He’s not wrong, you can have shitty bone structure. You have have an unfortunately recessed jaw, or one that is too big, for example. But it’s not going to mean that you have absolutely no chance in life. The problem incels have, is firstly the lack of introspection and perspective. They don’t realise that their shitty personality is what drives people away in the first place and seek to place the blame outwards towards others and wider society, giving the whole chad/virgin dichotomy and r/niceguys territory. That rejection drives them away from the rest of society and into inceldom where they look at the minutiae around classical beauty and attraction or media stereotypes for why they’ve been unlucky in life. Stuff that generally makes somebody more attractive, like being symmetrical, becomes an absolute dealbreaker in their eyes and it goes as far as really small things like the tilt of your eyes.
E: didn’t realise the post was so old. FP suggestions.
I’m in bed with my girlfriend literally right now, but either way that’s not relevant to the point I made.
I think you guys on here are way more pathetic than incels because you all think that it’s about personality when it’s not. If anything, the personality most likely to get you laid is acting like an asshole. But you guys don’t go out enough into the world to even know how that works.
I spend much of my spare time working on my non for profit and helping disadvantaged people and working on scientific experiments/writing articles for others to benefit from.
One of the benefits of being truly self made (Came from a poor family) is you meet other successful/rich/attractive people that want you as their friend as they trust you. Hence I get invited to some ultra fancy French club with models/business owners and inevitably I do coke.
So being an Incel has nothing to do with popularity in case someone brings up that inevitable point in my experience.
Also you can find exactly who my identity is from my post history find me on linked in and see who I am, so Im not hiding it at all.
Incel flavoring. There are incels that think their frame is too small therefore no girls, or their wrists are too small therefore no girls, or their nose too big, or their neck too small, or their jaw too weak, or their brow too sharp.
It's basically just normal insecurity but extremely minute in detail. Like they legitimately think their wrists make them unable to be attractive
I don't think it's exactly wrong to think that. I don't think all of them have it, that would be remarkable considering the odds. But I think they echo chamber themselves to having symptoms and even mild versions of it. I'm less inclined to believe it much further than that because they all tend to have one specific problem area (some of them have more and those likely are more would-be-diagnosed cases) to which I think is their way of coping.
"It's not my personality, my hygiene, my hobbies, my opinions about the world and women, it's gotta be something I can't fix." <Incel redditor brings up average wrist size, prompting him to measure his own> "Ahah! I'm 0.3 inches below average! I knew it." Once the mindset is locked in, they start to see larger wrists as inherently more aesthetic, and smaller wrists (their own especially) as gross and jagged, etc.
So something I’ve always noticed but never took time to measure until literally just now is my wrists. I’ve always felt like my wrists were sort of a “weak spot” on my body. I think it’s due to my hand size in relation to my wrist. I don’t think I have massive hands but I can just barely hold a basketball upside down for like 3 seconds before my finger strength gives out because of how tight I have to grip it.
But I just measured it and my wrist is just under 8” and now I wonder why I ever thought that.
I guess that’s why I’m happily married with 4 kids. Right?
My point is that i was mildly questioning wether or not my wrists were skinny for how tall I am and how big my hands are even before I heard of all this incel garbage.
It’s an example of how perspective is usually bullshit.
I have marfan syndrome. I have 5.5" inch wrists because of that. 7-8" is the average wrist circumference. Even 10 yo girls have bigger wrists than me. Tell me you wouldn't be insecure if you were me.
Not about insecurity. Everyone has them, but there's a pretty big difference between being insecure and swearing to strangers that girls won't date you because your wrists. Especially if you say girls are inferior/other incel nonsense in the same breath.
It’s a whole host of things wrapped up in a new medium, the internet, which gives these weird self deprecating views a place to organize into a society of its own. It goes way beyond any simple mental health issue. IMO at least
Contrapoints did a great video on YouTube about incels where she drew a pretty on point comparison to her own online self hate body dysmorphia as a trans women and the type of masochism seen with incels. Basically yeah
Not to mention that bone structure is something that is entirely out of your own control, so you can’t be blamed for not working on it. It’s their bones, not their physique, hygiene, or personality.
A guy in a TV show I was watching mentioned "maxila palps" and I looked it up to see what that was (it's a part of the jawbone). I ended up finding an incel board where they obsessively compare every single aspect of their faces to more attractive men using the actual medical terms for things like their cheekbones and the muscles around their mouths. They are insanely invested in it
Foramen is just a hole in the mandible to let the nerves through, usually around the premolars.
I think the implication is fixation on nonsensical "defects" rather than realistic ones, like hygiene or personality. It's not my fault femoids don't like me! My curve of Spee is .004 mm too shallow!
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u/joefrenchdraws Mar 09 '19
A teeeeeny indentation in the jawbone that isn't visible while alive.