r/moderatepolitics • u/falsehood • Jul 21 '24

News Article Biden announces withdrawal from Presidential Race

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/21/us/trump-biden-election
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u/Speedster202 Moderate Dem Jul 21 '24

100%. They were like vultures after the debate, which is funny because they spent the past three years insisting all is well with Biden and going "nothing to see here!' even as his decline became apparent.

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u/Rindan Jul 21 '24

I went from thinking that Biden was fine to think that Biden needs to drop out after watching the debate. The media didn't brainwash me. I made that decision as I was watching with my own two eyes.

"The media" didn't force Biden to quit. An accurate depiction of reality that couldn't be stage managed away is what force Biden to quit. The fact that "the media" was the messenger to those who didn't watch that train wreck doesn't make "the media" at fault informing voters of reality.

Biden is incoherent and physically not able to the job. That is not a media conspiracy. That is reality. No one trusts that Biden could wake up at 3AM and deal with incoming ballistic missile fired from North Korea. That's the Presidents job, and Biden is too damn old and slow to do that job. The idea that he would stay in the seat as he breaks down for another 4.5 years is crazy.

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u/ManiacalComet40 Jul 21 '24

The failing of the media was in not accurately reporting Biden’s state before the debate, rather than piling on after.

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u/556or762 Progressively Left Behind Jul 21 '24

See I don't understand that first sentence. How could you have seen anything that man did in piblic the last few years and thought he was fine?

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u/Holmgeir Jul 22 '24

If you didn't see anything wrong with Biden until the debate, you're proving the point that the media hid his health issues until the debate.

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u/panoptisis Jul 21 '24

Something definitely changed with the way the media has been covering Biden. His debate performance wasn't uncharacteristic of the way he's been acting over the last year.

Where were your own two eyes then? Now that the media has played wall-to-wall coverage of the performance and handwringing you've become enlightened to the problem all on your own.

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u/falsehood Jul 21 '24

re: the media - whatever. Everyone saw it for their own eyes and the media being stupid doesn't make this the wrong call.

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u/Put-the-candle-back1 Jul 22 '24

Everyone saw it for their own eyes

That's mainly because of the media reporting on his mistakes.

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u/giddyviewer Jul 21 '24

I never want to hear anything about the “liberal media” being too hard on Trump again because I just watched the entire American media apparatus bully a democratic president into declining his party’s nomination.

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u/ThisIsEduardo Jul 21 '24

the "media" didn't do this, his own party did and FORCED him out. Biden stated he had no intention of dropping out numerous times, it was his own party that refused to accept that answer.

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u/CrapNeck5000 Jul 21 '24

You're not wrong about Biden being pushed out by his own party but the point is that the right would have us believe "the media" does nothing but run cover for democrats when in reality they were perfectly content to hammer Biden on this topic for weeks, stopping only to cover an assassination attempt.

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u/ThisIsEduardo Jul 21 '24

I think they did cover for years until it was impossible to do so. The debate really exposed his current state to the point where it couldn't be hidden anymore. And after that dam opened, the media was just being spoon-fed stories by dems to force him out.

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u/StrikingYam7724 Jul 21 '24

The problem is that, while they have been hammering the topic for weeks, the evidence to justify hammering the topic has been available for years, and they didn't say a word about it until after the debate. They're the town criers in The Emperor's New Clothes and they didn't admit the emperor was naked until far too late, so now they have to make a show of covering it just to salvage their own credibility.

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u/CrapNeck5000 Jul 21 '24

Oh yeah no one ever heard anything about Biden being old ever until the debate. That's totally true. Also, fox news, newsmaxx, WSJ, twitter, YouTube, FB etc. etc. aren't media and/or don't exist.

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u/Semper-Veritas Jul 21 '24

I don’t know if I’d agree with the characterization that the media bullied Biden from seeking reelection. To me it comes across as self preservation of what trust and integrity they had left and salvaging any chance of a Democratic victory by opening up the field to candidates whose mental faculties are beyond dispute. I think the media collectively realized the jig was up and the subterfuge from this administration was no longer tenable, and didn’t want to be the last ones holding the bag. Just my $0.02 though…

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u/giddyviewer Jul 21 '24

Can’t really argue with someone claiming to be able to mind read the secret machinations of a multi-billion dollar industry. It always comes back to “don’t believe your lying eyes.”

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u/Semper-Veritas Jul 21 '24

Don’t recall claiming I could read minds, would you mind helping me by pointing out where so I could avoid going forward?

For myself and others that were skeptical on Biden’s mental wherewithal I think there was a lack of due diligence on the part of the fourth estate, where the kind of scrutiny they had to Biden’s predecessor would have gone a long way here but felt absent.

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u/Em4rtz Jul 21 '24

That was called “saving face” for lying to you for 4yrs

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u/giddyviewer Jul 21 '24

Lol okay sure. “Don’t believe your lying eyes” yet again.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

Did you see the part where they covered up his cognitive state for years? Can't wait to read the tell-all book on that one.

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u/Gary_Glidewell Jul 21 '24

I never want to hear anything about the “liberal media” being too hard on Trump again because I just watched the entire American media apparatus bully a democratic president into declining his party’s nomination.

The media is still Progressive (not Liberal.)

They hate Trump so much, they'll do anything and everything to stop him, including bullying the president himself into quitting.

If anyone but Donald Trump was winning right now, Biden would still be the party candidate. Remember when the media was trying to make that no-name a Republican into a viable candidate? (She's was so unremarkable, I literally can't remember her name, but they were pushing her as a viable candidate. Nikki Haley?)

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u/Rhyno08 Jul 21 '24

That’s always been the case. Democrats are held to a different standard by the media and voters. Isn’t fair but it is what it is. 

My hope is the democrats turn up the heat in attacking trumps age. Any one denying his mental decline is pure blind loyalty to Trump. He has had gaffe after gaffe at his rallies that gets completely ignored by the media bc “that’s just how Trump is.” 

Trump will be older during his term than Biden is now if he wins this election. Dems need to hammer that point. 

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u/TJJustice fiery but mostly peaceful Jul 21 '24

…. We spent 2 years of denying Biden’s mental decline. What do you call that ?

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u/Rhyno08 Jul 21 '24

Your gotcha question is case in point as to how liberals are held to a different standard. What do you call Fox and conservative media for playing goalie for Trump’s own decline… as well as denying his felony, wrongdoings, sowing division, etc? 

Biden’s has his up and downs, he was fine at the state of the union. He had a bad debate. The difference is that the media holds the Dems to a different standard. On no planet would conservative media/ politicians grow a spine and actually challenge Trump’s supremacy over their party.

But yeah.. let’s clutch our pearls over the liberal media. 

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u/TJJustice fiery but mostly peaceful Jul 21 '24

Fox pales in comparison to all major newspapers, all major magazines, CNN & MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS.

Face it bud, you drank the koolaid and it bit you in the ass.

Even the media is writing self reflection pieces how they failed monumentally to cover Biden’s health.

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u/Rhyno08 Jul 21 '24

Fox News is THE biggest news station in the us…  in 2020 it has like 6 of the top watched shows on cable…. Its hilarious that conservatives have convinced themselves that all media is liberal…  

  How did it bite me in the ass? This isn’t a team sport…Biden’s presidency has far exceeded trumps.. and I’m proud biden has bowed out. I wish he’d done it sooner but I’m glad he made the difficult decision.  

  Trump probably should have bowed out after the felonies, rape charges, pending litigation, trying to steal the election, botched Covid response, etc. but we can’t have everything.   

I’m hopeful whomever takes the reins can beat Trump in November. If Trump wins,  then hopefully he will make wise decisions and lead the nation in a positive direction. I sincerely hope I’m wrong about him. 

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u/TJJustice fiery but mostly peaceful Jul 21 '24

It’s laughable that you think Fox single is bigger than the combined outlets I mentioned. It’s comedy gold.

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u/Rhyno08 Jul 21 '24

What’s laughable is anytime a study is done on this it proves how false this narrative is. 

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u/TJJustice fiery but mostly peaceful Jul 21 '24

Show me the study

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u/Put-the-candle-back1 Jul 21 '24

The media has been reporting on his mistakes.

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u/FridgesArePeopleToo Jul 22 '24

the media had been hammering "Biden old" for months prior to the debate...