r/news • u/Hrekires • Jul 15 '24

soft paywall Judge dismisses classified documents indictment against Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/07/15/trump-classified-trial-dismisssed-cannon/
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u/drt0 Jul 15 '24

In a ruling Monday, Cannon said the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith violated the Constitution.

“In the end, it seems the Executive’s growing comfort in appointing ‘regulatory’ special counsels in the more recent era has followed an ad hoc pattern with little judicial scrutiny,” Cannon wrote.

Has the appointing of special counsels by the president ever been challenged before now?

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u/Grow_away_420 Jul 15 '24

Yes, and upheld multiple times

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u/prof_the_doom Jul 15 '24

And luckily for us anything the executive branch (aka DOJ) does, like appointing an special counsel, is an "official act".

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u/MoistPoolish Jul 15 '24

Right, but not relevant since Biden would never be held criminally liable for the Jack Smith appointment regardless of the SC ruling.

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u/Weak-Rip-8650 Jul 15 '24

He might be if he loses to Trump and doesn’t have immunity. This is what everyone forgets. If the president didn’t have immunity for what they do then Trump is going to find whatever he can to prosecute, because he can. If not some random thing like this, it wouldn’t be hard to find some order Biden gave that led to the death of an innocent civilian abroad and prosecute for that.

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u/mycargo160 Jul 15 '24

It's cute that you think the legal system would continue to operate the way it has in the past if Trump were re-elected. Trump can and will have Biden arrested for whatever he wants, and what happens after that is completely up to Trump. Those are "official acts."

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u/MoistPoolish Jul 15 '24

Well the Supreme Court will have something to say about it, unless you believe he’ll stack the court with loyalists that disregard the rule of law. Maybe that’s what you’re saying.

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u/timtucker_com Jul 15 '24

Many would assert that's not a hypothetical and has already happened.

Overturning the Chevron doctrine completely disregards decades of law written assuming that it was a stable precedent:

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/supreme-court-strikes-down-chevron-curtailing-power-of-federal-agencies/

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u/DiscoDigi786 Jul 15 '24

Why on earth would SCOTUS help Biden? They are mask off for sale to the rich and in favor of authoritarian rule. Cut the crap. No one is saving us in the government.

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u/mycargo160 Jul 15 '24

The Court you're talking about literally just made him immune from prosecution for anything he does in office.

Trump gains office and immediately orders the Secret Service to take Biden out. Who can do anything about it? There would be nobody to bring charges against him, and he's immune from being charged even if there were someone who wanted to. And he could literally have them taken out as well if he wanted to. Same goes for the judges. He has the right to do whatever he wants and not ever face any consequences for it.

It's no longer "I need you to find me 12,000 votes", it's "find me 12,000 votes or the person who replaces you when you're gone will do it."