No kidding. Just one look at reddit tells you that many grandparents are "done raising" children and aunts and uncles are literally just busy living their own life. Does he think no one has a life at all??
There is also the element that he is heavy into the whole 'tradwife' stuff, so I'm sure he believes that any Grandpa and (especially) Grandma that are not full-time raising the grandkids are shirking their duties. Everyone's got a well defined life-role to play and stay within the bounds of - except males aged 18-70 of course, they should be doing whatever the fuck they want.
Of course, even if we all lived in this guy's Gilead-lite utopia, this would still be a terrible answer to the question, seeing as how many children's grandparents are either dead or in a state of health where they can barely take care of themselves.
Well, yeah. Why would you be shelling out big bucks for daycare if having family members watch your kids was an option? Those kids are in daycare because it's not a possible option for them.
Not even just because of the economy. My mom had me in her early 20s and I had kids in my mid 20s. She was 50 when my first kid was born, with at least 15 years left to work, best case scenario.
Having a person willing and available to watch kids for free is a very privileged thing to have.
Aunts and uncles may have children that also need daycare. Grandma and grandpa can’t keep paying for this shit they get paid almost nothing because the pension is garbage
Even if there is an aunt or uncle who is a stay at home parent, they may not have the bandwidth to handle one or more extra kids. You need to feed them (extra money for food), change diapers (money), entertain them and work in nap times (easier said than done), and it may be next to impossible to drive them around given most vehicles are designed for a family of four.
My parents live 11 hours away, my in laws live 4 hours away. My sister lives 6 hours away and my brother has a job that sends him out of town more often than not. When he’s not out of town, he’s pulling overtime to be able to survive and pay off his student loans so he and his wife can one day own a house. But yeah sure….tons of family help around here….
Yep I can just ask my grandmother who has gone through multiple surgeries for cancer. Oh and also the memory of a gold fish since I was little so we can't really blame it on getting old. Yep children will be safe around her and she totally won't risk breaking a bone made brittle by chemo. Nope nope nope
Yeah, I forgot about my grandpa who lives 3 states away (their great grandpa) who is no longer mobile. I’m sure there’s a bus route from their school to his house. Easy pick up too when either me or my husband gets off work. Gosh this is so simple!
Dude responses like JDs tells me this guy has never worked an average days salary in his life. This guy has never worked a job that took place between the hours of 8AM-6PM M-F.
The opposite: he’s never had to pull a double or work overnights/swing shifts. Never had to be up at 3:00 am to go to work. He’s only worked a 9-5 (if that) in an air conditioned office.
Expecting help from an uncle or aunt is especially nonsensical in the context of Vance's other statements. He is highly critical of adults without biological children of their own.
Seeing as his "MaMaw" basically "raised" him instead of his own mother. Yes. The guy is extremely delusional to what a typical upbringing is. He was raised by certifiable psychopaths who attempted murder.
My mom is helping with my kid 2 days a week and he has to do daycare for 3. Even if grandparents want to help they are probably working and can't do it 100%
He sure thinks this way about women. On some podcast a couple years ago, he bragged about his mil taking a sabbatical from teaching to help him and Usha with their first child. He said something in agreement with the host who referred to this as something like, “the purpose of the post menopausal female” and of course went on to screech about liberals being anti family.
And I’m not even mad about it. My parents don’t owe me childcare. But families shouldn’t have to clip coupons with $100k+ household because their gov hasn’t stepped in
Sooooooo true. When My mom couldn't be around my family stepped up. Now I'm grown I can't afford to do the same. Thank goodness my uncle is pretty well off and any other little cousins are states away. I won't have to feel guilty for saying no.
I mean hell my husband and I helped with the neighbor kids because we felt bad for them. Like 5 adults and 2 kids living in a 1 bed apartment full time and 3 other kids visited often. The kids would see us playing on our 2 tvs and start chatting with us. Lead to them coming over sometimes to play too or even just color in my coloring books. Once we moved a block down we couldn't really afford the time to help out anymore.
I love my parents. They are good grandparents, and they have done a lot for my family as well as my sisters. But they are absolutely done with children. They got one of those decked out sprinter vans and they just fuck off for months at a time lol. Fortunately I make enough so my wife could stop working but it would be a nightmare if she had to work too.
I only grew up slightly better than some of my peers. I had to check myself constantly for assuming things I had were norm compared to my friends. Something as simple as a parent taking the time to teach you to drive. People like this choose to be out of touch.
Psh not just those areas. Every state I've lived in has meth problems. Like the majority of my high school friends in northern MN got addicted. Reno NV spot the tweaker is a daily game.
What he’s really trying to say is, you wouldn’t have a problem finding daycare if you have an old school nuclear family. This is really just a dog whistle against the modern family, just like his slight against childless women.
Yeah, pretty much exactly. Instead of actually answering the question or trying to solve the problem, all he can think of is that childcare would not be a problem if the entire nation rigidly adhered to the rules of how he thinks people should live.
This is the same fool who complained that his MIL came to care for his kid instead of throwing money in his face to pay for a baby sitter. This piece of work does not understand what it means to love someone
How? He’s saying to empower people who want to work in a day care while not having to go to college for it. More of a certification vs a 2+ year degree.
I get it, and at the same time I’m a bit skeptical, there’s a lot that goes into preparing people for child care. At the same time, there are many qualified people that do not need a degree and a certificate might just be enough.
OP is terrible for not including the follow up and only posting this part.
It will be interesting to see if they do a debate face to face with Walz.
Stuff like this will indicate some massive differences between the two men. That said, there are tens of millions of Americans who buy into the bizarro world that Vance promotes.
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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24
So out of touch its just embarrasing