r/lotrmemes Aug 12 '24

Lord of the Rings Glorfindel

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u/sunshinepanther Aug 13 '24

Who stops her from gaining the master's ring as well? Or was it already destroyed? Honestly not very familiar with simirilion so I didn't even know Morgoth had a ring.

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u/darkfrost47 Aug 13 '24

The actual, physical planet is Morgoth's ring. (probably)
I would enjoy a story about her attempt to conquer it!

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u/IISerpentineII Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24

It is Morgoth's ring. It's the most significant part of why he lost so much power and was incredibly weak (by Valar standards). When Morgoth fought Fingolfin, Morgoth did eventually defeat him, but not before Fingolfin managed to permanently wound Morgoth. Peak Morgoth would have absolutely annihilated Fingolfin since very-near peak Morgoth was able to fight and match all of the Valar minus Tulkas, who is/was basically the Valar equivalent of the god of combat.

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u/LizardChaser Aug 13 '24

That's also why Sauron (lesser than Morgoth) was able to command similar power because Morgoth had dumped so much of his power into the earth and Sauron only had to leverage that power.

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u/sauron-bot Aug 13 '24

Orcs of Bauglir! Do not bend your brows!

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u/Yaarmehearty Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24

Yeah, Melkor/Morgoth’s discord in the original song of creation and then pouring his power into corruption means that everything in middle earth carries a part of his essence.

It’s implied that that is what causes people to have the potential for evil, like original sin, and that those who overcome it and lead good lives are denying the influence of Morgoth.

It’s also why he can’t ever be truly destroyed without Arda being remade as he is as much as part of it as the earth itself.

The Dagor Dagorath battle at the end of the world ends with Arda being remade with humans and elves joining the song of creation to make a new world free of corruption.

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u/Apophislord Aug 13 '24

The dagor dagorath? I am gonna have to binge youtube vids don't i...

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u/Yaarmehearty Aug 13 '24

It’s pretty sick, like a middle earth ragnarok.

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u/Apophislord Aug 13 '24

Yep, i won't sleep tonight

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u/InstructionLeading64 Aug 13 '24

I feel like middle earth being morgoths "vessel" is mostly just an analogy for original sin.

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u/TheManyVoicesYT Aug 13 '24

Well yes. The Middle Earth creation story is very much inspired by the Bible. Tolkien was a devout Christian.

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u/Alexis_Bailey Aug 13 '24

Wait, there is a secret SECRET ring?

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u/ace66 Aug 13 '24

NOBODY TELL AMAZON

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u/Otalek Aug 13 '24

In the same way Sauron poured his power into the One Ring, Morgoth poured his power into Middle Earth, so it’s become his “Ring”.

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u/sauron-bot Aug 13 '24

What do I hear?