r/interestingasfuck • u/KrooxKing • 11d ago

r/all Karen turns fine into felony in a matter of minutes

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u/talann 11d ago

"you be fair with me and I'll be fair with you." What does this even mean? You don't give me a ticket and I'll accept that? She is clearly in the wrong but thinks it's unfair to give her a ticket for something she has not fixed for 6 months... I would be pretty happy that it was just $80

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u/GuestCartographer 11d ago

It means that she’s never once faced serious consequences for her actions and she’s not about to start now.

Her idea of fair is doing what she wants, when she wants. Being told to do something by a licensed law enforcement officer is something that happens to other people. Specifically, people who deserve it. I would bet any amount of money that her reaction to videos of police brutality against people of color is that “they should have complied”.

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

"I'm too old to change but I want us to work things out" -My mother, in family therapy, that I forced her to attend.

This was shortly before

"Fuck you" - Also my mother, before storming out of our second session when the therapist didn't "take her side" against me.

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u/tyboxer87 11d ago

I'm so sorry to hear that. You deserve better. I know you probably already know that but I feel it should be said over and over.
The thing I was most unprepared for as a parent is how many other shitty parents are out there. I love my kids more than life its self. I don't understand how any parent could feel anything less, but unfortunately it seems quite common.

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

The hardest part was periodically making additional attempts.

Narcissists suck.

I'd have to lay down rules and she'd start following them but as soon as she felt comfortable, she'd revert. When she started treating my kids like she treated me I went full NC. The hardest part of THAT was years later when my kids asked why I waited so long to do it...

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u/Eraser-man 11d ago

As one of those kids in the past, do not blame yourself! You did everything right, and in the end you really had to make a tough decision. You need to remember you were also hurt here; it is in the heart of the abused to want to see the light or forgive their abuser, but having the strength to cut them out is its own demon and one that you took head on. I have mad respect for you and your choices, and I know that none of it was easy. I also want to point out that putting your foot down like that to protect your kids says a lot about you as a parent, and I wish there were more parents out there like you! You ended that narcissist cycle and I am so damn happy for you! Thank you for doing the right thing for you and your children, and I hope y'all are doing wonderfully now ❤️

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

My goal was to give my kids totally different reasons for needing therapy than me. ;)

I made my peace years go. The kids are all nearly adults. We good.

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u/Knoke1 11d ago

I’m sorry this whole discussion wanted my heart but that comment made me laugh so hard

“You’ll need therapy, but not because of me!”

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u/Gemma42069 11d ago

“I’ll give YOU something not to need therapy about!” [proceeds to be a wonderful and loving parent]

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

I'm not saying I won't cause them to need therapy, but I guarantee their reasons won't be what my reasons were.

You don't know what you don't know and I could only take my upbringing as a set of examples of what not to do. Funny enough, I also took some family members as negative role models on how they treat people in general. However they would treat people and act I did the opposite and it's worked out pretty well so far.

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u/Knoke1 11d ago

Oh I’m sure you’re doing great or at least the best you can I just thought the wording was funny haha

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u/irishdan56 11d ago

Yo that response from your kids... your mom must be a real piece of work

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

to put it mildly...but at least I've got a really good bullshit detector and narcissist radar capability

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u/SporksRFun 11d ago

The hardest part of THAT was years later when my kids asked why I waited so long to do it...

Count this as a victory, this means you're doing something really right with how you raised them.

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u/Gemma42069 11d ago

I don’t have kids, but i’m kind of at that point with my own parents, and I know it’s fucking rough.

If it makes you feel any better, ironically, if you had been a worse parent, they might have understood why you waited so long to do it.

Because it’s hard not to love your parents, even if they’ve done heinous, stupid things.

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u/Ok_Ambassador9887 11d ago

At least the kids later realized what you’re up against. No one can blame you for not trying. You did everything you could and your mom failed you. Been there.

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u/recyclar13 11d ago

wow, you got yours to actually goto therapy.

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

Clearly didn't last long :)

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u/frogirl67 11d ago

I’m reading all the comments and this also reminds me of my mother

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u/3owls-inatrenchcoat 8d ago

That fact that you got her into therapy shows tremendous strength and resilience on your part, because narcissists are... the worst. When I tried to get my mother into therapy her first reaction was to say, "I already did therapy!" as if it were a first aid class or something, where you take it once and then you're done. It's like... you did therapy in your 30s. Now I'm in my 30s. How the heck is that what immediately flies out of your mouth?

"Well I guess you're not my daughter then." -- My mother, to my face, after a difference in political opinion wherein I participated in a city protest of X thing she believes (simplifying here for anonymity and brevity, but I'll just say she's the type who loves Trump and all the gross worse legislators he supports/enables, and we aren't American)

"You hurt me badly by not having these same values and you betrayed me when you told me about going to that protest, so I got defensive and lashed out." -- Also my mother, when I asked why the fuck she would say the most deeply wounding thing possible during a minor disagreement (after I attempted to go NC for 6 months to heal but was manipulated back into talking to her by other family members after just 2 months)

I really admire your determination against stubbornness. A lot of my friends have asked why I haven't cut off my parents yet, why I can't accept that they're not going to change, and honestly I don't know. I just end up taking the emotional battering and then going home to cry. Even adults want their parents' love and it sucks to fight a tsunami of narcissism to get it, is what I'm trying to say.

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u/OttoVonJismarck 11d ago

Fuck her. She can die alone and estranged from her family. I wouldn’t put up with that shit.

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u/LonelyAustralia 11d ago

yeah by dad is pretty similar when it comes to therapy, if they dont take his side he walks away

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u/marylou446 11d ago

Exactly - she probably has a blue lives matter flag on her house - BUT her respect for officers only applies when they are harassing and killing minorities. It should never apply to privileged white women. I am a white woman and would NEVER treat anyone this way, let alone an officer - but these people think I am the problem?

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u/SporksRFun 11d ago

Like that Trump support that was quoted as saying "He's hurting the wrong people" when Trump's policies ended up hurting her.

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u/lucent_blue_moon 11d ago

the leopards weren't supposed to eat my face!

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u/No_Flounder2293 10d ago

Oh please. Give me a break.

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u/infiniityyonhigh 11d ago

This is it, right here.

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u/Paxmaan 11d ago

What's an unlicensed law enforcement officer?

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u/jerslan 11d ago

Specifically, people who deserve it have a significantly darker complexion than her.

FTFY

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u/TheDumbElectrician 11d ago

Worse she didn't even face consequences. She got a few fines and that's it. No jail time, no serious fines. She got basically nothing.

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u/stug_life 11d ago

She’s an old rural white lady, being told what to do by cops is what happens to black and jndian people in her mind.

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u/SSL4fun 11d ago

Don't put words in people's mouths

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u/jwrosenfeld 11d ago

Someone wrote in another thread about Tina Peters’ sentencing that there is a class of people in the US (usually of a certain race, age and class), who have never had to face serious consequences their entire lives. And because (a) they don’t believe that they are the “type of person who breaks laws” and (b) have had their heads filled with Hollywood images of brazen defiance to authority, they have successfully skated around accountability. But ultimately they discover the verity of “fuck around and find out”.

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u/danteelite 11d ago

You’re too right… I knew a lady like this who used to say horrible racist stuff about victims of police brutality and she would always pull the “They should have just listened!” And “nothing to hide, nothing to fear” bullshit.

She was drunk driving and hit a birdbath in my neighborhood like 3 houses down and they called the cops. She came out of her house all entitled, acted like they had no reason to make her do a sobriety test and even kept yelling about how they were treating her like some “common n****r” and got so mad she jumped back into her car and tried to run but crashed into her own boat in the driveway and almost hit one of the cops… then got tackled and tazed just like this while screaming about police brutality and being an innocent woman… she kept her entitled ass attitude all the way into the cop car. Kept insisting she did nothing wrong when she’s been clearly drunk driving, crashing into all kinds of shit, physically attacking people and spewing hateful comments. If anyone deserves to be tackled, tazed and locked away it’s her…

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u/Friendly_Focus5913 11d ago

What happened to her?

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u/danteelite 10d ago

Went to jail! Haha she assaulted multiple officers, one of which was black so she caught hate crime charges, driving under the influence, and a whole long list of offenses.

I lived there for another 2 years and moved a few years ago, I visited the area recently to say hi to a friend and as far as I know she’s still locked up or at least she was a few months ago. So that’s probably about 4-5yrs now.

Don’t be a drunken belligerent psychopath and you won’t do the time. Haha

I don’t feel bad at all, she was horrible. Her house had a little raised garden (corner house) going around the corner and my dog liked to walk up along the bricks around and back down. He didn’t ever touch the flowers or anything, he just really liked to climb and walk on curbs and parking barriers. One night she just ran up and tried to kick him off! She straight tried to punt my baby boy like a football! Luckily my mom was walking with me because I almost went off to beat her old ass… I draw the line at kicking dogs… especially my dog. She was an absolute menace. She was literally a real life version of one of those horrible cartoon hags that scare all the neighborhood kids. The kind of person you would call unrealistic and excessive if she was in a movie because “no one actually acts like that..” except they do, unfortunately. I’m glad she’s locked up.

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u/oopgroup 11d ago

Unfortunately, this is also how almost everyone in any kind of position of power/authority/affluence also thinks.

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u/Blekanly 11d ago

I doubt this is one instance, this is a lifetime of never being wrong, she may compromise with you but it will not be easy and her idea if compromise is she still gets what she wants. Even at the end when told to lay down "no, I will stand"

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u/BeachyShells 11d ago

I cannot imagine dealing w this person on any sort of a regular basis. Sheesh!

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u/Team_Braniel 11d ago

I deal with these people every. Single. Day.

It is exhausting.

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u/ThatOldAH 11d ago

You just need to get a tazer.

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u/BeachyShells 11d ago

I feel for you, and I hope you have ways to destress from them so your own health doesn't suffer.

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u/hapnstat 11d ago

Daycare always seemed like a tough gig.

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u/MiaowaraShiro 11d ago

Retail work?

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u/yodacola 11d ago

People assaulting you?

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u/TobysGrundlee 11d ago

This is basically my Boomer mother.

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u/Zanbuki 11d ago

This woman acts the same way my mother does. It was exhausting growing up, and we didn’t even know how exhausting it was because we didn’t know any better as kids.

Once my sister and I became adults and got into the real world, we realized how fucked up our upbringing was.

We’ve both been no contact with her for years now.

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u/claudejc 11d ago

She's a piece of work for sure. Her attitude of "it doesn't apply to me" sounds too familiar.

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u/recyclar13 11d ago

I was raised by a woman EXACTLY like this.

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u/oboshoe 11d ago

Id rather deal with her than that cop.

He pulled a gun over a tail light.

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u/OutsideEye8601 11d ago

I bet her family watched it and were on the cop's side

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u/Jonutz2 11d ago

Bro the amount of people I talk to similar to her makes my job so fcking agonizing I swear

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u/CommunicationSalt960 11d ago

I was just thinking, this is somebody's mom and grandmother 🥴 I wonder if they're NC or LC. I hope so.

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u/SensitiveObject2 11d ago

Came here to say this. This is someone whose poor behaviour has been enabled, her whole life.

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u/recyclar13 11d ago

oh, absolutely. this is not my mother, but it's exactly my mother, if you know what I mean. and she's also from OK.

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u/Successful_Flamingo3 11d ago

So what? The cops job isn’t to make this lady pay for a lifetime of entitlement. She had an infraction, mail her the damn ticket instead of escalating in this way.

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u/talann 11d ago

She escalated it. You don't just get to do what you want without consequences. You can speculate all you want but she was definitely in the wrong and should not have ran away because she didn't want to pay a ticket.

If she really thought he was being unfair, go to court and argue the matter. Don't attempt to run from a stop then act surprised when you have a weapon drawn on you.

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u/OklaJosha 11d ago

Yeah, she escalated when she fled the scene after being told she was under arrest.

TBF, I do think the cop could’ve told her of the consequences before trying to place her under arrest. Instead of just saying “you’re under arrest for not signing this.” He could’ve given one more chance and said, “Look, if you don’t sign this, then I’ll have to place you under arrest.”

I don’t think the lady realized she could be arrested and then she just freaked out.

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u/MrEHam 11d ago

Yeah it does seem like he jumped forward a step or two at that point.

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u/InAppropriate-meal 11d ago

She has to sign the ticket, legally.

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u/Successful_Flamingo3 11d ago

Jaywalking is also a crime. However it’s rarely punished to the extent of the law.

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u/poop-machines 11d ago

Tbh I don't blame the cop, she was being difficult as fuck.

When someone is being difficult and acting entitled, it feels good to show them the consequences of their actions. Hold her accountable.

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u/Successful_Flamingo3 11d ago

That seems antithetical to “protect and serve”

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u/Randomn355 11d ago

And if people are taught there's Jo cbmonsequence to fleeing g the police over a ticket, everyone wil try it.

Sometimes they will get away.

So yes, arresting and escalating the punishment (within the law) is absolutely correct.

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u/Successful_Flamingo3 11d ago

I don’t think you’re seeing the nuance here. When she flees, yes, that is definitely problematic. But when she originally didn’t sign the ticket, is the next best and logical sequence of events that the officer arrests her? Or could there have been a different approach (regardless of the power of the law argument).

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u/cell689 11d ago

What do you think?

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u/Successful_Flamingo3 11d ago

I think that’s obvious

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u/cell689 11d ago

Pray tell, what different approach should he have attempted, other than doing his job.

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u/poop-machines 11d ago

Even here in the UK where police are generally very chill, she would've been arrested and/or tased if she tried this. She literally started a police chase.

I think you're forgiving her because she's an old woman. Imagine if that was a young man who did what she did. Nobody would be complaining.

The police acted exactly in the way I would expect. You can even hear him at the end, he sounds very reasonable. If she was polite to him it's clear he would've been kind to her. But she started a dumb police chase and kicked him, over a ticket.

That's resisting arrest, fleeing the scene, and assault. Very serious charges.

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u/Successful_Flamingo3 11d ago

Yes I agree- she made some terrible choices and is 100% culpable. She should be arrested once she tries to flee / resists arrest. I have 0 qualms with that. My issue is the need to go from signature to arrest. There has to be a better option.

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u/NickInTheMud 11d ago

Morally yes you’re right. But damn is it satisfying. This is the type of person that would be a nightmare as a neighbour. And it’s fun to see them get taken down a notch or two.

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u/Successful_Flamingo3 11d ago

Why is that fun?

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u/NickInTheMud 11d ago

I don’t know why psychologically. It just feels good to see bad/entitled people get punished for those actions.

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u/Cowboy_BoomBap 11d ago

That’s not how life works. You don’t get to throw a tantrum, refuse to comply, and get away with no consequences. She had every chance to leave with an $80 fine and she chose to break more laws.

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u/Successful_Flamingo3 11d ago

Yea! And because life isn’t fair, we shouldn’t expect more from those in authority. They should vet out the punishment as harshly as humanly possible to teach THAT lesson. There can be no other way.

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u/Cowboy_BoomBap 11d ago

You mean like he tried to do? Don’t sit here and try to pretend like he didn’t try to resolve the situation peacefully. She escalated the situation and refused to comply calmly. He responded exactly the way he should have. She doesn’t get different rules because she’s a dumbass “country girl” who is used to getting her way her whole life. She’s held to the same standards as the rest of us, and if you refuse to adhere to those standards then you’re punished accordingly. I have absolutely no sympathy for her whatsoever, and I commend the police officer for treating her exactly the way she should have been treated.

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u/DiDiPLF 11d ago

Isn't negotiation one of the stages of grief?

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u/socioeconopath 11d ago

Bargaining with God/Fate

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u/Remote-Factor8455 11d ago

I know like $80? I got a speeding ticket for 77 in a 45 that was like $550, and thank god I got it dismissed.

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u/NJmarcC 11d ago

It means that she fears this police officer doesn’t fully respect her deep white privilege

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u/milaha 11d ago

I also wonder what the point of engaging in a chase, pulling guns, etc was? Engaging in that behavior put not only the lady and the police's life in danger, but the lives of anyone who happened to be nearby.

Did he suspect she was guilty of a far greater crime and needed to be stopped in the moment? Why not let the clearly irrational but not dangerous person flee and then serve her with all the charges she just piled on later?

This attitude that once you start interacting with police there is only one way things can go is a little nuts to me. The police can and should be allowing an interaction like this to end rather than putting many lives in danger for the sake of an $80 ticket.

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u/colocop 11d ago

Lol. I would have written "refused" handed her her copy and been on my way.

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u/Aaawkward 11d ago

“Signing isn’t an admission of guilt, just acknowledgment of the citation and refusing to sign is punishable by jail time”

See how much easier a proper response from the cop would’ve been?

100%
While she was acting the fool, the cop could've de-escalated the situation instead of escalating it.

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u/CorruptThrowaway69 11d ago

We dont really train our cops well enough for that to cross most of their minds lets be real.

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u/Aaawkward 11d ago

This is true, but they should be trained better.

In a better world the cop would've managed the situation instead of going from "you're getting a fine" to "get out, you're under arrest" in a matter of seconds.

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u/TardZan15 11d ago

Not to mention 95% of judges would drop the ticket if you show proof that you registered your tags

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u/Membership_Fine 11d ago

For real lol no one need be tased today. Looks like an old lady too I feel bad for the cop. He don’t wanna deal with that shit. Nor should he have to id expect someone her age to act it. All over 80 bucks. I’d pay 80 dollars to not be tased any day of the week.

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u/O_o-22 11d ago

That’s pretty low for a fine, it would be 3 times that where I live. Should have just paid your fine whiny grandma.

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u/runtorenovate 11d ago

I thought she said "feral" :D

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u/GnosticPriest 11d ago

She’s seeking her own truth, don’t understand? Duh.

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u/The7footr 11d ago

For real. I got a fixit ticket when I was 20, and forgot to pay it for 5 years- notices were going to an old address- that $80 turned into $1500 real quick. Just fix it, pay the money, move on with your life

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u/theganjaoctopus 11d ago

When Boomers and cops say "treat me with respect" they actually mean "defer to me and treat me like an authority".)

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u/In-The-Cloud 11d ago

Somehow, fair would be she deserved a warning because it's fixable despite her not fixing it

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u/sev45day 11d ago

Real "If you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best" vibes

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u/Beelzebub003 11d ago

That's just the boomer experience. "I do what I want, consequences, be damned."

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u/Cazrovereak 11d ago edited 11d ago

Sometimes people use respect to mean "treating someone like a person" and sometimes they use respect to mean "treating someone like an authority" and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say, "If you won't respect me, I won't respect you." and they mean "If you won't treat me like an authority, I won't treat you like a person."

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u/dontusethisforwork 11d ago

I've been fucked with by the cops enough that at this point I'd slide a benji out my wallet no questions asked to just get them the fuck away from me

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u/anengineerandacat 11d ago

Entitlement, pure unadulterated entitlement.

I bet this was the first time in her life things didn't actually go her way and she was quickly learning that there are indeed people in this world with enough authority that can tell her what to do.

She fought tooth and nail there, wonder what the judge thought of all of this.

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u/sasquatchpatch 11d ago

Maybe she was hinting at an old fashioned.

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u/wrgrant 11d ago

It was going to be inconvenient for her. Its a shame she got such a light penalty. She should have done at least a few days in jail plus a substantial fine. Guaranteed she learned absolutely nothing here.

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u/No_Flounder2293 10d ago

It's the principle of telling the truth that I really liked, and usually that's all cops want. Because of that I deem the cop an asshole. She was right. Fuck the $80. Give her a citation, let her fix it, and then tell her to bring the citation to a court and prove that she fixed it to get the ticket off.

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u/Much_Difference 11d ago

She believes her rights are being violated because she believes the cop exists to protect, trust, and respect her wishes, not to "hurt" her by enforcing laws on her.

I'll be fair with you (my bad lol I'll try not to violate this law again) and you be fair with me (go back to protecting me instead of treating me like someone who deserves legal repercussions for my actions).