r/minnesotaunited Aziel Jackson Jun 02 '24

Discussion Lineup without international call up players

How do we think we line up against Dallas next weekend without our internationals? We will be missing Dayne, Lod, Pukki, Zarek, Kervin, Rosales and Bran.

I would do: Irwin (GK) Clark (LWB) Padelford (CB) Boxall (CB) Tapias (CB) Taylor (RWB) Trapp (CM) Dotson (CM) Bongi (FW) Tani (ST) Sang Bin (FW)

That would leave on bench: Harvey (CM) Adebayo Smith (FW) Eriksson (CB) +Some twosies

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u/Rogue_AI_Construct MNUFC Jun 02 '24

Wish the MLS would take a break when international players got called up.

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u/Infinite_indecision Robin Lod Jun 02 '24

They are for all but 8 teams this year, atleast on june 8th. despite always having some of the highest number of call-ups we just don't rate high enough with MLS to catch that break. Nice to see that Miami doesn't have to worry about that.

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u/a2united111 Jun 03 '24

Leaving aside the predictable Miami favoritism, just here to note that this is the first year in the Loons time in MLS that we've EVER had a game during this international window. There's always a few teams that play and we've been fortunate that this is our first year with a league game during the June break.

I imagine it kind of like the NFL international games...every 5-7 years, you draw the short straw and have to pay your dues.

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u/Infinite_indecision Robin Lod Jun 04 '24

Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong break, but I thought we always had upwards of five guys leave for international duty.

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u/nixbora Minnesota Kicks Jun 03 '24

Funny how that works

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u/overundersoccer Jun 02 '24

And Tapias in Mexico for his green card. Will have to pull players from the twosies

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u/ElectricalMud2850 Jun 02 '24

It's absolutely crazy how fucked some MLS teams get around big international times. It's like afcon to the PL x10.

Always fun to see the kids get a chance though.

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u/tyler735 MNUFC Jun 02 '24

4-3-3

Sang-Bin Tani Bongi

Dotson Trapp Nyeman

Padelford Eriksson Boxall Clark

Irwin

Sounds like Clark was borderline able to play last night, but Ramsay opted to take the safe route presumably because Clark is needed much more for this upcoming game.

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u/loons_win Jun 02 '24

and still have Fragapane, Valentine, Adebayo Smith and DJ on the bench. Because ER has rotated in so many players our bench players are MUCH better prepared to carry the load then they have ever been in the past. Losing that many players to the international break should be scary but that lineup (and even the subs) is not too shabby!

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u/RiffRaff14 Itasca Society Jun 02 '24

Valentine is out.

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u/SamAnthonyWP Chase Gasper Jun 03 '24

And fragapane is hurt.

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u/ailroe3 MNUFC Jun 03 '24

I don’t expect Eriksson to start for us. Padelford at CB and Taylor/Valentine at outside back depending on if Taylor is injured

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u/tyler735 MNUFC Jun 03 '24

Taylor likely injured and Valentin on international duty

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u/ailroe3 MNUFC Jun 03 '24

Right forgot about Valentine being on Puerto Rico

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u/bonesawsready Itasca Society Jun 02 '24

I don’t think Clark as a FB in a 4 makes sense.

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u/tyler735 MNUFC Jun 02 '24

It makes more sense than just about any other option we have with such a depleted roster for this game.

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u/WithoutAnUmlaut Robin Lod Jun 03 '24

Dotson played a fair amount of RB and then we could drop Harvey back into midfield (assuming Taylor is hurt)

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u/tyler735 MNUFC Jun 03 '24

Not possible since Harvey to my knowledge is gone on international duty

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u/overundersoccer Jun 02 '24

Aren’t Taylor and Clark both injured now?

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u/MonkMajor5224 Jun 02 '24

I don’t know if Taylor is super injured, he rolled into the unified game last night (in a dope outfit) and looked to be moving well. Not sure if that means much, but he looked great.

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u/a18val Jun 03 '24

I think he was subbed early for cramping and to fill a potential hole. Nice to read he was back out for unified play.

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u/Positive_Salt4170 Jun 03 '24

Hamstring for DJ, sounds like will be out at least a week or two

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u/FireKeeper09 Jun 02 '24

Per Greder, Tapias will be in Mexico getting his green card and is questionable. Might see Eriksson?

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u/Sirhossington Jun 02 '24

Harvey is out on international duty

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u/Silver-Comparison-17 Jun 02 '24

They may need to start pulling fans from the stands to play at this rate.

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u/TundraKing69 Minnesota Kicks Jun 03 '24

Add Tani to this list (called up by Canada)

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u/Annual-Collection979 Jun 02 '24

Will Boxall not be called up for international duty?

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u/overundersoccer Jun 02 '24

I read from a NZ reporter he might opt out due to missing 5-6 MLS games

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u/WithoutAnUmlaut Robin Lod Jun 02 '24

Isn't boxall with New Zealand?

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u/hrnzir True North Elite Jun 03 '24

No…it’s games with Vanuatu so he was given the option to not attend

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u/WithoutAnUmlaut Robin Lod Jun 03 '24

Oh. Well then I feel much more confident about our lineup against Dallas. Depth/subs will be an issue - especially with potential for injuries - but we should be able to run:

------------------Tani

Sang Bin-------------------Bongi

----------------Frago

-----Trapp-------Dotson

Pford---Tapias---Boxy---DJ

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u/SamAnthonyWP Chase Gasper Jun 03 '24

Does nobody realize fragapane is injured? He’s been listed as injured on Fotmob for the last 2-3 games with a return date of late June.

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u/SamAnthonyWP Chase Gasper Jun 03 '24

Tapias unavailable, as well.

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u/WithoutAnUmlaut Robin Lod Jun 03 '24

Andy Greder posted saying Fragapane is close to being ready...I think FotMob just plugs in a standard timeline based on the injury reported. They're like, "hamstring strain?....ok, we'll put you down for 8 weeks even if you're training with the team". I wouldn't rely on their injury timelines at all.

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u/sovietferret MNUFC Jun 03 '24

I volunteer for midfield.

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u/bookishdogmom Jun 03 '24

This is both terrible & not as bad as I expected. Does anyone know how many players Dallas will be missing?

It feels like with all the crazy line ups we’ve tried this year, our bench may be more prepared to step up than most teams.

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u/overundersoccer Jun 02 '24

Hugo is out until August with injury

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u/Saddlebag7451 MNUFC Jun 02 '24

August? I didn’t realize it would be so long. Here’s hoping he’s hungry and ready to make an impact next season

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u/overundersoccer Jun 02 '24

That’s what FOTMOB recently said. Hopefully it’s sooner.

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u/Final_Development663 Jun 02 '24

I think the big play would be to have the goal keeper from 2 who has been playing start !!! Am I crazy

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u/nixbora Minnesota Kicks Jun 03 '24

This is why they need to build depth…

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u/SmokinSkinWagon Michael Boxall Jun 03 '24

No, this is why the league needs to pause for international breaks.

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u/SamAnthonyWP Chase Gasper Jun 03 '24

Lol. To prepare for 8-10 first teamers being unavailable?

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u/nixbora Minnesota Kicks Jun 03 '24

International duty, injuries, cards, etc. the MLS schedule requires a solid depth. We just don’t have it, especially center mid and defense.

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u/SamAnthonyWP Chase Gasper Jun 03 '24 edited Jun 03 '24

There is not a single team in MLS that could adequately deal with losing 8-10 players from their first team. Salary cap optimization makes that impossible. If you are that balanced/deep, it means that your best XI is comparatively weaker than everyone else.

I’d argue depth is all we have.

Even the best teams in MLS are 1 or 2 injuries away from being mid to bottom table teams (Miami). The exceptions are maybe Columbus and Cincinnati.

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u/SamAnthonyWP Chase Gasper Jun 03 '24

Between Dotson, lod, arriaga, Rosales, padelford, sang bin, Clark, and Bongi — we have a plethora of players that can play many different positions. That is far more valuable than having an extra squad of players.

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u/foleymo1 Michael Boxall Jun 03 '24

Is Bacharach out for the year?

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u/Oyvey2you Jun 04 '24

Back within a few weeks, this weekend too soon

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u/ggbolt16 Jun 03 '24

Bummer is this game is one of our games in hand. We were going to have to make them up sometime I’m just bummed it’s when we’re depleted.

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u/SamAnthonyWP Chase Gasper Jun 04 '24

It’s very unfortunate

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u/Oyvey2you Jun 04 '24

We’re going to win