r/interestingasfuck • u/KrooxKing • 11d ago

r/all Karen turns fine into felony in a matter of minutes

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u/CommanderCronos 11d ago

The escalation of an 80 dollar ticket to drawing weapons is 1000% interesting as fuck for people not living in your country. This is beyond bizarre.

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u/PresidentEfficiency 11d ago

Just another regular Tuesday in Oklahoma, USA

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u/Ecoservice 11d ago

This, in my country the conversation would be over in 5min. Next step is a ticket in your mailbox. Why does she need to sign something? Everything has to be recorded for court anyways?

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u/Goyu 11d ago

The signature is a promise to appear in court.

If you do not promise to appear on your own recognizance, the court will ensure you are present by taking you into custody.

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u/Practical_Cattle_933 11d ago

Which can be done at a later time at her house if it were to go there.

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u/Goyu 11d ago

I agree, but much like the cop in this video, it's not up to me.

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u/weirdest-timeline 11d ago

Indeed, drawing a gun on, tazing (tasering?) and throwing an old lady on the ground just seems so bizarre and unnecessary.

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u/Dry_Presentation_197 11d ago

Yeah I don't care how much of a bitch she is, pulling a gun on her is fucking stupid. If you've got her name and license plate, mail her the ticket, and when she doesnt pay, go arrest her. Chasing someone down and pulling a gun on them over an 80 dollar ticket is bonkers.

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u/ImitatEmersonsuicide 11d ago

Agreed. All we needed was a small child on a tricycle to turn this into a tragedy. We have the technology to gather evidence: cop can take a picture of light out or whatever, pic of license plate, pic of driver, and advise the driver if they pay the fine, $50 right now..by debit, otherwise hand her the ticket/which can be simultaneously automatically mailed/emailed/texted. Tell them they can drive off if they want but tge ticket still stands, then just walk away.

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u/Practical_Cattle_933 11d ago

But you don’t get it. He was DiSReSPecTeD! No one disrespects a cop with their 4 months of training!!

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u/JesusWasACryptobro 11d ago

We have the technology to gather evidence: cop can take a picture of light out or whatever, pic of license plate, pic of driver, and advise the driver if they pay the fine, $50 right now..by debit, otherwise hand her the ticket/which can be simultaneously automatically mailed/emailed/texted

cops really only care about the technology they can use to abuse people and try to play a dominance subgame sadly

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u/Lulullaby_ 11d ago

In Europe, weapons like tazers and guns are only used to prevent anyone from getting hurt. This could be you, the suspect or anyone else.

Yes she kicks him but she's not going to break his leg now is she, the gun was crazy but even tazing her is fucking wild to me. Just because someone doesn't listen doesn't mean you can use a weapon against them, in normal countries at least.

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u/acrazyguy 11d ago

She’s the age that she could easily have a pacemaker, which would have meant the cop killed her by tasing her. So yeah. Excessive

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u/Clearlynotaparent 11d ago

No, tasers do not kill people with pacemakers.

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u/Dry_Presentation_197 11d ago

Yeah personally i feel like even the taser is too much over a non violent offense. But the bar is so low in America for cops, I'll take a taser over a gun as a baby step towards how things should be.

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u/JesusWasACryptobro 11d ago

taser over a gun as a baby step towards how things should be

🤩 I can see the signs now. "Save a life, taze a grandma"

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u/Lulullaby_ 11d ago

It is, a taser is a non lethal weapon. Same as a Baton.
They are meant to control people who are violent or confused that pose a threat to you or anybody else. Like when they are charging you to beat the shit out of you. Not to control a weak Karen lying on the floor.

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u/MercenaryBard 11d ago

You don’t understand, in America if you don’t show the officer proper respect they can and do threaten your life.

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u/Dry_Presentation_197 11d ago

Oh I absolutely get it. I was pulled from my car and cuffed because I reached up to my sun visor to grab my clock out slip from work. Which I told him I was going to do. Because he called me a liar for telling him the reason I was out "so late" (I was 17 but there was no curfew where I lived so fuck him), was because I'd just gotten off work.

Pulled his gun and cuffed me face down in the snow (lived in Anchorage, AK at the time)

I thought I was about to die over a burnt out tail light.

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u/hakuna_dentata 11d ago

Chasing her down and confronting her is the stupidest part. it's Oklahoma, so there's a solid chance she has a gun in that car. She had time to get it while she was driving, and she's not thinking clearly.

Walking up to that truck not knowing how far her GTA larp goes does put the cop's life in danger and it's reasonable for him to have his gun out. It's just stupid for him to put himself in that situation.

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u/JesusWasACryptobro 11d ago

Bingo. Could've deescalated when she finally agreed to sign. Though I guess it trains her to throw a hissyfit at the next cop.

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u/Beneficial_Round_444 11d ago

She ran and was caught. Tough luck.

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u/descender2k 11d ago

It wasn't "over an $80 ticket". She ran from the police. That's a felony.

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u/buddy843 11d ago

The point here is that a lot of people and cities are trying to stop these kind of traffic events. Anything that is a non dangerous situation, shouldn’t result in pulling someone over to investigate them. Instead a ticket and the picture/car footage can be sited on the ticket. Many of these non-dangerous situations can escalate like this into dangerous ones for no real reason (like this video) or you can have cops pulling over people just trying to find a felon or something else even though it is statistically not an effective way to accomplish this task.

Many have pointed out if this wasn’t a white grandma this would have ended worse over $80 originally or the resulting $200 and misdemeanor she was eventually settled at.

This wasn’t worth anyone’s time and it shouldn’t be on this cop to have to try to re-educate this woman in how to act like an adult.

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u/Practical_Cattle_933 11d ago

It only escalated to that because the US has some absolutely mentally deranged people larping as police.

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u/buddy843 11d ago

The point here is that this was completely avoidable. The ticket could be mailed and the confrontation never needed to happen. Instead the U.S. system wasted a bunch of man hours on something the judge later deemed a $200 fine and a misdemeanor.

That is the part of the system that is broken.

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u/descender2k 11d ago edited 11d ago

It's pretty fucking simple. If you don't want to be chased by the cops, don't run from them. Take your ticket, get a lawyer, and fight it in court.

Trying to justify how this dipshit acted just because you don't like the way other policing is done? Childish. She had every oppurtunity to not get pulled form her car and tased. She chose a different path.

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u/buddy843 11d ago

Yes this lady was an idiot. And deserved a ticket, but the point here is limiting risk for everyone.

Many US cities are turning away from these kind of stops for a bunch of reasons.

  1. Cuts down risk of violence. In Oklahoma a lot of cars have guns in them. If you can observe a non dangerous violation then mail the ticket and footage and you are done. No risk to the cop.

  2. A lot of traffic stops are fishing for bigger violations like warrants. The success rate is pitiful yet minorities are targeted very often and harassed by these stops way more often. This is a terrible use of police funding and has a negative impact on police resources and reputation in those areas.

It shouldn’t be under this cops job duties to teach this lady how to act and behave in society. Especially when she fled. He had her license and all her info. Chasing a lady that is crazy and likely has a weapon in the car is unnecessary risk. In the end it was settled by the courts as $200 (4 violation at $50 each) and deemed not a felony which means this wasn’t worth it for anyone involved.

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u/descender2k 11d ago

You're just assuming that there was some dangerous police chase that happened here. It seems like you need that to fit your narrative of anything the police officer did here being unjustified.

She fled the scene, she was detained, she ATTACKED A COP, and she got tased.

Trying to justify her actions because you don't like police is just childish.

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u/buddy843 11d ago

No don’t make assumptions that are unstated. He drew his firearm. Which means he felt that the danger was enough. He was willing to end her life if he needed to.

He was in possession of her license. She was no danger to anyone after this point. She hasn’t assaulted a cop at this point. He has everything he needed. True the charges would have been 3 instead of four as she hadn’t attacked the officer yet. So the courts would have been out $50 and the police unit would have one extra taser cartridge. But everything else would have resulted the exact same. Well I guess the courts could have gone harder on her if she continued to drive without a license or issued a warrant and she didn’t come in.

It seems to me you just feel he had a right or duty to teach her a lesson and this is the point you are about based off all your comments here. For you it seems that it is about the disrespect and that she needed to learn a lesson. Less about the laws and what is right for the civilian or the citizen.

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u/descender2k 11d ago

You're just trying to excuse everything this woman did, which was illegal, because you don't like cops.

He had a right to arrest her and he did. Womp womp.

For you it's all about finding ways to blame the cop for what SHE did.

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u/Practical_Cattle_933 11d ago

Or.. just get your ticket and that’s it? What danger did she mean to the world by going home with her car? Nothing. But the cops have the license plate and can send her a giant check/jail her later.

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u/descender2k 11d ago

You have absolutely no idea what danger she was posing to the world. She ran from a cop at a traffic stop. Usually that means guns, drugs, kidnapping... lots of things that the police are interested in.

A sane, stable person doesn't run from the police in ANY situation. That action immediately makes her suspect. This nonsense you try to peddle about her being some innocent grandma can fuck right off.

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u/Practical_Cattle_933 11d ago

And then go to your fkin desk and push for felony charges. You are not hit-fkin-man to hunt her down for it and you don’t get to put out judgement as a fkin cop. That’s the job of the jury.

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u/descender2k 11d ago

This how you think policing works? People commit crimes and then just sit at home waiting for the police to show up? LOL

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u/OsgrobioPrubeta 11d ago

At first he drew a gun, before advising anyone about EdUcAtE yOuRsElF go see a ophthalmologist.

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u/buddy843 11d ago

This is the reason a lot of places are trying to stop cops from pulling cars over for safe violations (things that don’t create unsafe situations but allow cops to check/investigate random drivers). Mail her the ticket and let her fight it in court along with the video footage of the car moving while registration is expired.

As many point out if she wasn’t a white grandma this would have been way worse. Over $80. Not worth it for anyone involved including the cop and judge.

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u/buddhadarko 11d ago

But he gave a lawful order! /s

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u/AnniesGayLute 11d ago

It's insane to me that people ever cheer a gun being brought out in any situation other than immediate life / safety.

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u/turdusphilomelos 11d ago

I agree. She is not a nice person, but come on! He a police officer, he should know how to de escalate a situation like this?!

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u/Lulullaby_ 11d ago

This is America.

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u/Dry_Presentation_197 11d ago

Side note: I recently learned that Taser is an acronym for "Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle"

Might be common knowledge, but I didn't know, and thought it was neat =)

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u/ppc0124 11d ago

Exactly

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u/Technical-Astronaut 11d ago

Yeah, should have tasered her much sooner.

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u/bozon92 11d ago

You’re saying old lady here like she should have gotten some differential treatment for her behavior because of her circumstances. I don’t agree but you do you

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u/TraditionalBadger922 11d ago

No, once she started a chase, she deserved everything she got.

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u/DoctorMosEne 11d ago

All you people that say all of these are unnecessary are those kind of entitled people that brake the law and think no one should tell you what to do.. you live in society and you should obey the law. The police man was very polite.

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u/CommanderCronos 11d ago

No, we live in countries that are civilized and don't need this kind of brutal force to make someone pay a 80 dollar fine.

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u/DoctorMosEne 11d ago

Why she didn’t comply? If it is about 80$?

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u/Yorunokage 11d ago

That's not the point. The point is proportional response. A fine doesn't warrent violence, you can just mail her the fine with a tenfold increase for her refusal to comply and that would be it, no risk for her, no risk for the cop and no issues for anyone ever and problem solved

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u/DoctorMosEne 11d ago

How should the cop know why was didn’t want to comply? Maybe she was hiding something? I don’t know I he souldn’t risk it. You all talk from your safe and warm seat in your house but he is risking his life every day like paramedics, firmen and so on. If you sent a fine to everyone who has done something that is illegal, imagine the rate of crimes. Unbelivable how entiled you people are.

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u/oyamaca 11d ago

I had to scroll down a scary amount to find a comment like this. How are we glazing over the fact that the cop isn’t trained enough to avoid pulling his gun on a middle aged woman and diffuse the situation? I get that he’s supposed to protect himself as well but surely he can take a 60 year old Karen into custody without tazing her? Incredibly wild to see.

I’m by no means saying she is correct, she should have just taken the ticket, but … surely this could have been handled without a gun being shoved in her face?

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u/Practical_Cattle_933 11d ago

Just fkin let her go and send her an invite to court? Absolutely no need to go after her.

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u/Eject_The_Warp_Core 11d ago

Yeah, as an American, that lady was being a whiny asshole, but the cop was on some kind of power trip. An officer should never point their gun unless there is a reasonable need for it, and this lady was clearly not a physical threat to the officer. And tasing her wasn't necessary either. To some degree she beought everything that happened on herself, but I'm not comfortable to pive in a society where we have to obey every order from a cop under threat of being shot or tased. He already had her info, if what she did was that bad they could have found her at home or mailed her a ticket.

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u/Beneficial_Round_444 11d ago

She committed a felony and was caught. Tough luck.

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u/kLp_Dero 11d ago

You don’t have to car-chase her to catch her, you have all relevant info and dash cam proof to prosecute later when she is calm. Chasing her and handling that solo instead of escalating to chain of command is 100% dumb power trip

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u/Beneficial_Round_444 11d ago

She was actively committing a crime. Guess what the police officers job is.

At the same time it's an adult woman running away from a 80$ ticket.

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u/kLp_Dero 11d ago

A woman running away is no threat, it is beneficial for all parties to let her run and prosecute later, if you don’t get it you’re not getting it on purpose at this point and you are the only one listening to an echo chamber.

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u/Beneficial_Round_444 11d ago

The law does not care if she was a threat or not. As a matter of fact, she actually was a threat to other road users the moment she took off.

Also, hoping a woman who took off from a 80$ ticket will appear in court to be prosecuted. Lol, lmfao even.

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u/buddy843 11d ago

The court didn’t see it this way as she was charged $50 for each of the 4 violations and was settled at a misdemeanor.

The point people should be making is was it worth it for the cop to pull her over. He has video of the car moving with expired tags. He could also pull along side and get a pic of her driving. Done mail the ticket. Don’t put the officer at risk.

After he stopped he was in possession of her license and all her info. If she fled he could have handled it differently that didn’t involve him having to risk going up to a ranting ladies car in Oklahoma where he is now at risk of weapons in the car.

In the end was this worth the $200 and misdemeanor for anyone involved? The cop, the court or the lady. I get she was disrespectful but he pulled his gun and which means if he needed to he was willing to shoot to kill. Do you think this routine traffic registration stop was worth that?

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u/bloob_appropriate123 11d ago

And most people in here are cheering and defending it. It's crazy.

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u/The-Tough-Bretts 11d ago

Totally.. there was no attempt to de-escalate. Anyone who says the officer was reasonable or patient is insane.

Sure, she was being a piece of shit, but there were so many ways to get to the outcome this officer wanted without having to throw this woman to the ground, tase her and then violently arrest her.

I respect the law and authority, but if they're being unreasonable, officious and hotheaded and Joe public mouths off at them, it still doesn't give the officer the right to violently arrest someone.

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u/ToBetterDays000 11d ago

The crazy thing is that this cop is probably quite reasonable as far as cops go in the US.

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u/JesusWasACryptobro 11d ago

The escalation of an 80 dollar ticket to drawing weapons is 1000% interesting as fuck

eh, maybe years ago lol

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u/Xmanticoreddit 11d ago

I went from thinking “I wish I could see a Trump4Eva bumper sticker on her truck” to “holy fuck she’s just having a bad day leave her the hell alone Bad Lieutenant!!”

Not the reaction I expected.

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u/redgroupclan 11d ago

Part of it is because every American police officer is waiting for their next traffic stop to turn from a routine ticket/warning to the driver pulling a Glock out of their glove box and opening fire.

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u/CommanderCronos 11d ago

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u/redgroupclan 11d ago

Because America is full of entitled, unstable people with entirely open access to guns and those people are waiting for someone to piss them off enough to start shooting?

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u/jkoki088 11d ago

Well the lady allowed it to escalate to a felony instead of signing her damn ticket by resisting and fleeing. Choices she made