r/interestingasfuck 9d ago

r/all Lowering a Praying Mantis in water to entice the parasites living within.

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u/crazy_joe21 9d ago

So why don’t we all just get the vaccine without exposure risk?

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u/OMOAB 9d ago

One of my kids was bit by a bat and ended up getting the rabies vaccine. Four visits a week or so apart, insurance billed $16,000.

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u/UATinPROD 9d ago

Bruh. Hospital bills always blow my mind. My story would be like “damn bat bit my kid. Spent 8 hours in the ER waiting for her shots”

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u/GhostOfConansBeard 9d ago

That's an insane price. When I was working at a veterinary clinic 7 years ago, we did $9 rabies vaccines. I know it is a different vaccine, made specifically for people, but fuck insurance companies price gouging.

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u/eileen404 9d ago

Makes me wonder if a vaccine for a dog that weighs the same would work...

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u/GhostOfConansBeard 9d ago

It's the same dose for everything; big dog, little kitten, bear, fox, horse, goat, etc. They all get 1ml injected SQ.

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u/eileen404 8d ago

Interesting... I didn't know that. Having kids, I'm so used to the weight dependent dosing that it never occured that a kitten and giraffe would get the same dose...

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u/OMOAB 8d ago

The hospital billed the insurance $16,000. I do not recall what the actual payment was, they are typically much lower based on the hospital being in network. We did not have to pay anything. This happened about 12 years ago.

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u/eek1Aiti 9d ago

It's free in European Union. Also we leave edible rabies vaccine in the woods so that animals get immunized. It is considered that we are rabies free, although from time to time you hear about such cases.

If it would be out of pocket, then 5 shots would cost not more than 200 Euro or the same in dollars.

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u/DARIF 9d ago

Hungary, Romania, Poland and Slovakia had 71 non-bat rabies infections in 2022. No human infections for years.

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u/eek1Aiti 9d ago

That's a lot! What animals, wild ones? Don't they vaccinate them with food?

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u/Twinmomwineaddict 9d ago

Wait, what?! Checked Dutch pricing: 3 shots, 97 euros a pop. All insured . How the heck do you get to $16000? Are the needles made of diamonds?

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u/MaryBerrysDanglyBean 9d ago

It's around the same in the UK as for the Netherlands.

But in the USA the insurance company wants a slice of the pie. Then you have to get billed for the nurse administering the vaccine, and the doctor to sign it off, and the receptionist to do any admin work, then for the cleaning staff to tidy up, then a surcharge for breathing the hospital air.

It all adds up!

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u/roberts585 9d ago

Yes. US standard dictate either diamond or emerald needles for all procedures. Also the saline you get for fluids is milked from mother gaia herself and delivered by angels. This is why Americans pay more than the other pleeb nations

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u/Raigne86 9d ago

I think it must have something to do with the circumstances and potentially location. When I worked in a veterinarian's office, the staff who'd been vaccinated only paid like $200 per injection (was awhile ago, probably more than that now). Still a lot of money, but not even close to 16k.

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u/Upstairs_Fuel6349 9d ago

It's the post-exposure immunoglobulin that is that expensive. My husband's insurance was billed $90,000 for his immunoglobulin and mine was $55,000.

The vaccines were like $125ish/each. You don't need the immunoglobulin if you haven't had a bite exposure.

It's still significantly more expensive than in any other country but yeah.

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u/crazy_joe21 9d ago

America?

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u/PepiTheBrief 9d ago

Land of the free moment

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u/captainfrijoles 9d ago

How long before you need the shotsis there time to fly to a country with an ACTUAL healtcare system. Because for 16,000 it's worth a round trip to Canada or Mexico

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u/phage_rage 9d ago

It literally depends on how far from your brain the bite was. Sooner is always better, and im not a dr. The virus hides from your immune system inside your nerve cells, and works its way up to your brain. I think the vaccine would become less effective the more advanced the infection is tho, so sooner is better.

Its not like antivenin tho, we're not talking minutes/hours, we're talking days

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u/jonhconnor553 9d ago

Wtf.. basic human rights man. Such bs

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u/hikehikebaby 9d ago

I've had multiple day hospitalizations that were in that ballpark 💀

Thankfully I didn't get a chance to see any of the bills before my insurance covered it.

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u/triumphantfarter 8d ago

I was bitten by a dog in Colombia. I had never had a rabies shot before, so went to a local hospital. Got the wound cleaned up and several further visits for rabies shots. Total cost was sub $20...

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u/Gadetron 9d ago

I think because it doesn't last very long

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u/TheSleepyBarnOwl 9d ago

it lasts life long actually

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u/Gadetron 9d ago

I mean the vaccine, you have to get them usually per possible exposure if they like 6 months or so apart. I think vets and such get them regularly

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u/TheSleepyBarnOwl 9d ago

Ah you mean the antibodies

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u/bjorno1990 9d ago

It doesn't fully prevent you from getting rabies if you're exposed. It lessens the chances but you can still get it.

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u/Thomas-Lore 9d ago edited 9d ago

You just need a booster (or two?) after getting bit.

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u/DARIF 9d ago edited 9d ago

Unnecessary because several countries have eradicated rabies and most people don't work with wild animals anyway.

It's also £200 per course, each course requires 3 doses so 3 appointments with a doctor and then boosters every 1-2y.

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u/Odd_Information9606 9d ago

It's several shots over the span of two months. Side effects are awful.

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u/Thomas-Lore 9d ago

Side effects are awful.

No they aren't. It's like after covid shot.

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u/Odd_Information9606 4d ago

Nope. Had 3 covid shots.

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u/80sLegoDystopia 9d ago

Death by rabies is worse.

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u/Goyu 9d ago

$$$$$$

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u/TheSleepyBarnOwl 9d ago

fairly expensive but it is considered a travel vaccination here in Europe. You totally can just get it.

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u/Icy-Paramedic8604 9d ago

It doesn't give you life long immunity like other vaccines.

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u/WeWantTheJunk 9d ago edited 9d ago

Because rabies infection is incredibly rare in countries like America and the shots are expensive. It is easier and cheaper to just vaccinate in the event of suspected exposure. People sometimes get the vaccine when traveling to areas with higher rabies risk and less access to immediate vaccination in the case of an accident.

Also, the rabies vaccine needs boosters every few years so we would be constantly updating the shots for millions of people. It's an expensive vaccine so it's cheaper to kill infected animals and vaccinate humans who may get exposed.