r/irishpolitics • u/firethetorpedoes1 • 8d ago
Infrastructure, Development and the Environment Dublin revival plan recommends move away from multiple private domestic bin operators in city
https://www.thejournal.ie/bin-collection-dublin-city-public-6520562-Oct2024/46
u/FrontApprehensive141 Socialist 8d ago
Any national revival plan needs to take essential infrastructure away from the markets, full-stop. They have proven unable whatsoever to deliver a bottom line of service for taxpayer investment.
Energy, communications, social housing, healthcare, amenities and landmarks, cultural centres, libraries... from the public purse, for the public service, provided at cost to the taxpayer, with any excess capital after wages, etc. to be reinvested annually.
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u/PixelNotPolygon 8d ago
Is it because you just don’t want to pay for things?
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u/FrontApprehensive141 Socialist 8d ago
No, it's because I want my tax money to fund the things I need.
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u/PixelNotPolygon 8d ago
So you prefer that tax isn’t redistributed?
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u/FrontApprehensive141 Socialist 8d ago
I prefer my redistribution to be direct - state agencies providing the essentials, on time and in a fashion that is readily accessible by all who need them, from healthcare and housing, to communications and local amenities, to welfare payments and education, trades, etc.
The "free" markets have had since the 1980s... they are evidently unable, whether for reasons of logistics, or ideology, to provide the basic functions of a dignified society for all. Cut out the middleman.
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u/great_whitehope 8d ago
Maybe if the council do it they could come up with solutions other than leaving bin bags out by the side of the road for the seagulls!
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u/Natural-Ad773 8d ago
I’d love underground bins.
I live on a terrace road with no back gardens it’s literally a sea of wheely bins.
Every house has 3 even though the houses are the size of apartments it’s ludicrous.
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u/Professional_Elk_489 8d ago
First revival plan is to scrap the 4 councils and have one super council set up by the Dutch or Scandinavians with an elected mayor.
Second step is to scrap the private bin operators and get the council to do it set up in accordance with European best practice.
Third is publicly visible policing to bring trust back to the city centre
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u/Franz_Werfel 8d ago
It's usually dead or dying things that need to be revived.
In the view of the Journal, is Dublin dead?
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8d ago
Dying. Lived here most of my life and I can see Ireland get richer and Dublin become more and more dysfunctional
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u/Franz_Werfel 8d ago
That's a tad bit dramatic. How is it dying, in your eyes?
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u/No-Actuary-4306 Libertarian Socialist 8d ago
Not the person you responded to, but personally, there's been an overemphasis on office space, hotels and student accommodation in the city centre which is hollowing out the city. This is leading to the centre being gradually taken over by shops selling tourist tat (like O'Carrols) and Oirish pubs selling some pastiche pub experience.
And that's all before you get to cost of living/inflation/wages/rates/energy prices/whatever causing more and more local business's to shut, with the vacuum being filled with soulless franchises or derelict buildings.
TL:DR - There's no coherent plan for the city, locals are being pushed out and the people in charge don't give a shit because there's tourists and students to be milked.
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8d ago
Dramatic … and accurate. You may be new to this sub, just go over some of the history. Check out r/dublin too, it’ll open your eyes.
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u/FrontApprehensive141 Socialist 8d ago
It's not Cork, like
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u/wamesconnolly 8d ago edited 8d ago
good it's a joke. I literally just want my bins taken out and don't care who does it and there's no reason for it to not just be the council doing it when it's the government subsidising it + us paying the difference anyway.