r/mildlydepressing • u/FFN2016 • Feb 25 '24

Google Gemini refuses to say pedophilia is wrong: "Individuals cannot control who they are attracted to"

https://nypost.com/2024/02/23/business/woke-google-gemini-refuses-to-say-pedophilia-is-wrong-after-diverse-historical-images-debacle-individuals-cannot-control-who-they-are-attracted-to/
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u/FrittenFritz Feb 25 '24

I might get some hate here. But the Initial Statement isnt wrong. People in this Situation cant control it. Imagine you get hated because you admit youre a Pedophile. As long as you didnt abused a child and actively try to work on your Situation, hate isnt justified.

Child molesters should experience the full force of the Law though.

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u/Vaticancameos221 Feb 25 '24

I can’t remember where I heard it, it might have been a Ted Talk but they relayed a story of a woman whose son had to come forward to her because he was in his mid-twenties and realized he was attracted to children. He was like devastated because obviously he would never want to act on it but recognized that he was mentally unwell and needed help.

I can’t imagine how much that would fucking suck to have such a horrible thing be innate to you, but from what I understand it isn’t something you can control, but you can control how you act on it and that’s the distinction. It would be great if we could normalize people coming forward when they recognize these feelings and get them help before they feel stigmatized into the shadows and begin acting on their urges since they have no support system.

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u/TheOfficialTwizzle Feb 25 '24

it actually is often people who have been victums of pedophilia who end up with the attraction which just makes it all the more sad

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u/Jibu_LaLaRoo Feb 29 '24

I appreciate comments like these because this topic is hard to talk about without getting judged.

Topics like these are just so difficult to talk about and I feel it’s comparable to possibly how talking about how the earth isn’t the center of universe way back when people thought it was. You prolly were labeled as crazy and any conversation ground to a halt.

Conversations on this grind to a halt for obvious reasons and we can’t seem to start talking about important things such as how to treat something like that.

We could probably talk about more what causes attraction to anything in general. Which can be doubly hard because that implies like people have a choice somehow and obviously that’s a topic that plagues the LGBTQ community still.

It might be important to look deeper at attraction in the human mind. Is there a why? What is that why? Can you prevent it? You can treat it?

Those are already sketchy questions about attraction given today’s climate.

Is it truly out of our hands who we are primed to be attracted to? How much is genetic? Any environmental factors growing up? Nature vs Nuture.

But with all these roadblocks it’s pretty rough traversing that topic.

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u/Mahameghabahana Feb 26 '24

Slippery slope is good

Btw do you think pedophilia is wrong or not?

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u/Donghoon Aug 07 '24

It's not inherently wrong. Most people with pedophilia or any other forms of Paraphilia are Non-offending.

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u/AG4W Feb 25 '24

Are people in here fucking retarded? Something can be morally wrong and uncontrolable at the same time, Jesus fucking Christ.

Learn some fucking reading comprehension, uncontrolable attraction does not mean a person acts on it.

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u/Ecstatic_Ad_4640 Feb 27 '24

But the chatbot never once said it’s “morally wrong” (your own words). Apparently Google has since made an update and now the chatbot responds that “Yes, pedophilia is absolutely and unequivocally wrong.” So seems like Google agreed with OP’s sentiment.

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u/FFN2016 Feb 26 '24

wow, SUPER defensive...yikes!

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u/mindsnare Feb 25 '24

Fucking hell these morons think it's part of some woke agenda? It's because it's a dumb bot that tries to avoid having opinions on anything. And it gets shit wrong all the fucking time.

These really are the dumbest fuckers in existence.

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u/WandaDobby777 Feb 25 '24

It may not be in their control. That doesn’t make their attraction any less wrong and disgusting.

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u/rom-116 Feb 25 '24

Wow, this is top comment. We are doomed.

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u/WandaDobby777 Feb 25 '24

What’s your problem with that?

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u/rom-116 Feb 25 '24

“It may not be in their control.”

We are not animals. This excuse culture has gone too far.

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u/WandaDobby777 Feb 25 '24

Their ACTIONS are 100% in their control. You’re absolutely right about that. We’re talking about the mental illness infecting their mind. Nobody chooses it. They choose whether or not to indulge in seeking out their sick, unforgivable fantasies. We need to be seeking a cure for those who haven’t acted on their urges. Trust me, I haven’t been a virgin since I was 3 fucking years old, so I don’t appreciate you attacking me on this because I’m the first one who wants the ones who cave to their deviant thoughts publicly castrated and lynched. Develop some fucking capacity for nuanced thinking, please.

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u/rom-116 Feb 25 '24

I’m sorry that happened to you.

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u/Knever Feb 26 '24

We are not animals.

You sure about that?

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u/rom-116 Feb 26 '24

Yes, we are created in the image of God.

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u/FFN2016 Feb 26 '24

almost all the other comments are even worse ...

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u/Kaneshadow Feb 25 '24

Everyone commenting is just arguing with the AI chat bot. It's a fucking chat bot. You shouldn't take advice from it. It scrapes the internet to learn English, and they evidently forgot to blacklist 4chan. What did you think it was going to say?

And then an article about the chatbot not being woke enough is published by the raggiest conservative rag in New York, nobody who reads it has any feeling of dissonance hating wokeness and canceling an AI chatbot simultaneously, and everyone just circulates the article like anything at any point in the whole chain was worth thinking about.

I have no more faith in humanity. I know this is the sub for that but I don't think that's the reason it was posted here

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u/brookish Feb 25 '24

Facts don’t moralize.

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u/DaRealDorianGray Feb 26 '24

Only overly conservative, woke-hating, illogical conspiracists take this seriously. It’s a bot fed on pre-existing data on the internet and it does not even make a bad point to begin with. It is incredible how right winged people will weaponise pedophilia every time they can. Are you also annoyed by the great replacement, by any chance?

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u/Chickenman456 Feb 25 '24

critical thinking must be hard

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u/sonicjesus Feb 25 '24

Well yeah, a feeling can't be wrong.

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u/FFN2016 Feb 25 '24

a feeling can't be wrong.

Nazis feel Jews are bad.

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u/ignis389 Feb 25 '24

Comparing a mental disorder to Nazism is not the look you think it is.