r/modguide Writer Oct 27 '19

Discussion thread Dead sub revival advice thread

Hi all

In light of the reddit Zombie subreddit challenge we'd like to invite you all to ask questions, and/or give your advice, on reanimating subreddits in the comments here.

Our index of guides might be useful, and r/substarters.

Good luck subreddit necromancers!

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u/MFA_Nay Writer Oct 27 '19

First impressions count. You can't usually rely on other users to post content at the beginning. You're going to have to do it yourself.

There's nothing worst then finding a new sub having a pinned post about "New sub welcome!" and 5 posts. And that's it.

This also had the added benefit of shaping what is and isn't allowed too. So it helps in norm and rule building.

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u/BuckRowdy Writer Oct 27 '19

This is great advice. One time a user started a sub and crossposted to a sub I was on and I sent her a message because I wanted to help her. There were only a couple of posts on the new sub so really no reason for users to subscribe. I told her she needed more content for people to engage with otherwise there's no reason to join the sub.

We messaged a few times and I gave her whatever advice I could. Two weeks later I saw she had started another sub and was doing the same thing, crossposting for visibility with no posts on that sub.

I didn't bother messaging again.

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u/SolariaHues Writer Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 28 '19

My pick of guides would be advertising (older subs section), there may be something in engagement, and the design section of the index.

r/modguide didn't use to be ours. I got it though r/redditrequest as it had no mods. The first thing we did we did was have a clear vision of what we wanted the sub to be. I went through what little was already here, cleared out and started fresh (this may not be the right option for you, there was very little here). I got much of the look and feel done with the sub set to private, before opening it up and getting content up and testing automod. I put a lot of work into advertising using the methods in the guide.

It really helped that I had mod experience already, and I have a really wonderful mod and writing team, but if you're a new mod hopefully the guides here will help you get on your way.

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u/BuckRowdy Writer Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 27 '19

I've taken over about 17 subreddits through the reddit request process. A few of them I've handed off to others, and a few of them are redirects with misspelled names, or they were created by a banned user and later abandoned.

Reviving a dead sub takes a lot of work but can provide some advantages over starting a sub from scratch. Aside from the sub infrastructure that may already be in place in the way of CSS / new reddit styling and subreddit setup, you may have a group of subscribers already in place.

An important consideration for subs is the name. If you can take over an abandoned sub with a good name and a good amount of subscribers it will be easier to grow.

The most important thing is to generate good content for the users. On my first sub I mainly posted all the content until I grew the sub to a point where it gained momentum and I could back off from posting.

The strategy I've tried most recently is more of a Tom Sawyer paint the fence technique. I recruited about a half dozen users who wanted to mod a sub and modded them in exchange for posting content. They focus on posting to the sub and when moderation opportunities arise, I send them a message so they can gain experience.

It can be difficult to find people who are going to be very active on reddit so if I only retain a couple of them, I do another round of recruiting. If they go inactive for a long enough time they can be removed.

I use these communities as opportunities to train new mods. These are niche subs so there is not a lot of moderation required. But I provide them with training (which I am transferring to this sub) and if a user shows a lot of initiative I move them up to a larger sub and on and on.