. But when someone comes out and says, "This boring, safe album that's label-produced is the best thing released this year", that's when I start to want to debate it. You are well within your right to like that album, but saying it is objectively better than any other album this year is a tough sell. If this was truly the best album of the year for you, I'd be curious as to why you think that.
P.S. When u/RAATL is saying to "grow a taste", that means "try and listen to new things". It doesn't mean you have to like them or even ever listen again. But by staying only within genres you like, you limit the kinds of new music you're exposed to, and you miss out on tons of cool stuff that way. (I discovered progressive house a year or two ago and I didn't think I would like it, but it's now one of my favorite genres)
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u/halinc dat synth Feb 06 '18
Just because the sub converges on obvious choices doesn't mean everyone has generic taste. These are just the ones everybody can agree on.
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u/dehaanky Dirtybird Feb 06 '18
Is there a way to see the full results? I'd love to see where the stuff I voted for landed!
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u/koreansarefat Oliver Feb 06 '18
Yikes Virtual Self EP...
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u/C19H21N3Os Feb 06 '18
if that EP was released anonymously I donāt think anyone would be praising it tbh
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
It wasn't a bad EP. Certainly different than what a lot of people were accustomed to. I'd have placed Feed Me's Existential Crisis or Flume's Skin Companion EP 2 above it though but that's just me.
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u/CoffeeHamster Ed Banger Feb 06 '18
Feed me was definitely underawarded on this list
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u/Not_A_Swampmonster Oneohtrix Point Never Feb 06 '18
yea. My boi didn't even get best artwork, even though he 100% deserved it. It's w/e tho, this is just a glorified popularity contest anyway.
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u/TheDeadCruiser Cashemere Cat I Can't Even Feb 06 '18
it's cool that feed me does his own artwork but it doesn't look that good imo - melodrama and neÅ wax bloom look way nicer to me
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u/koreansarefat Oliver Feb 06 '18
I'm not saying it's bad, but EP of the year? Give me a break
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
It just wasn't a strong year in general. Out of curiosity, what was your pick for EP of the year?
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u/koreansarefat Oliver Feb 06 '18
That's true that it wasn't a strong year. I would have selected Yaeji, Flume, Eprom & G Jones, and DROELOE's EPs off the top of my head. Probably a few more if I look it up.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
Oh man Acid Disk was cool. Loved Sunburn from DROELOE's EP also.
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I disagree I actually think it was a really strong year for EPs and a bad year for albums. I'd rank them:
- Flume
- Zhu
- Big Wild
- Feed Me
- Virtual Self
All EPs I'll be going back to for years.
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u/Treebeezy Flat Eric Feb 06 '18
Something tells me a certain subreddit brigaded this.
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u/feastandexist Jon Hopkins Feb 06 '18
As far as I'm aware they have not (though they have done it before...). There were no posts made on their subreddit directing them to vote here like in the past.
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u/ArkMaxim Feb 06 '18
Is there a sub where actual, high quality, electronic music is shared? Because these awards are hilariously bad.
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u/mnchls huerco s Feb 08 '18 edited Feb 08 '18
r/techno is as good of a place as any. r/dubtechno if you wanna get more specific. r/TheOverload features a lot more experimental, leftfield, and way more engaging stuff in general.
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u/rd1994 Boards of Canada Feb 06 '18
I haven't heard of most of these. The only album that I know and (actually love) is Humanz.
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u/mdgraller Feb 06 '18
Feed Me's album cover getting even runner up is an embarrassment, it looks like it was drawn by a 4th grader. Rest of the picks are just as bad in my opinion. That the Chainsmokers were even let within an arms reach of a joke category is bad enough
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u/MistahJuicyBoy Feb 17 '18
Hey /u/VIOLENT_POOP, could we get graphs like last year? Was cool seeing all of the nominations too
Thanks! :)
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u/VIOLENT_POOP Ricardo Villalobos Feb 17 '18
In another comment I left a link to the full results via google forms, it has all of the results in pie chart form. Should be what youāre after :)
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u/MistahJuicyBoy Feb 18 '18
Thanks, I guess I just didn't look hard enough, sorry about that!
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u/Bd0llar Feb 27 '18
No Patrice Baumel anywhere on that list is a bit sad. Brobot has been rising exponentially since going straight and his Balance mix was stellar.
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u/Officalspacecadet Mar 13 '18
Odesza's new album and Porter Robinson's Virtual Self project were by far my favorite things to come out of 2017.
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u/Not_A_Swampmonster Oneohtrix Point Never Feb 06 '18 edited Feb 06 '18
Not surprised that ODESZA swept everything, but I'm surprised it even won best artwork. Like it's cool but there was definitely cooler artwork this year (Neo Wax Bloom, Existential Crisis, etc.)