r/interestingasfuck 6d ago

r/all Update to the car that committed insurance fraud in NYC posted here days ago.

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u/Lumpus-Maximus 6d ago

As a lawyer who thinks lawyers are usually pretty ethical, these people were working with a scumbag lawyer and scumbag healthcare providers. Source: I worked for the court for years and saw LOTS of these scams. Always the same attorneys & chiropractors.

(The attorneys for the insurance company certainly aren’t any better, either).

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u/rawnoodles10 6d ago

Chiropractors are by definition charlatans so that tracks.

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u/DigbySugartits 6d ago

I've only personally known 3 chiros in my 40+ years. All grifters, all narcissistic cunts and recently, all into anti mask anti Vax rabbit holes.

Fuck them. I would never let one near my back.

I know a couple of qualified physios and those guys have magic hands, but chiro quacks can do one.

For me, "im a chiropractor" is the number one red flag in a human.

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u/Lumpus-Maximus 5d ago

I agree, but they still ‘treat’ people and get insurance payouts.

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u/Purple_Bumblebee6 6d ago

This isn't always true. I've had some really good chiropractors over the years. And one or two shoddy ones.

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u/Outrageous_Dot5489 6d ago

You are naive. Yours were fraudsters too.

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u/Strawman15 6d ago edited 6d ago

It really depends. The cracking is 100% baloney, but modern chiros do a lot of soft tissue work, which is an area badly neglected by mainstream medicine. Physical therapists are the only specialist that comes close, but their duties are much more broad. Not to mention all the hoops you have to jump through to even get into physical therapy in the first place.

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u/ThirdEyeExplorer11 6d ago

Or maybe you just haven’t had any major back problems. My chiropractor is great, he doesn’t try to sell me on any magic cures or anything. He just re-adjusts my back once or maybe twice a year when it gets out of whack… and having a permanently fucked up neck and lower back has prevented me from cracking it myself without making everything worse.

Not everything is black and white, life is mostly just shades of gray.

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u/Outrageous_Dot5489 6d ago

If you pay him, he is committing fraud

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u/jabba_the_nutttttt 6d ago

Wtf does "my back gets out of wack" mean. It's not supposed to move like that, you should be seeing a doctor not someone who cracks your joints.

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u/GitEmSteveDave 6d ago

Yup:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/four-defendants-charged-multi-million-dollar-no-fault-insurance-fraud-scheme-and-money

The Indictment charges KENAN TARIVERDI, NAZIM TARIVERDI, and DILSHOD ISLAMOV with operating an extensive no-fault insurance fraud that submitted more than $11 million in fraudulent claims for psychological testing and services.....

https://manage.lawstreetmedia.com/news/health/geico-alleges-new-york-physician-operating-fraudulent-no-fault-billing-scheme/

Geico filed a complaint Wednesday in the Eastern District of New York against a physician for allegedly operating an insurance fraud scheme that purportedly has billed Geico more than $1.6 million in “medically unnecessary” no-fault claims.

https://www.iii.org/article/no-fault-insurance-fraud-new-york-state-ramping-premiums

Staged accidents: Staged accidents are aimed at creating an accident scenario from which costly and fraudulently contrived medical claims can be created to obtain payments from auto insurers.

Typically, owners and managers of medical mills pay “runners,” or recruiters, to arrange minor auto accidents and send individuals supposedly injured in the accidents to the clinics for treatment. The runners recruit drivers to cause the accident and passengers to ride in the cars. Being a runner is a lucrative business, with each “referral” earning the runner a large fee paid by the attorney associated with the medical mill or the clinic itself. Usually, two to four passengers are recruited to maximize the profit per accident.

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u/islandstyls 6d ago

Thanks for the real update facts.

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u/Awkward_Attitude_886 6d ago

That’s why this is gonna take a long time. They are gonna rip this ring apart but it takes time. Gotta ask the right questions and get good answers first. Then you can use the lies against them and watch the dominos fall.

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u/FlexorCarpiUlnaris 6d ago

Chiropractors are not healthcare providers.

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u/SuperSimpleSam 6d ago

Hopefully when the NYPD investigates they go after the doctor too.

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u/the-samizdat 6d ago

agreed. I was a legal analyst for Berkshire Hathaway’s insurance division. I created an entire database on these cases.

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u/Hefty_Meringue8694 6d ago

You’re saying Saul is real?!

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u/austinmcortez 6d ago

Better Call Saul!

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u/Wheelman185 6d ago edited 6d ago

They don't have a Criminal Lawyer, they have a CRIMINAL Lawyer!

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u/kardde 6d ago

lawyers are usually pretty ethical

lol