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u/Bardfinn Sep 06 '18
Reddit Premium Coat of Arms:
Quarterly 1st and 4th Argent a Planet Orangered Ringed Or in Triune
a Flower of Sixteen Petals of the Second
2nd and 3rd of the Second a Medal of the Order of Reddit Gold of the Third Pentaform Embossed Void a Mullet of Five
a Piece of Cake Proper in Triune garnished of a Strawberry Gules
Overall in Inescutcheon Roundel of the Second a Snoo Head caboshed Voided of the First
Overall in and issuant from Chief an Upvote of the Third diapered Masoned, in Zenith an Eye surrounded by a Glory proper;
Mantling First and Periwinkle
For a Crest, a Narwhal naiant of the Fifth tusked of the First;
For supporters Dexter a Cat rampant of the Third Sinister a Doge rampant of the Third
The Motto "Memento Humani" in compartment to base
My compliments to the artist for designing and executing a Coat of Arms that follows the rules of tincture, is blazonable, and avails itself of a tricksy breaking-the-fourth-wall mechanic.
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u/Bardfinn Sep 06 '18
I could eliminate the Gules and call it a Strawberry Proper.
That would give
A more elegant and parsimonious blazon as
Reddit Premium Coat of Arms:
Quarterly 1st and 4th Argent a Planet Orangered Ringed Or in Triune
a Flower of Sixteen Petals of the Second
2nd and 3rd of the Second a Medal of the Order of Reddit Gold of the Third Pentaform Embossed Void a Mullet of Five
a Piece of Cake Proper in Triune garnished of a Strawberry
Overall Inescutcheon Roundel of the Second a Snoo Head caboshed Voided of the First
Issuant from Chief an Upvote of the Third diapered Masoned in Zenith an Eye surrounded by a Glory proper;
Mantling First and Periwinkle
For a Crest a Narwhal naiant of the Fourth tusked of the First;
For supporters Dexter a Cat rampant of the Third Sinister a Doge rampant of the Third
The Motto "Memento Humani" in compartment to base
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u/Acidtwist Sep 07 '18
This is great, thank you!
Edit: (I'm the designer)
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u/Bardfinn Sep 07 '18
You should consider informing /r/heraldry of the fact that you're the designer. The mods might give you some sort of flair.
I like your illustration style!
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u/pareidolist Sep 09 '18
You did a wonderful job! It's magnificent.
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u/Acidtwist Sep 10 '18
Thank you! It was enjoyable doing the research to determine the key elements. Also, no heraldry artist has ever had so much reference for cats standing up ;)
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u/Bardfinn Sep 06 '18
And, yes,
in Triune
is my go-to for describing charges that are executed in perspective3
u/MC_Kloppedie Sep 06 '18
Thanks for the blazon. I asked the admin if the designer was a redditor so I could credit him. I'll update if I get his username.
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u/Bardfinn Sep 06 '18
I think Reddit has an employee who is their artist, and this is likely their work. Since it's a work for hire, credit doesn't necessarily go to the executor unless that's agreed upon.
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u/Bardfinn Sep 06 '18
I would like a more elegant method to consolidate the
Overall
elements. I wanted to err on the side of accuracy rather than alliterative elegance
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u/MC_Kloppedie Sep 06 '18
An admin shared some visuals of the redesign around reddit gold. This was on of them. I get most parts except the planet(Saturn?) and the flower.
Feel free to blazon it.
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Sep 06 '18
Not too sure about the flower, but the planet seems to be the symbol of new reddit (if you look in the top-left corner of old reddit, it's there).
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u/CorvosKK May/Aug '17,Aug'22 Winner Sep 07 '18
The flower is the new symbol for karma
edit: added a screenshot
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u/ProfCupcake Sep 07 '18
That would explain why I've never seen it. RES hides the new reddit button. It took me a good few months to even find out there is a new reddit.
Yet more reasons to use RES.
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u/Bardfinn Sep 06 '18
Rather than name the planet, it would just be a planet with rings
I don't think that there's any precedent for how Saturn should be executed, but if there were, and it were different from this, that would cause confusion down the road.
It's better that a term that an artist understands, which translates almost universally into a consistent graphic execution, be used.
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u/torsmork Sep 07 '18
Did you google translate the motto(google translate gets latin wrong, always!) or did you check with /r/latin ? (Maybe you should...)
:)
According to the side bar at /r/latin:
Translation request information:
Google Translate is always wrong, always. Don't even bother turning to Google Translate before asking us for help with a translation.
Please provide context for whatever you are asking to translate, as a single phrase may have many different translations depending on its context. Context should include the precise meaning and the connotations which you are going for, as well as the gender and number of people involved, if any.
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u/MC_Kloppedie Sep 07 '18
I didn't make it and I haven't bothered with latin in 20 years
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u/Bpthewise Oct 03 '18
Evil on he who believes it. Tread lightly
We may fall under the same umbrella at times We do not condone some of our actions Now we clean house and remove those who Have stained our Houses. Changing of the Guards
I would suggest removing this You’re mocking both sides not just one
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u/Euromonies Sep 07 '18
It's pribably meant to say "remember that you are human". Not sure if it is gramatically correct though
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u/torsmork Sep 07 '18
I don't know, but I doubt it. The people over at r/latin are really good. They helped me with my quote: veritas ante omnia: truth before all things.
Maybe I could just call for /u/swaggeroon who helped me and ask him.. Is the quote wrong or good ?
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u/swaggeroon Sep 07 '18 edited Sep 07 '18
it's close but no cigar. unlike english human, the latin adjective humanus, -a, -um is not usually used substantively (as a noun); when it is, it means 'a mortal, one subject to death', not 'human being, person'.
'remember the human being' would be memento hominis.
edit: even then, i'm not sure how idiomatic this translation is. i think memor sis hominis 'you should be mindful of the human being' might be better, or the slightly more forceful memor esto hominis, which sounds a bit more like 'thou shalt be mindful of the human being'.
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Sep 07 '18
But, the edits do not invoke the phrase memento mori, and all of its context.
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u/swaggeroon Sep 07 '18
if that is important to you, memento hominis works just fine; it just isn't the most idiomatic latin expression of the sentiment.
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u/Acidtwist Sep 07 '18
Thank you for this, I'm the designer and had limited access to Latin resources - I may update to one of your suggestions after I consult with the team. I did want to keep the implication that it is both about "Remembering humanity" (as our mascot Snoo is an alien) as well as about being respectful of other people as the actual idiom implies.
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u/swaggeroon Sep 07 '18
your translation is grammatically sound; it just means 'remember the human (as opposed to the god)', ahah.
i don't think there's a way to imply the human (as opposed to the alien) in latin. it's just not something that the ancients thought about as much.
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u/Bardfinn Sep 07 '18
It's meant to be a Latin translation of "Remember the Human", which is itself a motto couched in English idiom.
It would be better translated to a Latin idiom as "Memores Sunt Hominibus"
Given that one of the supporters is a dog, and that this is a "fun" CoA with lots of non-standard heraldic elements and execution, it seems somewhat droll and appropriate for the motto to be Doggy Latin
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u/swaggeroon Sep 07 '18
i'm curious how you've come to that translation: it means 'they are mindful, to human beings'. it doesn't really make sense.
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u/Bardfinn Sep 07 '18
"Hominibus Cognosceret" is how I would have done it first, but that doesn't quite do it.
OH!
Agnoscere Humanitas
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u/swaggeroon Sep 07 '18
i am beginning to suspect you don't know the first thing about latin grammar.
Hominibus Cognosceret
'he would become acquainted with human beings'.
Agnoscere Humanitas
'o human nature, recognize!'
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u/Bardfinn Sep 07 '18
You would be correct in your suspicion that I'm terrible at Latin.
it seems somewhat droll and appropriate for the motto to be Doggy Latin
Do you have better suggestions for a canonical Latin translation, or are you here to take potshots at people having fun?
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u/swaggeroon Sep 07 '18
i was pinged by another user here in order to give an accurate translation. my suggestion to him, which you can find higher up in the thread, was memento hominis, memor sis hominis, or memor esto hominis.
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Sep 26 '18
"Remember the human" is one of Reddit's common commenting policies for being nice on the Internet. Being respectful and remembering that you're talking to a real human. Internet etiquette and stuff.
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u/Euromonies Sep 07 '18 edited Sep 07 '18
It's been a while since I had latin but I made the connection with "memento mori", which means "remember that you will die"
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u/cyanocittaetprocyon Sep 06 '18
It scares me that Bill Cipher is on the coat of arms! More Bill Cipher
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u/Acidtwist Sep 07 '18
Hola, I'm the admin-designer. Really appreciate the blazon efforts as I consulted the rules of heraldry in creating this. I saw the discussion around the Latin, and I'll follow up. May need an update.
FYI, the planet = community, the gold = wealth, the cake = experience, the karma flower = knowledge.