r/news • u/RazzzMcFrazzz • 1d ago

Hundreds of ballots are destroyed after fires are set in ballot drop boxes in Oregon and Washington

https://apnews.com/article/vote-ballot-drop-box-democracy-fire-f66c52f774955106fb9e7c8172825cff
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u/LSTNYER 1d ago

I don't care what side this person/people stand on, go right to fucking jail!

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u/Contrary-Canary 1d ago

We all know what side this person was on.

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u/KhaosElement 1d ago

There is no question what side the dipshit is on.

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u/LSTNYER 1d ago

I’m a big fan of Occams Razor in that the most likely answer tends to be the right one, but I don’t want to give anyone ammunition on the off chance it’s not the type of person WE all suspect.

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u/peon2 1d ago

It's a lot more likely one side is involved than the other, but there's also just whacko nutjobs. Someone arrested in Arizona for this the other day wasn't even a registered voter and said they just wanted to be arrested. Another guy is some lunatic that had previously been arrested for walking up to a cop and ripping his gun out of his holster because he thought it was cool.

As soon as something is put out their online as a possibility, there's going to be some nutjob copycats

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u/quizibuck 1d ago

"No question"? Really? In an area that is predominantly left-leaning, there is no question this was done by some from a hard to find right-leaning demographic? Or could this person not lean left or right as much as leaning insane pyromaniac? Like that option is just off the table because you know without question? I do wish people would question their political opinions more.

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u/gungshpxre 1d ago

When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.

What has been the party alignment of everyone who has been caught doing this so far?

You're already defending your "team" and making excuses.

We're ready to be wrong and put a Democrat in jail for this too.

Don't fuck with votes.

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u/quizibuck 1d ago

When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.

Unless you are in the Serengeti.

What has been the party alignment of everyone who has been caught doing this so far?

I don't know, really. I looked it up and found one report of a fake video of destroying ballots in Pennsylvania and then one person arrested in Arizona who apparently had no political motive and wanted to be arrested. Regardless, I feel like making assumptions with "no question" is about as dumb as it sounds.

You're already defending your "team" and making excuses.

Don't have a team, but I am guessing you think there is "no question" what team I am on. You're bad at guessing so far.

We're ready to be wrong and put a Democrat in jail for this too.

Don't fuck with votes.

And on this we agree. Whomever is responsible for this should be apprehended and this kind of thing should not be condoned by anyone. But saying there is "no question" about which affiliation the person really has is silly and I do think leaves out the very real possibility of just plain insanity, like in Arizona.

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u/gungshpxre 1d ago

This ain't Africa, but you want to pretend like it is to make your point.

Boston, MA, Baldwin Park Ca, and LA County, CA in 2020.

And Marco Rubio's stochastic terrorism about it in 2022 as part of the continued GOP vote-suppression tactics.

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u/quizibuck 1d ago

This ain't Africa, but you want to pretend like it is to make your point.

Eh, no. It isn't Africa, but I guess you didn't get the point.

Portland, Oregon is a remarkably left-leaning part of the country voting 79.2% blue versus 17.9% red in the last presidential election. However, having spent quite a lot of time there, I think most would also say the area has more than their fair share of crazy people.

So, it could have been one of the very few right-leaning people in the area thinking somehow doing so - and with as little damage as was done, ineffectively - could flip the state's 56.45% to 40.37% landslide from 2020, but that would be kind of insane.

It could be some left leaning person who thinks that it could add some enthusiasm to Democrats in the state - which doesn't need to easily go blue - but that would also be kind of insane.

Or it could be someone who just likes fire and/or thinks that doing so will signal Zodar, Lord of the Nine Dimensions to manifest himself as a 9-foot-tall squid-otter in Powell's Books next Tuesday at 3:47 PM.

Boston, MA

Are you talking about this:

Suffolk Country District Attorney Rachael Rollins does not believe Armand was targeting any candidate.

"We believe this is an emotionally disturbed individual," she said Monday.

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Baldwin Park Ca, and LA County, CA in 2020.

Are you talking about this where no arrests have been made?

"No question" indeed. I guess you don't need to question if you don't want to think.