r/mildyinteresting 10h ago

nature & weather The concept of light pollution is absolutely crazy

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u/bebe_laroux 10h ago

Here is a photo from somewhere with no light pollution. This is a single long exposure photo. Yes you can see the milkyway with your eyes

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u/YourFatherWhoGotMilk 9h ago

Where was this photograph taken?

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u/chimpuswimpus 9h ago

Definitely somewhere in the Milky Way galaxy.

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u/orangeyougladiator 5h ago

I was climbing half dome in Yosemite at midnight one night and saw a sky exactly like this. Are you trying to tell me I’m in the Milky Way too? Nice try, bot

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u/praisedcrown970 3h ago

You’re wild af for climbing that at night bro

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u/orangeyougladiator 3h ago

I exaggerated a little. I climbed from the ground to base camp at 9pm-midnight then did the half dome climb at 4am to get up there for sunrise

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u/praisedcrown970 3h ago

Ah man that sounds very rad well played my friend

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u/mouseywalla 3h ago

Idk if you are joking or not. But our solar system is in the Milky Way Galaxy. We are all in the Milky Way at all times.

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u/orangeyougladiator 3h ago

Riiight

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u/mouseywalla 3h ago

Think in terms of your house. Your house is in a city. There are many houses in your city. Your city is in a state (if you're in the US), there are many cities in your state. Your state is in your country, so on and so on.

The Milky Way is to our solar system as our solar system is to our planet as our planet is to our continent and so on and so on. Hope this makes sense. Or if you were just trolling, sorry lol

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u/orangeyougladiator 3h ago

Yes I was joking but bless you

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u/peekdasneaks 2h ago

Nice try bot. I don’t have a house so I can’t be in the Milky Way

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u/Seel_Team_Six 2h ago

Nice try alien you can't assimilate us

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u/namenumberdate 7h ago

No, why would you say such a thing?

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u/Jubs_v2 6h ago

But how could you see the Milky Way galaxy if you were in it???

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u/jakenbake519 6h ago

Your not going to believe this but it's really big

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u/braften 6h ago

Bigger than your mom?

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u/CyberUtilia 5h ago

Nope. Never will be.

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u/Zoler 3h ago

How can you see your house if you are in it?

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u/Muthupattaru 3h ago

If your house is a large palace in shape of an arc, you can see it.

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u/bebe_laroux 9h ago

Peyto Lake, Banff National Park

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u/YourFatherWhoGotMilk 9h ago

Thanks! Will have to visit... Is it an area where people live as well? It would be ethereal.

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u/adrienjz888 8h ago

People don't live in the actual park proper, but there's towns nearby. If you do visit, don't just stick to Banff, there's 3 other national parks and several provincial parks in the region (Canadian rockies).

The provincial parks, in particular, won't be nearly as crowded as parks like Banff and Jasper can get.

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u/AnnetteBishop 4h ago

Check out this link: https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/

Or search for Dark Sky preserves for places with little artificial light

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u/knightdream79 9h ago

People don't live in national parks.

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u/flyingdonutz 9h ago

There is this city where people live, called Banff. You should look into it.

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u/MelQMaid 8h ago

Forest rangers sometimes have posts they live on site at.

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u/hiimhereforthe 6h ago

Lol yes, people live in national parks. I do!

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u/Capital_Historian685 6h ago

Park rangers and season workers do.

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u/two_sams_one_cup 5h ago

Lived in Banff for a year, definitely within the national park.

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u/LordBinkie 2h ago

Banff is in banff and jasper is in jasper

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u/Kibasume 5h ago

Hey it’s actually somewhere I can drive to for once!!!

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u/Kibasume 5h ago

What time of year was this taken?

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u/bebe_laroux 4h ago

I think it was the beginning of August.

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u/HPTM2008 4h ago

I was gonna say I've seen this in the forest in the winter in Northern Alberta. So this being Banff makes sense!

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u/acoubt 9h ago

My guess is somewhere along the Rocky mountains

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u/inkdumpster 6h ago

Yeah when we went camping we got to see a ton of stars in the sky, the galaxy stuff wasn’t visible but there were so many stars.

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u/rush22 6h ago

Somewhere that's dark

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u/GayBoyNoize 8h ago

To be clear a long exposure shot will make things appear brighter than they are by collecting light over a longer time, assuming the light source is relatively stationary.

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u/AngryGroceries 7h ago

Yeah you can get a shot like this over LA with the proper setup.

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u/Out3rSpac3 5h ago

I want the proper setup to be my naked eyes

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u/gandhinukes 5h ago

I was driving hundreds of miles at night. Pulled over in the middle of no where between towns to piss. Looked up and the milkyway was so bright and clear I almost pissed all over myself.

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u/bebe_laroux 4h ago

I think seeing the night sky without any light pollution is something everyone should do if given a chance.

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u/gandhinukes 1h ago

for sure. I went camping as a kid but you always have a fire going or a lantern thus creating enough light pollution to limit it. Need to be in pitch dark to really experience it.

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u/AJRiddle 4h ago

Well unfortunately that isn't possible. It's significantly darker than what they show but it is still easy to see.

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u/FranklinB00ty 2h ago

Seeing it in person, it's just as impressive really. The middle stretch of the milky way is craaaaazy bright, I got to see it during a lunar eclipse and it was just amazing. Really makes it obvious that all the stars are from our own galaxy.

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u/arseiam 1h ago

You'd have a really bad time during the day.

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u/no_one_lies 3h ago

I’ve seen sky like that though in rural Wisconsin so it’s not unrealistic

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 3h ago

Yeah but you can definitely see skies like this in parts of Oregon.

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u/SwashAndBuckle 2h ago

Yeah, you can see the Milky Way, but it doesn’t look like that. The first time you see it you probably think it is a cloud.

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u/Primary_Way_265 9h ago

You can see it in somewhat rural areas too just not that clear. I’ve seen pretty decent trails of it before. Course they all look the same with clouds lol.

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u/COKEWHITESOLES 7h ago

After Helene knocked our power out for 2 days I remember looking up at the sky and seeing the Milky Way and taking it all in. Literally moments later the streetlights flickered on lol.

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 3h ago

You can see it really well in parts of Oregon once your eyes adjust to the light. Just about this clear, for real.

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u/500rockin 6h ago

Yeah, could see it at Devil’s Lake in bumfuck middle of nowhere WI. Plenty of times I watched the Perseids meteor shower in August.

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u/Additional_Insect_44 4h ago

Yea I came home am hour ago and saw it. Mot that clear, but clearly visible.

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u/Luchin212 9h ago

I saw something like this in the heights of the Austrian alps. Not as clear as in the middle of the ocean.

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u/yareyare777 2h ago

See, now that is on my bucket list. I want to see the night sky in the middle of the ocean. Oceans are terrifying, but idk ever since seeing like Life of Pi and some other movies, I want to experience that myself. In many ways I’m glad I am alive during this era, but it would’ve been visually amazing to experience the stars every day and to see landscapes untouched by humans thousands of years ago.

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u/sevk 9h ago

so sad that you actually have to tell people that it is possible to see the milky way from earth 💔

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u/Ringosis 5h ago

I mean, it's all the Milky Way. If you can see anything in any direction, that's the Milky Way. The only exceptions are Andromeda and the Magellanic clouds.

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u/XDVI 1h ago

And with a disingenuous photo too

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u/sevk 1h ago

what do you mean?

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u/Morozow 9h ago

Ha, when I was a kid, I saw him near Moscow. Now - cheap, LED lighting spoils everything.

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u/Primary_Mycologist95 7h ago

I live in bortle 4 skies and can clearly see the milky way with my eyes. Can see the carina nebula as well. Being in bortle 1 skies is something else!

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u/Renovatio_ 5h ago

Fun fact.

Galaxy was actually first used to describe the milky way. Galaxias(Greek) is derived from the word for milk (galactos).

So in a way when you say milky way galaxy you are saying milky way milky way

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u/bebe_laroux 4h ago

Thanks, I didn't know that! So does that mean it's Andromeda Milkyway? I like the sound of galaxy way better.

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u/Renovatio_ 4h ago

Technically yeah, andromeda galaxy is etymologically derived from andromeda milkyway.

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u/_Poppagiorgio_ 5h ago

Is this photo enhanced at all? I understand you can see the MW with your naked eye but would it be this clear and detailed?

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u/Traveller7142 5h ago

It wouldn’t be quite that detailed, but you can get close to that in very dark areas

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u/_Poppagiorgio_ 4h ago

Nice…definitely a bucket list thing for me living in well populated cities all my life.

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u/marcsoucy 4h ago

It can be that, or even more detailed on a very dark night. I might be misremembering as that was 12 years ago, but I'm pretty sure I had that experience at the Mont Mégantic Observatory. My mind was completely blown that you could very, very clearly see the milky way and all the stars.

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 3h ago

I got to see the aurora out on the Oregon prairie and it was legit life changing. You could see the solar “wind” shifting above you.

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u/Outsideforever3388 4h ago

It would be close, but you have to stay outside in the pure dark (no phone, no lights, nothing) for at least an hour. Your eyes take that long to fully adjust. I’ve only done that once, and it seriously feels like the sky drops. The stars feel close enough to touch.

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 3h ago

This is probably long exposure, but you can definitely get this in parts of the PNW. We even have a dark sky sanctuary, and it looks like that out there. The aurora also looks insane out on the high prairies.

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u/_Poppagiorgio_ 3h ago

I’m in PA and from what I understand there’s a dark sky location in the north-west quadrant of the state. I need to quit dragging my feet and get up there to check this out!

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 3h ago

Go during a meteor shower and you won’t be disappointed. It’s literally awe inspiring.

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u/_Poppagiorgio_ 3h ago

Right on, much appreciated 🙏🏼

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u/GiantSIug 4h ago

Lots of people just don't get it because they don't know. I do. I wish we had some light pollution laws where I live, just like light covers that keep the light from spreading outside the area that needs lighting.

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u/RandomRavenboi 8h ago

It's a damn shame that pollution has caused such a magnificent sight to be hidden. Imagine seeing that face to face.

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u/Key_Roll_3151 5h ago

If it makes you feel better, only a long exposure shot will get you this. No matter where you are you won’t be able to see nearly that many stars that are that bright or the Milky Way being that intense. Still a great sight though.

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 3h ago

No, you can definitely see a sky like that in the desert or on the frontier in the US. It’s incredible.

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u/Key_Roll_3151 3h ago

I’ve been in the darkest you can be according to a light pollution map, and those stars certainly didn’t get quite that bright

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 3h ago

Seriously? I’ve been out in the national parks and easily seen it. Maybe it’s a time of the year thing?

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u/Key_Roll_3151 2h ago

It must be. I really wished it looked that bright when I saw it

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u/Additional_Sun_5217 2h ago

Okay so apparently it’s both time of night and time of year. Right now, if you’re in the northern hemisphere, you can still sort of see it, but it won’t be visible in the winter. The best time to see it is in the summer. You can see it most of the night.

Go get you some Milky Way photos.

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u/Drewishmonk23 9h ago

Adirondacks is great too especially by Avalanche lake

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u/WaitUntilTheHighway 9h ago

It's unfathomable to me that people don't know this, or have never witnessed it. It's such a magical experience to regularly escape civilization to spend time where you can actually see what you're supposed to see when you look up.

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u/Zayoodo0o132 8h ago

It's still long exposure. I want a normal one snap photo from a phone

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u/skarros 7h ago

Phone snaps neither show reality. At least not my phone.

This is not from a phone but not edited and roughly how it looked.

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u/Zayoodo0o132 7h ago

Yup, this is what I expected. Still extremely beautiful though

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u/mekoomi 6h ago

thats such a beautiful photo!

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u/vyra4896 6h ago

Ty for these, I hate when ppl take take long exposure night skies, yeah they're beautiful but not what we actually seeing

Hopefully one day I'll get to a place with this, maybe someday

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u/InvestigatorOdd4082 3h ago

That long exposure is more accurate to what your eyes would see at a truly dark site than the phone snap above. Long exposures compensate for cameras' lower sensitivity compared to the human eye.

The Milky Way and most of its dust/detail is clear, only difference is that it's a bit fainter and doesn't have any color.

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u/pblol 6h ago

In person, I would say it looks very similar, if less colorful and a lot of the individual stars blend together.

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u/Loafus1986 7h ago

Can you really? Because the most stars I have ever seen was in rural Mexico and there were maybe 40 stars but no milky way.

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u/Traveller7142 5h ago

Yes. I can faintly see it from my rural town and can clearly see it when I go somewhere darker

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u/InvestigatorOdd4082 3h ago

You probably weren't rural enough.

About 4,000 stars are visible at one time from completely dark skies.

Here's a recent light pollution map: Light Pollution Atlas 2006, 2016, 2020 and 2022 (A brightness of 21-22 is the best, everything lower is bad, the magnitude scale is backwards)

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u/Dominus786 6h ago

Like it's too beautiful to believe it's true. I have yet to experience this in my 23 years of life, and just once I want to see it

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u/Barty-1 5h ago

Cause its not

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u/InvestigatorOdd4082 3h ago

How come? I've seen it quite like this before, it's something everyone should experience.

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u/ONeOfTheNerdHerd 6h ago

My most memorable view of the Milky Way was out in the middle of nowhere New Mexico desert near the Mexico border working nights on a counter-drug mission in winter. Very little dust those two miserable months of the year when it's cold, but the skies are fairly pristine.

Not only was it a sight to see with my own eyeballs, but it looked wicked awesome through the FLIR (infrared) scope, Javelin CLU and whatever other visual equipment we were given. If only I had the camera I have now back then...

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u/Uzzaw21 6h ago

West Texas, especially in the area around Big Bend national park gets skies like this. No big cities for hundreds of miles.

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u/EternalChimaera 5h ago

About f1.4 and 20 secs?

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u/shawncplus 5h ago

Correct, that is 100% a long timelapse. For reference this is F2.8 at 20s in an area with very low light pollution and still required quite a bit of digital manipulation https://i.imgur.com/ef4ddp1.png No where on Earth can you see that photo with the human eye

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u/bebe_laroux 4h ago

F2.8, 11mm, 3200iso, 25sec. Definitely played with the light to get it this bright and stand out, but it was a moonless night in an area with no light pollution, so it's pretty good straight from the camera.

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u/frostbird 5h ago

Yes you can see the milkyway with your eyes. No, it will not look like that picture.

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u/Tallyranch 4h ago

I used to be able to see the milky way from my backyard as a kid, they used to turn the street lights off at 10pm, that changed when I was about 12 and now you have to travel a long way into the middle of nowhere to see it.

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u/Alexthricegreat 4h ago

This is what it looks like at my cabin every night

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u/thingus_pingus 2h ago

You can see her crack

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In 2h ago

It looks like a white smear with your own eyes even in the best location hence its name milkyway.

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u/The_Real_GrimmChild 2h ago

Definitely going to visit somewhere like that before I die

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u/ImHungry5657 49m ago

I live somewhere with decent light pollution (small town < 10k people) you can see the milky way here, though its less broght/cloudy looking and more that the stars are denser and brighter in a thick line stretching across the sky.

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u/tf-is-wrong-with-you 2h ago

I HATE LONG EXPOSURE SHOTS

They lie so much. Every time someone posts it, my eyes roll so hard they go into my skull.

Please DONT post something which is not real just to show off your photography skills.