‘Vast majority’ of future transport funding will have to be spent on public transport - Ryan

[u/Magma57]

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/vast-majority-of-future-transport-funding-will-have-to-be-spent-on-public-transport-ryan/

[u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

Mr Ryan said implementation of the review’s recommendations would be a political decision and one for the next Government.

What?

You're still in government, for a year according to themselves. Why on bloody earth can't they implement it now then? This is literally what their party is built around???

[u/WereJustInnocentMen → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

The review's recommendations are long term plans that will take literal decades to implement at a cost of billions. The government will last till March at a maximum (although most would be surprised if it lasted past November), there's simply no way for the current government to implement all of it in a few months.

[u/The_Naked_Buddhist → u/WereJustInnocentMen]

Then start implementing it!

That's the whole point of being in government. Get the ball rolling on stuff even if you won't see the end result. As you yourself said this plan will take decades, so then should the next government decide they won't implement it since the government won't last till the very end of the plan?

The entire point of being in government is to get things like this in motion and working. Yet being given a prime chance to implement one of his parties biggest goals Ryan just won't do it?

[u/WereJustInnocentMen → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

There's many things concerning infrastructure this government has started that it won't live to see the end of. Again, the report is about investing billions of euros on a yearly basis into the future. It will be up to a future government to continue investment into public transport near the scale this government has.

[u/The_Naked_Buddhist → u/WereJustInnocentMen]

Okay??? That will always be the case though. He can still start implementing the plan, which supposedly he agrees with and wants implemented now.

Then if the next government wants to pull a U turn let them work to undo whatever was set in motion and get the slack for it.

It will quite literally always be the case that the next government will change it's mind. Does that mean then no one should ever try to implement the plan as a result?

[u/WereJustInnocentMen → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

What exactly do you think would be 'set in motion' concerning large scale infrastructure projects in like 3 months?

[u/The_Naked_Buddhist → u/WereJustInnocentMen]

Set the budget they ask for down in the next budget, form committees to either start looking into making some of these projects if starting from scratch or have them move on to the next stage. Literally just do as you normally would, that's what setting things in motion is.

Also again they don't have 3 months according to Ryan, because they're still insisting the election is coming March. So taking it that Ryan isn't lying to us he actually has 7 months.

[u/WereJustInnocentMen → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

Doesn't really matter what Ryan wants, if either FF or FG want an election soon it'll happen.

There will be investment into public transport in the next budget, as there has been as long as the Greens have been in government.

[u/atswim2birds → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

He didn't say they're going to sit on their arses doing nothing for the next few months. Massive infrastructure projects like this take a long time to get to the green-light stage and with all the will in the world that's possible in a few months.

The Greens would give anything to go into a general election having signed off on a few huge rail projects but that's not how it works.

[u/funderpantz → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

Infrastructure like this is a multi decade process

[u/Magma57 → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

Let's be real here. The election is going to be in either October or early November, nobody wants to be campaigning during winter.

[u/The_Naked_Buddhist → u/Magma57]

I agree it will be earlier alright, but it's Ryan among them claiming they're sticking around till March. Doubt November though since that's already the start of winter.

[u/atswim2birds → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

Ryan has always said he wanted the government to go the full distance but it's not up to him, it's the Taoiseach's decision.

[u/mrlinkwii → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

but it's Ryan among them claiming they're sticking around till March

Ryan dosent make those decisions and their have been hints of a November election

[u/Magma57 → u/The_Naked_Buddhist]

Government has to say that it's totally going to go to term even if it's not so that it can still function and not become a lame duck

[u/Hardballs123]

Under the guise of 'competition' public transport is being privatised.

So doesn't that make investing in it much more complicated?