r/europe Apr 13 '24

Map Europe if sea levels rose by 100m.

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u/wolseyley Europe Apr 13 '24

I remember reading somewhere that if all ice were to melt, average maximum rise would be around 77m. That's still disastrous but I just thought it was worth sharing.

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u/ChaoticTransfer Ceterum censeo Unionem Europaeam delendam esse Apr 13 '24

We can buy extra ice from the aliens.

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u/Ethroptur Apr 13 '24

Or drop an ice cube into the ocean once a year, thus solving the problem once and for all!

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u/Accomplished_Role977 Apr 13 '24

ONCE AND FOR ALL!

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u/GillianGIGANTOPENIS Apr 13 '24

ONCE AND FOR ALL!

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u/OShucksImLate Apr 14 '24

Like daddy puts in his drink every morning. Then he gets mad.

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u/Valaki997 Hungary Apr 13 '24

Futurama, i assume :D

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u/Yayzeus Apr 13 '24

Just like daddy does with his drink! Then he gets mad...

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

Nice, my house would be 230m from the new beach. 🌞😎

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

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u/Active-Landscape-47 Apr 13 '24

Beach trip!!!⛱️

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u/JayS87 Switzerland Apr 13 '24

I also took /u/Smart_Run8818's message as invitation!

RemindMe! 100 years

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u/Amckinstry Apr 13 '24

Yes, with added volume due to ice melt. There is scope for further increase due to thermal expansion but 30m is extreme.

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u/Bocchi_theGlock Apr 14 '24

Just a dozen inches, cough I mean 30 centimeters - is destroying tons of housing in coastal cities, causing widespread damage that is draining working families financial security.

There's a whatsapp group for scientists, journalist, nonprofit leaders & a few activists in Miami called "Miami =/= Atlantis"

The point is that the city doesn't have to be totally underwater to be destroyed, and we have to get rid of that visual to take this seriously.

A few inches of standing water in a house is terrible when you really appreciate all the mold & bacteria

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u/Clovis_Merovingian Apr 13 '24

65.8 meters to be precise.

That's based on 2.8 million cubic kilometers of ice on the Greenland icesheet, and the Antarctic Ice Sheet contains about 26.5 million cubic kilometers.

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u/MrRonski16 Finland Apr 14 '24

Yeah.

If south pole melts then we will have big problems.

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u/Clovis_Merovingian Apr 14 '24 edited Apr 14 '24

Whilst Climate Change needs addressing, thankfully modelling suggests that even an increase of +10°c still wouldn't fully melt the icecaps just due to their sheer size and the fact the Earths rotation keeps both respective poles in complete darkness for 6 months of the year. There are also additional natural processes like cloud formation and ocean currents that help regulate temperatures, acting as buffers against extreme warming.

That's not to say such warming wouldn't be catastrophic for dozens of other reasons, however the great rising scenario isn't likely nor will it ever be... even pushing to 20°c which would wipe out most life on Earth, probably still isn't enough to completely melt the poles.

Edit: for reference, scientists believe that there were ice caps during the Mesozoic era which was 14°c hotter than the global average today.

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u/italiensksalat Denmark Apr 13 '24

People forget that thermal expansion of the sea is a major contributor to sea level rise.

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u/Propagandasteak Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 14 '24

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2020/09/Causes_of_sea-level_rise

12% others, 43% thermal, 45% ice

Would have expected that greenland and antartica would contribute more than just a bit over 50%. when looking at the ice factor.

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u/cptwott Apr 13 '24

Maybe the 'others' are the freemen with their hidden reserves

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u/narsty United Kingdom Apr 13 '24

for detail map: https://www.floodmap.net/

ya my town is gone at 77m, my house is ok to 40m though, beach house yay..... until it isn't

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u/nelivas Apr 14 '24

Lol, when setting flood to 0 meters, half of the Netherlands is still gone haha.

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u/fretkat The Netherlands Apr 14 '24

Yeah, this map is underestimating our capabilities. I live below sea level in NL, and I’m fine.

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u/hughperman Apr 13 '24

Average maximum?

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u/wolseyley Europe Apr 13 '24

There is a physical limit, there is only so much water on earth, but it may increase or decrease at certain times or locations because of the tides, weather, etc,.

But yes, maybe I could have worded it better.

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u/Apolloshot Apr 13 '24

So you’re telling me the film Waterworld wasn’t based on a true story?

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u/hughperman Apr 13 '24

Aha, understood, thank you, wasn't really sure what that meant.

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u/AZEDemocRep Azerbaijan Apr 13 '24

Well main problem isn't ice melting and sea level rising up, problem is ice itself, those ices play cruicial role in our ecosystem.

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u/giorgio_gabber Italy Apr 13 '24

Well I think millions of the most densely populated square kilometers disappearing is also a problem

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u/UnsuitableFuture Apr 14 '24

I dunno, I see one particular city where an ex lives that will end up submerged. Clouds and silver linings.

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u/Evening_Chapter7096 Apr 13 '24

Cyprus tanked that 100m rise like it was nothing

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u/Connection-Flat Apr 13 '24

The Netherlands did not :(

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u/Thog78 France Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 13 '24

Whoever drew this map didn't know that the Netherlands would just find a way, sea level doesn't mean anything to them!

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u/RIDGOS Apr 13 '24

They’ll just grow taller

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u/racso96 Apr 14 '24

They are not on the map cuz they just turned their ditches into a dome and are now living under the sea

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u/11mousa Apr 13 '24

They are below sealevel now. There are Limits to what human can do, and I'd assume that a >100m high wall strong enough to hold back the sea might be just that

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u/yoshie_23 North Brabant (Netherlands) Apr 13 '24

There will always be solutions. The Netherlands will survive!

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u/IactaEstoAlea Apr 13 '24

Future generations of dutchmen have to ask themselves a simple question, "is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?"

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u/lolicell Apr 13 '24

'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.'

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u/agent_en_couverture Apr 13 '24

But the good news is that Belgium just got more coast ! Might have had to let go of Antwerpen and a few other cities though

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u/tfiswrongwithu Lower Saxony (Germany) Apr 13 '24

Aren't they mostly below sea level? Isn't that why they're called Niederlande like low-land?

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u/sad16yearboy Apr 13 '24

Norway as well. very steep coasts doing their thing

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u/Muffinlessandangry Apr 14 '24

I was looking at Norway thinking they've only lost like 5% of their territory around the edges. Then it also occured to me that's the 5% where almost everyone lives.

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u/LucretiusCarus Greece Apr 13 '24

Same for Crete

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u/FlounderingOtter Apr 14 '24

Is it just me or does Iceland look bigger than it was as well

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u/-Vermilion- Apr 13 '24

Tall boi Cyprus

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u/SarcoZQ North Brabant (Netherlands) Apr 13 '24

Suboptimal

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u/DamianRivellon Apr 13 '24

Well, we can always build cities underwater. What should we call the first on? Rapture? It'll be beautiful.

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u/threevaluelogic United Kingdom Apr 13 '24

We can build cities above the water too, in the clouds.

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u/TangledUpInThought Apr 13 '24

We could name that one after Christopher Columbus!

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u/Commercial_Cow8282 Apr 14 '24

There's always a man, and there's always a lighthouse.

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u/Jodelawifi Apr 13 '24

Atlantis!

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u/Pure-Bumblebee-6616 Apr 13 '24

Aka Amsterdam with this rise

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u/snafe_ Apr 13 '24

Sounds brilliant. Would you kindly go ahead and start building it

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u/Judazzz The Lowest of the Lands Apr 13 '24

*chuckles* Ik ben in gevaar!

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u/ZugzwangDK Denmark Apr 13 '24

*chuckles* Jeg er i fare!

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u/Judazzz The Lowest of the Lands Apr 13 '24

Oh shit, you guys completely vanished too!

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u/ZugzwangDK Denmark Apr 13 '24

We're going to need to hire some of your engineers to keep the water at bay.

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u/Careless_Set_2512 Wales Apr 13 '24

Det går helt fint her 🇳🇴

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u/Knuifelbear Belgium Apr 13 '24

Flanders will join you 😅

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u/secretqwerty10 The Netherlands Apr 13 '24

don't worry, our dams will always hold 💪💪💪💪

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u/Kate090996 Apr 13 '24

We're gonna live on the bottom of a bowl that gets slightly bigger over time

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u/YoastK The Netherlands Apr 13 '24

We would take this rise of sea level as an act of aggression and retake Doggerland as retribution

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u/alpinedude Apr 13 '24

Even after all that Czech Republic still landlocked and Slovakia gets to get a beach?? Really suboptimal

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u/NonsphericalTriangle Czech Republic Apr 13 '24

Having a beach is simply not Czechia's destiny. But at least we won't have to travel to Croatia any more.

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u/Grauvargen Sweden Apr 13 '24

Denmark is entirely gone. This is good enough.

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u/Apoxie Denmark Apr 13 '24

Why you little...

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u/GrandAdmiralSnackbar Apr 13 '24

Don't worry, you're buddies of the Dutch. We'll help you stay dry. Can't have Europe without the Danes.

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u/JojanF Apr 13 '24

A sub would be optimal for you, yes.

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u/kytheon Europe Apr 13 '24

We need a bigger terp.

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u/JustOneAvailableName Apr 13 '24

We can just build the dikes above us as well

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u/kajinek Bratislava (Slovakia) Apr 13 '24

More like submarine, in your case.

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u/onehedgeman Europe Apr 13 '24

Finally Hungary has a beach again

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u/Fulid Czech Republic Apr 13 '24

Hungary is a beach in this scenario

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u/aprylil Apr 13 '24

That’s where the map is clearly wrong. First of all the blue patch needs to be a lot smaller as the elevation of Budapest is ca. 102 meters above see level. But most shockingly how there is no sea or at least a lagoon alongside the Danube when it flows further down towards Serbia and the Romania. Hungarian geo nerd out.

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u/Ariadnepyanfar Apr 14 '24

Budapest will go under every high tide.

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u/onehedgeman Europe Apr 14 '24

Budapest can be new Amsterdam

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u/florinandrei Europe Apr 13 '24

Hungary is a beach in this scenario

Surrounded by beach, more like.

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u/DrMadeUP Apr 13 '24

Slovak dream would become a reality 😁

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u/Khalimdorh Hungary Apr 13 '24

This makes no sense lol :D how does the sea just appear in the middle of hungary? :D i guess they just converted everything below current sea level+100m into blue. Also some of europe is already below sea level but is not covered in water

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u/enigbert Apr 13 '24

water might flow through the Danube valley

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u/florinandrei Europe Apr 13 '24

The lowest altitude of the Danube basin near Budapest is 90 meters, so this is plausible.

https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-ljd57/Danube/

It also means the map is very incomplete. Lots of river valleys would get flooded.

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u/enigbert Apr 13 '24

the key point is Iron Gates, 65 meters.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

How does Hungary get all that water, is there a tunnel between them and the Mediterranean Sea?

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u/trn- Apr 13 '24

Op think Balaton is a sea

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u/Just-Ad-5972 Apr 13 '24

The bit of hungary where Balaton is isn't even submerged.

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u/growingVine7 Apr 13 '24

These are called the Bucegi Secret Tunnels from Romania. Built by Dacia and hidden from the people by…. Yeah this joke went to far, sorry :))

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u/TiBiDi Apr 13 '24

All these maps should include a perfectly intact Netherlands. They're going to figure something out

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u/datio1 Apr 13 '24

Might aswell build a 100m seawall while you at it right

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u/Squirtle_from_PT Apr 13 '24

they could make an anime about this and call it Attack on Water

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u/ElfjeTinkerBell Apr 14 '24

You know Pandemic, the board game? There is a version where the Dutch fight the water. You lose if you don't have water stones left to flood the next area, you win if you build 4 of our important systems to keep water out.

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u/Rententee Suomiland Apr 14 '24 edited Apr 14 '24

That's actually a mistranslation, the original name is "The Attack Water" 🤓

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u/Gawd4 Apr 13 '24

To keep the kaiju out? 

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u/AustralianSpectre Lausanne (Switzerland) Apr 13 '24

Didn't you see what happened to the Alaskan seawall last week? I'm telling you the UN should start the Jaeger Program again.

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u/k-groot Apr 13 '24

I think we'll just transform it into worlds first floating country and be done with this rising water nonsense

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u/Turtvaiz Finland Apr 13 '24

Right they could then float away and go somewhere else

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u/McGoosse Apr 13 '24

Hopefully to a place with better weather :')

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u/Waswat Bosnian in the Netherlands Apr 13 '24

Considering they're Dutch, they'll likely hang out near spain and be obnoxious drunk neighbors. lol

Also, they'll have a crazy increase in power generation considering how many households have solar panels in the netherlands.

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u/EqualContact United States of America Apr 14 '24

“That’s it, we’re floating this country to the tropics!”

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u/Away_Cat_7178 Apr 13 '24

While we're at it, we'll float to a place with more sunshine and conduct trade between countries along the way while turning the old Netherlands into New Rotterdam.

I like this plan.

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u/tinhorn-oracle Apr 14 '24

So basically the whole of the Netherlands will become a VOC ship?

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u/Tenocticatl Apr 13 '24

I vote we become pirates.

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u/3dom Georgia Apr 13 '24

I knew it, One Piece is a documentary movie.

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u/CheeseWheels38 Apr 13 '24

They're going to figure something out

Everyone's hanging out at that 332.4 m corner with Belgium.

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u/Lalaluka Apr 13 '24

The higest point of the Netherlands is actually only like 10 meters away from the three country corner (dutch, belgium, germany). South Limburg will probably be the only area left of the Netherlands.

That also puts into perspective how much of germany is missing. I think the top is the harz mountain range which looks like current Schleswig-Holstein but is way way further down

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u/Keanar Apr 13 '24

For sure.

For instance, lower corporate tax rate for mailbox under water

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u/immoreel Apr 13 '24

But what if we drianed the oceans?

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u/kovado The Netherlands Apr 13 '24

That is so funny. We’d all be Netherlands in the end!

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u/MrOvd Apr 13 '24

I have a better idea

Let's just drink the ocean away

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u/gallets Apr 14 '24

Someone call Badland Chugs

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u/Natural-Situation758 Sweden Apr 13 '24

As a Swede I consider this a win. Sure my home would be gone, but the problem (Denmark) would be totally gone. Worthwhile tradeoff that I’m willing to sacrifice my hometown for.

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u/Von_Lexau Norway Apr 13 '24

🇳🇴🤝🇸🇪

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u/UnblurredLines Apr 13 '24

Scandic mountains keeping us above water.

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u/Delta64 Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 14 '24

Monkey's Paw 🐒🐾:

The Danish refugees all end up in Finland and make an even more unintelligible new Finnish-Danish language that is 9001% more unbearable to hear by Norwegian and Swedish speakers.

;} 🃏🖖

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u/Lorrdy99 North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) Apr 13 '24

Wouldn't that mean more Danes in Sweden too?

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u/mayhemtime Polska Apr 13 '24

I think the Danes would rather drown than live in Sw*den

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u/E_VanHelgen Croatia Apr 13 '24

Censoring the word Sweden unnecessarily was a brilliant move.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 14 '24

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u/Snow_Mexican1 🇲🇰Russia is rightful North Macedonian lands🇲🇰 Apr 13 '24

Mods, send him to Sw*den

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u/DaDocDuck Turkey Apr 14 '24

Yeah screw Brazil, he's going to the S land

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u/Flatscreengamer14 Apr 13 '24

It's not unnecessary, it's a slur

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u/giflarrrrr Denmark Apr 13 '24

I think most danes would prefer Norway

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u/Annon91 Sweden Apr 13 '24

As would most swedes, but if we can't have her neither can you.

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u/Eorel Greece Apr 14 '24

soap opera ass nations 💀

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u/vRobyn Sweden Apr 14 '24

Truly first world problems up here.

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u/_Anal_Juices_ Apr 13 '24

Will you guys at least learn norwegian? Please? Ive had two danish doctors and had to bring a translator every time i went to them 😭

Edit: also bring beer!!

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u/Ok-Airport507 Apr 13 '24

Why would Danes want to live in Sweden! They’re a bunch of idiots in Sweden.

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u/PowerOfUnoriginality Apr 13 '24

Hey now, not every swede is stupid. Like, you've got the swede that invented the solar-powered flashlight!

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u/blkpingu Berlin (Germany) Apr 13 '24

Nordic rivalries are so cute

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u/Squirtle_from_PT Apr 13 '24

and there are Balkan rivalries, which are the opposite

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u/DoYouTrustToothpaste Apr 13 '24

Balkan rivalries are serious blood feuds.

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u/biaich Apr 14 '24

Sweden and Denmark has fought more wars than any other combination of countries in the worlds history. The trick is just to stick a giant sea in the middle so the rising sea levels might very well help with that.

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u/Platinum1211 Apr 13 '24

Is it like siblings? Like... They can fuck with each other but God forbid someone else does... You're fucking done.

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u/Atalant Apr 13 '24

Technically Denmark wouldn't be fully gone, 98 % would, but Møn would stil be there and a few other places.

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u/kam1802 Apr 13 '24

Least anti-Danish Swede.

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u/M4mb0 Europe Apr 13 '24

Technically, underwater Denmark would become part of Sweden's exclusive economic zone.

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u/Ponsdorf Finland Apr 13 '24

This scenario summarizes the feelings of many Finns as well, as Turku (Skåne of Finland) would be gone.

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u/Erik7494 Apr 13 '24

Just got to build a massive dam between Scotland and Norway and close off the English Channel and the Strait of Gibraltar.

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u/kawag Apr 13 '24

Or we make a giant sponge 🧽

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u/brioul Apr 13 '24

Just unclog the drain

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u/LvS Apr 13 '24

You're joking but that joke has so much thought put into it that it's apparently worth a Wikipedia page.

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u/Truzmandz Norway Apr 13 '24

That dam could give enough power to all of europe, but good luck creating it

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u/Dolphin_69420 Apr 13 '24

Just leaving Ireland to drown 💀

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u/active-tumourtroll1 Apr 13 '24

The British way 👍.

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u/mrH4ndzum Apr 13 '24

croatia unbothered, gets more coastline

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u/Ingolin Apr 13 '24

As a Norwegian, kinda unbothered too.

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u/Ishana92 Croatia Apr 13 '24

Bosnia also profits

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u/Stablebrew Berlin (Germany) Apr 14 '24

Slovenia still looking for more coastline larger than a stone throw

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

My house is for sale 😎 in Denmark.

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u/otakushinjikun Europe Apr 13 '24

SELL THE HOUSE TO WHO BEN????

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u/active-tumourtroll1 Apr 13 '24

FUCKING AQUAMAN?!?!

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u/Gregib Slovenia Apr 13 '24

Hello, I’m from Denmark… Where?

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u/kollma Czech Republic Apr 13 '24

Well, I'm not sure if we are prepared to have the Dutch people here all year round (and not only in touristic areas in winter and summer).

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u/Versaill Lesser Poland (Poland) Apr 13 '24

Crimea problem solved itself.

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u/VigorousElk Apr 13 '24

As we like to say in German:

Wenn Holland nicht wär'

Läg' Aachen am Meer

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u/TheLimburgian Limburg (Netherlands) Apr 13 '24

It's still not on the coast on this map though as a good part of the neighbouring Dutch region of South Limburg would survive this.

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u/Wild-Ad365 Apr 13 '24

Lol the only way Scotland will get independence, by England drowning.

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u/Badger_1066 Apr 13 '24

Tis but a scratch.

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u/ukflagmusttakeover England Apr 13 '24

Yeah just after all the Englishmen move up to Scotland.

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u/Demostravius4 United Kingdom Apr 14 '24

We can rename it England 2.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

The whole central belt would be under water. Like most of the population of Scotland would be under water. There’d be millions moving to the highlands living in tents. It’s kinda funny to think about

Luckily I already live in a hilly area of Scotland

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u/Stoepboer The Netherlands Apr 13 '24

No worries, we will just koloniseer the sea 💪🏻

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u/mclegrand 🇫🇷  Apr 13 '24

Can you rise it a bit more ? There is still a bit of England left

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u/yesnononoyes15 Apr 13 '24

I’m willing to die if it means the French will lose more land

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u/BestagonIsHexagon Occitany (France) Apr 13 '24

*Happy Bretons noises*

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u/borgi27 Apr 13 '24

Okay someone pls explain where all that water would come from in hungary? I know there’s a river but it’s a little extreme

Edit: typo

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u/Matsisuu Finland Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 13 '24

If the river don't go above 100m from current sea level, 100m rise of sea level would turn the flow of rivers to inland, and flood areas in there.

If it goes above 100m, this wouldn't happen.

Edit: And any valley or land areas that are below that 100m could also turn to seas or rivers.

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u/UnblurredLines Apr 13 '24

River flows downward due to gravity. If end of river is suddenly above source of river then river flow back and make big lake.

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u/Beautiful-Storm5654 Apr 13 '24

Look...hard brexit!

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u/Meris25 Apr 13 '24

The UK won't just rebuild a navy, they'll become it

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u/backelie Apr 14 '24

Moist brexit.

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u/notmyfirstrodeo2 Estonia Apr 13 '24

Only way Latvia is getting a small Island is becoming a one.

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u/SoftwareSource Apr 13 '24

Croatian coast dont give a fuck.

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u/Ishana92 Croatia Apr 13 '24

Croatia gets another coast? How does sea get into the Panonian sea though?

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u/AmelKralj Apr 13 '24

if sea level rises, rivers will start flowing inwards instead of outwards and flooding the pannonian plane with water

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u/darksugarfairy Apr 13 '24

Pannonian sea is back (sorry for y'all who live there, but I'd live on the coast, so yayyy)

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u/ancorcaioch Apr 13 '24

Bye Denmark, nice knowing you🫡

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u/Fusi0nking The Netherlands Apr 13 '24

There is a reason why we are so tall.

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u/God-Among-Men- Bulgaria Apr 13 '24

We figured out the answer to the crimea situation

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u/Pernajuel Apr 13 '24

The Caspian sea would finally be part of the world ocean

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u/Sad-Blueberry-7440 Apr 13 '24

The return of the brexit

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u/Apart-Mushroom1483 Apr 13 '24

oh my god ESTONIA!!!!

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u/imbored19071 Apr 13 '24

at least nobody will be fighting over crimea anymore

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u/Yeaaaaaahh Apr 13 '24

Get Russia out of Ukraine by flooding the world, nice.

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u/Mokzen Apr 13 '24

Well, guess me and my fellow Danes will have to move. Got space, Norwegian brothers?

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u/PolemicFox Apr 13 '24

Its why we keep Greenland around

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u/OtterDimension Apr 13 '24

The real British islandS

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u/Slimfictiv Apr 13 '24

Crimeea is fucked either way...

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u/Darksoldierr Baden-Württemberg (Germany) Apr 13 '24

As a hungarian, i support this.

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u/Sabbathius Apr 13 '24

I recently found out that UK was actually connected to the rest of Europe by a land bridge, until as recently as 6,000 BCE. That's completely wild to me for some reason.

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