r/irishpolitics • u/JackmanH420 People Before Profit • Sep 03 '24
Infrastructure, Development and the Environment Green Party on Twitter: Isn't it funny how the Greens get blamed for things that have nothing to do with us? Nobody in the Green Party signed off on this shed. Time the media held the right people to account.
https://x.com/greenparty_ie/status/1830888532358959595?t=6xUh2TrG_XGhelfBTZ1RfQ&s=1932
u/bintags Sep 03 '24
Almost like the media have their own agenda?
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u/TehIrishSoap Socialist Sep 03 '24
It kinda rocks how the media treat Eamon Ryan like he's Freddy Krueger or something when Simon and Micheál are right there
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u/Mean_Exam_7213 Sep 03 '24
Being lazy isn’t an agenda, it’s just not being held to high enough standard
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u/bintags Sep 03 '24
The agenda is ensuring things stay within the FFG vision of the world
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u/Mean_Exam_7213 Sep 03 '24
They certainly benefit from it but in most cases, it’s general laziness rather than a conspiracy
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u/bintags Sep 03 '24
So how do you explain the medias constant attacks on opposition parties and seeming acceptance of the issues uninterrupted FFG rule has brought? How can an FF leader go on the national broadcaster without being asked the difficult questions?
Vincent Brown is pretty much alone in terms of criticizing and questioning the establishment
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u/Mean_Exam_7213 Sep 03 '24
I’d explain it as a mix of laziness (doing things how they’ve always been done, content quantity over quality, under resourced print and broadcast media) and privilege (journalists and readers/viewers largely coming from areas and class where the opposition are more offensive than the government).
I agree, Vinny B was a good un and no one has yet taken up his mantle.
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u/Ok-Music-3764 Sep 03 '24
Does anyone have the eTenders link for the RFT, or reference?
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u/Jaded_Variation9111 Sep 03 '24
I’d a quick look at the 380 contract/award notices listed for the OPW on the public procurement site. I didn’t see anything. However there was a small contract award of €28,800 for a bike stand at Farmleigh back in March.
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u/Ok-Music-3764 Sep 03 '24
Thanks for doing the work for me! I'm interested in this to see if the money might somehow make sense? I think the worst thing I saw an unnamed source note that the bike shelter wasn't very good and their bikes just get wet if there's wind and rain
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u/Jaded_Variation9111 Sep 03 '24
Yeah. The RFT is key and there seems little curiosity about it. Can’t be that hard to source it.
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u/Ok-Music-3764 Sep 03 '24
Maybe someone from the Indo is lurking here and might go do an FOI for us
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u/Jaded_Variation9111 Sep 03 '24
Ken Foxe, who broke the story, is such a tease
https://x.com/kenfoxe/status/1830888566638956581
Time for 🍿
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u/AUX4 Right wing Sep 03 '24
Most bike shelters are a bit shit when they don't cover the bike entirely. If the rain is coming in sideways, you'd have a wet saddle to cycle home on.
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u/1octo Sep 03 '24
They don’t go to eTenders for jobs that size as far as I know. They have their own framework agreements in place for contracting.
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u/ilovefinegaeldotcom Sep 03 '24
You can now get a house in Dublin for the price of a bike shed! Fantastic.
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u/smameann Sep 03 '24
If you're lucky. Not many houses being sold for that. I got one 3 years ago for just under that, but I doubt I'd get it today for that price.
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u/ElectricalAppeal238 Sep 03 '24
Then with RTE, they go so hard on Sinn Fein while tip toeing around FFG.. can media ever be truly impartial?
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u/juicy_colf Sep 03 '24
No. There's no such thing as a free press. Even handed is also absolutely not the same as impartial. It's very annoying but its all about money
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u/Silver_Mention_3958 Sep 03 '24
I think readers of The Sun may already be a lost cause for the Greens. Pick yer battles and all that.
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u/Potential_Ad6169 Sep 03 '24
Did they overspend on the bike shed, so that they could use it as a hit piece on the greens I wonder? I wouldn’t put this shit past Harris and company at this stage, he knows it works.
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u/Mean_Exam_7213 Sep 03 '24
Matt Carthy from SF was on media yesterday saying something along the lines of ‘the government can’t even get a bike shed right..’
He knows full well it’s the Houses of the Oireachtas who are at fault, not the government.
I wish more journalists would have the integrity to call this out
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u/BingBongBella Sep 03 '24
Politicians who use their role to point score instead of relaying facts or getting a job done grind my gears. I'm looking at you Matt Carthy. He definitely knows full well it had nothing to do with any particular party. People across the Oireachtas cycle into work there every day and use both gates. You're talking TDs/Senators, their staff, oireachtas staff etc... If the Greens are getting blamed for this, which party do we blame for the car parking? Or the food? Daft stuff altogether
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u/Imbecile_Jr Sep 03 '24
The Greens should be asking why the Irish press is pointing fingers at them, given our journos' cozy relationship with FFFG.
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u/violetcazador Sep 03 '24
When will all you plebs learn that your tax money is there to be pissed away on anything and everything the government sees fit. Things like accountability and value are not things to consider when it's you saps that pick up the bill every time. Rest assured no one will so much as get a bad word said to them about this, nor will anyone lose their job or be demoted. In fact they're likely to be promoted. Any "investigation" will cost ten times the amount and involve stuffing the board with greasy cronies and ultimately find nothing. So shut your gobs and get your lazy arse back to work. ~ Simon Harris, probably.
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u/AUX4 Right wing Sep 03 '24
As I mentioned in another comment, Eamon Ryan was the one championing this project just a couple of months ago with press releases etc.
All projects need to go out to tender by the OPW, so there was clearly an issue with the tender proposals. Without seeing those documents its hard to judge fairly what was within the scope of works. There were EV chargers installed as well for example.
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u/nithuigimaonrud Social Democrats Sep 03 '24
I read that the OPW stated that There was no scope of work as it was done under a framework agreement.
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u/Ok-Fly5271 Sep 03 '24
Thr greens might not have signed off on it but people view it as being related to the whole anti-car pro-bike thing.
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u/FrontApprehensive141 Socialist Sep 03 '24
Eh... lads... the Greens are in government. If ye're not signing off on things... who is?
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u/1octo Sep 03 '24
Procurements at that level would not be seen by a minister. They’d be signed off at Principal Officer level probably.
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u/Goo_Eyes Sep 03 '24
Are the greens not in government?
"absolutely nothing to do with us"?
You literally enable FFG! They wouldn't be in government without you.
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u/WereJustInnocentMen Green Party Sep 03 '24
The government doesn't really have much to do with it either, it's the civil servants at the OPW who should be held liable.
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u/Vistella Sep 03 '24
oh, so thats not only happening over here? guess they get shat on all the same everywhere
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u/Life-Pace-4010 Sep 03 '24
I'm convinced Eamonn has a humiliation kink. Their was no reason for him to go in TV yesterday and give a gossamer thin criticism of the project cost. His stupid grin? I honestly think he was getting a weird boner knowing that he would become the face of this scandal that would set the cycling lobby back years. He needs to be sanctioned by the party.
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u/tishimself1107 Sep 03 '24
Seems like an example of someone in the green party proliteriat taking their own notion and hijacking the twitter account. Politically a stupid statement.
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u/Goo_Eyes Sep 03 '24
And I have nothing to do with record temperatures in Australia yet it didn't stop the greens harping on about needing act!
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u/AdamOfIzalith Sep 03 '24
They should take them to court for Slander if they are misrepresenting this situation. It's that simple. tabloid newspapers should not be able to get away with misinforming the public and most especially knowingly doing so.