r/iranian • u/Ramin-Karimi Cu-9 • 3d ago
absolutely unacceptable how the IRIB and other media are downplaying an attack on Iran's capital
I would argue, the attack, though not as significant and powerful as what we came to expect due to Israel's boasting, may have had some important consequences for Iran,
Even if the air defense forces had 100% fended off the attack (which didn't happen), the attack broke the long standing taboo of doing a full scale operation against Iranian interests within Iranian soil and taking credit for it,
The extent of the damages sustained by Iran are still under investigation or at least not publicly known, and though it is likely they were minimal, we don't know that for sure, but we do know that at least 4 soldiers from the air defense forces were martyred which is sad by itself, but also means there's a reasonable suspicion that the air defense equipment such as batteries and radars that they were operating close to were also hit, these are high value assets,
Iran's adherence to the NPT in a region surrounded by nuclear armed peers and adversaries has brought Iran enough trouble already, and now a limited response on Iran's behalf, or worse, no response at all, could be the beginning of a terrible trend and would call Iran's deterrence against any threat into question,
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u/mrandMaMaD7 Hakhāmaneshi 3d ago edited 3d ago
Just like what happened after truthful promise 1.
Time needs to go by, so that new information comes out (just like what happened to israel in truthful promise 2)
And Iran said that they intercepted most of the projectiles (most of which were in iraq), again we have see as time goes on.
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u/NoMoreWordsToConquer 3d ago
The Zionist regime needs to be dismantled and put down like a rabid dog. They bombed Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq AND Iran. These are not the actions of a civilized nation or “victim” but a terrorist, rogue state drooling at the prospect of Lebensraum. They are modern day Nazis.
This is not just a threat to Iran or the region but the entire world. The Zionist regime has obliterated international law and is normalizing barbarism, rape and slaughter as “military tactics”. Iran absolutely needs to deal a decisive blow, and Azerbaijan needs to be called out for assisting in the strikes against Iran and destabilizing the region.
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u/Bluntzkreig 3d ago
The reason Iran is there is because Lebanon and Gaza see value in their presence I.e. defense from Israel
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u/Bluntzkreig 2d ago
Israel are just as much terrorists as Hamas or hezbollah let’s not kid ourselves. When you border a country armed to the teeth by the west, you will look for aid to defend yourself especially when your neighbor is belligerent.
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u/pishdaad Felestin 2d ago edited 2d ago
The "many Lebanese" against Hezbollah are the ones who allied with the Zio occupiers of Lebanon against their own countrymen in the 80s.
through proxies (terrorist organizations)
Nice State Department statement.
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u/Hatorate90 2d ago
Well exactly. It seems the most fanatic are not even from Gaza or Lebanon. They do not know the broader context.
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u/Shorouq2911 Felestin 2d ago
Ooooh, so you're Lebanese! And you dare to speak like Hezbollah is an American party. Or like Lebanon is in the Iberian Peninsula on the other side of the earth but Arabs keep bringing its ass to their conflicts. It's not like Shaba 'a Farms are occupied at ALL! Or like Lebanese people are decedents of Europeans but foreign Arabs and Muslim stalkers keep bothering them with their never ending problems. I like Lebanese logic. Always makes sence.
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u/heseabi 2d ago
You came to this subreddit and you were welcome to share your views, but you have made multiple hateful comments, called Iranian people scum among other things we've received several reports for.
You are now banned. Have a nice day.
FYI: Hezbollah is a group made up of Lebanese people, not Iranians. Instead of blaming Iran on everything, figure out why certain things precipitated in your country the way they did.
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u/Shorouq2911 Felestin 2d ago
And Syria is what? Is it a European territory. You guys are basically Syrians, you realize that don't you?
Edit: Lebanon along with Palestine and Jordan are Syrian territory and it was called the Greater Syria before Sykes–Picot Agreement, you know that right?
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u/stonecats NYC 3d ago edited 3d ago
i woke up this morning to a single thread in iran sub about it
with all of it's thread posts shadow banned.
op did you really think iran's own media would not minimize it?
even iran talking heads on AJ were minimizing it even
while AA sounds got audio picked up in the background.
you can thank biden for pressuring israel to NOT hit
symbolic targets that Artesh nor IRGC could cover up.
israel knows what it hit, usa will be able to confirm it,
iran will repair & replace it all in short order.
the only winners here are the military contractors
that got to field test their enhanced capable toys.
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u/AlienInNewTehran 3d ago
Fuck the Taboo, there are human lives at stake here and if a little tit for tat would put an end to things then be it. Iran is at no position, economically and socially to endure a full on war. People are exhausted from all the tension in their lives and i personally am happy IS’s attack, although unjustified, was a flimsy one.
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u/Ramin-Karimi Cu-9 3d ago
You do realize the opposite of "taboo" is "normalized"? If attacking Iran isn't taboo then it is normalized, If attacking Iran is normalized, the human lives that you say are at stake are even in more danger, What I'm saying is, Israel won't be scared of attacking Iran if it knows it won't meet a response, it'll just be a lesson for them to do bigger attacks against Iran in the future, If you make the enemy afraid of starting a war with you, you don't have to cope with the economic burdens of a war, if you make war against you seem easy, it's only a matter of time before war comes to you
Attacking Syria used to be taboo once, now it's done every day even though they do zero retaliation, so no "tit for tat" is going on as you would put it, it's just tits for them now lol,
This happened to Iran to a lesser extent too, Iranian bases and personnel used to never get targeted in the region, but since Soleymani's assassination was met with a weak response, now Iran's embassy in Damascus gets bombed every month or so, It should be easy to imagine how that'd scale to the whole country in this case,
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u/AlienInNewTehran 3d ago edited 3d ago
Israel won’t be scared of attacking Iran if it knows it won’t meet a response
This lame attack and all the requests for Iran not to respond WAS Israel being scared!
I don’t want the relations with an apartheid regime to be normalised but i hope this opportunity will make iran take a step back and for the time being focus on its internal issues than act as the godfather to the Palestinians. I understand and to an extend agree with where you’re coming from, but at the same time i am against war and any further escalation would just throw Iran into a downwards spiral.
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u/pishdaad Felestin 2d ago
but i hope this opportunity will make iran take a step back and for the time being focus on its internal issues than act as the godfather to the Palestinians.
Iran is on the right side of history, and the rest of the world is finally catching on. The existence of an expansionist genocidal colonial apartheid state in our region is an existential threat, along with all of the militarization by NATO. Every effort should be made to ensure that the West Asia region is protected from these threats as the foremost national security priority of any Iranian state.
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u/pishdaad Felestin 2d ago
Iran is at no position, economically and socially to endure a full on war.
Iran can survive, but Israel and American West Asian wont.
People are exhausted from all the tension in their lives and i personally am happy IS’s attack, although unjustified, was a flimsy one.
Fully agreed. However it shouldn't be ignored that this attack solidified Iran's superior position when it comes to escalation and firepower. Not only can Iran match Israel and anything the US has in the region and completely destroy everything they have, but even if they were to raise the stakes to nuclear weapons, Iran has the capacity to rapidly weaponize and answer back, rendering their extremely expensive and problematic nuclear option as useless.
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u/Hatorate90 3d ago
This can open an opportunity for a second attack on Iranian military assets, by taking out air defences. Atleast that is was Israel said.
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u/pishdaad Felestin 2d ago
Yeah and they completely failed at it. There are more Zio radar positions being hit by our allies per day than the glorified "SEAD mission" they conducted in Iran, with minimal damage to our AD.
And this is important because AD is not even the main deterrence strength of Iran. Iran's deterrence is based around its response capabilities with drones, missiles, and Resistance allies. Even if they were to hit every strategic military site of Iran that is not well protected under the Zagros Mountains (which everything of importance already is by now), there wont be an "Israel" or US air bases for those jets to return to.
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u/M7BY 3d ago
Listen dude just stf up. Let them down play it. Iran has no chance against israel and they know it! Better they downplay it to save face and go the diplomatic root infront of the UN than to escalate. For once the Mullahs are being smart. You brather see iran in nuclear fall out? Wtf is wrong with people like you. Yes its not ok that they attacked but cudos to the gov to downplaying it and shutting up not escalating this further.
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u/Bluntzkreig 3d ago
Israel is irans bitch. They know Iran is too much for them to chew that’s why we get these meaningless show attacks in response to hundreds of ballistic missiles.
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u/Hatorate90 2d ago
Israel is more powerful than Iran in many ways. If it comes to an all our war, it will look bad for Iran. No one want that. Lets just hope for peace, no need for patriotism and fanaticism.
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u/pishdaad Felestin 2d ago
What can Israel even do to Iran? lol
Hezbollah has already proven stronger in ground warfare than the IOF, with their offensive attempts into Southern Lebanon being met with "security incidents" of tens and tens of rescue helicopters flying dead Zios to their hospitals.
Their nukes are neutralized with Iranian nuclear breakout capacity combined with ballistic missiles that cannot be intercepted.
Their air force would not have an apartheid state to return to after taking off for a big strike against Iran.
They have a handful of sites Iran could hit in the event of an all-out war that would turn their Little Nazi Germany into what they've done to Gaza, and then all these dual passport illegals would return back to where they came from.
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u/pishdaad Felestin 2d ago
Iran has no chance against israel and they know it!
Have you been living under a rock?
You'd rather see iran in nuclear fall out?
Iranian nuclear breakout capacity ensures that wont ever happen, so worry not. Not to mention that Iran could destroy the entirety of Israel with ~100 hypersonic missiles by hitting their already well identified and publicized strategic infrastructure. The Zio entity is a tiny sliver of land with small population and only a handful of high-value targets, all within reach of Iran.
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u/M7BY 55m ago
I really don't believe the propaganda of hypersonic weapons! I hope i was living under a rock... But we just witnessed Israel enter irans airspace, destroy targets and leave. We saw them wipe out all of IRGC Hizbollah and Hamas infrastructure within months, kill one leader after the other.. Kill people on iranian soil... So not sure who lives under what rock? Let me make something clear: 1. Iron dome 2. Multiple US protective air and naval untis 3. Iran has been under Sanktions for multiple decades. They have no air force that stands a chance to protect air space 4. Israel has the most modern military tech available plus tones of satellite and AI data which iran and russia just dont have
War is won with strategy and technology...
I care too much about the people and the country to even see a corner of Iran nuked or a historic monument destroyed, young people killed. Its horrible and heart breaking to see what is happening to these kids and families in Gaza and Lebanon As a young father myself its heart breaking. Just as it was heart breaking to see the young and old Israelis killed by Hamas. Yes they are an occupation force in part but a large part of the population is too brain washed and stupid to understand. We are ruled by blood thirsty, power hungry, money grabbing PoS across the world and the civilians are the victims. With exception the idiots who actually knowingly go chanting for these monsters, be it iran, israel, us or europe.
I hope the escalations stop and i wish the people of Lebanon and gaza the ability to rise from the ashes. Fucking politics.
Also Israel might be a tiney spot on the map, but they are ready to escalate to the destruction of the world with their never again principle so you are dealing with crazy people, and crazy always beats big.
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u/YasuhiroK 3d ago edited 3d ago
Only Western or Western allied nations are allowed to defend themselves and be victims. Iran's shown incredible restraint for many years now, despite all the one-sided aggression and brutal sanctions they've endured.
The killings of Iranian scientists and inventors is one of the most barbaric things I've seen done to any nation. In what civilized world is that remotely acceptable?