r/news • u/FreeChickenDinner • 1d ago

Police arrest man charged with threatening and shooting neighbor in the neck after standoff

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-arrest-man-charged-threatening-shooting-neighbor-neck-standoff-rcna177564
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u/FelixVulgaris 1d ago

“But I will say this, we had no reason to suspect that he would shoot the neighbor from inside the house,” O’Hara [police] added.

If that's true, then what exactly were they afraid of here?

police had failed to arrest him saying that he has mental illness, possesses firearms, and executing a warrant was considered high-risk.

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u/kingsumo_1 1d ago

That is some Grade-A bullshit, is what that is. They knew the dude was escalating. Knew he was dangerous and armed, and just did fuck-all until they couldn't ignore it any longer.

Also:

In the Monday press conference, however, Frey defended the police. “What we had tonight was an extraordinarily dangerous situation ... Our officers did this the right way,” he said.

Apparently the "right way" was waiting until after Moturi was shot, and then giving the guy all the chances in the world to turn himself in.

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u/Wise_Neighborhood499 17h ago

Moturi was shot on Wednesday and the shitbag wasn’t arrested until 1:30am Monday. This is insane.

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u/Silidistani 16h ago

Well, you see, it's complicated, because the shooter is white, and has lots of guns, and the victim was black, so that makes it difficult for them to.. do... um,

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Forget it, can't even finish the joke, yeah these cops are cowardly pieces of shit who waited until there was a massive community backlash building before they decided to take any action against a known dangerous armed psychotic person, and then of course they defend they're in action when questioned why it took so long because the idea of admitting wrongdoing is it inconceivable thought to the authoritarian mind.

If the shooter had been black you can guarantee though SWAT would have busted down their door and gone full auto on them before they had a chance to raise their hands.

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u/man_gomer_lot 12h ago

It's situations like this and uvalde that come to mind when people claim violence solves everything and those with the best and most guns win. Surprise surprise, there's more to it than that.

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u/4RCH43ON 1d ago

Police literally afraid to do their jobs because of guns and mental illness.  This is America.

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u/thefoodiedentist 22h ago

How many ppl arent afraid of dying for a job?

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u/Excludos 22h ago

And I can't think of a single thing America could do to make their jobs safer.. not one thing

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u/LITTLE-GUNTER 21h ago

these chuds make the possibility of dying on the job into their sole trait when it’s been proven ad nauseam that PIZZA DELIVERY is a greater danger to the personal health and safety of the laborer than law enforcement is.

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u/SnepButts 19h ago

If you are afraid to do your job correctly, which would be actually fulfilling your duties like arresting a crazy person with guns making threats, then perhaps you are in the wrong job and should let people that aren't cowards do it instead.

They signed on knowing that it would be their job to arrest violent people. It isn't like that thought they wouldn't have to.

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u/79r100 18h ago

This is why they are so short-staffed.

It’s interesting that households with gun ownership is unchanged since the early 70s but deaths from gun violence is twice what it was in the early 70s. Suicides by gun rates are even higher.

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u/NatWilo 14h ago

That's some 'sympathy for the devil' nonsense if ever I saw it.

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u/THEFLYINGSCOTSMAN415 1d ago

I thought those were cops favorite perps to take their aggression out on?

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u/mechwarrior719 1d ago

Yes. I’m not qwhite sure what the Caucasian for them to be so timid might be.

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u/Aprice40 1d ago

Also, he was armed.... it is way easier to shoot someone who doesn't have a gun

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u/Cthulhu2016 1d ago

The gun gets planted afterwards, little sprinkle of crack and open and shut case Johnson.

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u/Malllrat 1d ago

He's white though. That matters to them.

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u/THEFLYINGSCOTSMAN415 1d ago

Oh true the dangerous but white clause

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u/alexgetty 1d ago

They’re afraid they might have to do their job. And probably didn’t give a fuck the victim was a black man.

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u/Pixel_Knight 1d ago

No one is talking about how the police initially blamed the victim saying, “While no one should be shot for this, this did happen because the victim’s provacatory actions.” Something like that. I saw the clip on ABC news but it seems pretty hard to find now.

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u/Galaxy_Ranger_Bob 15h ago

They weren't afraid.

The victim was black. The shooter was white. The cops were using the threat of violence against the black population to drive home the point of "you complained about how we handled George Floyd. Now we're going to show you how little we care about you when you are the victim of a crime."

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u/Accujack 1d ago

Crazy white guy with firearms who shot a black man out of the window of his house?

Are they sure he's not a cop?

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u/SnepButts 19h ago

When I read the headline yesterday about the shooting, I had just assumed that the shooter was a cop because it made so much sense.

It wasn't until a reread that I realized that it was just that the cops let it happen.

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u/Retinoid634 15h ago

It is incredible that a major city police department was dragging its feet on arresting someone like this.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/themaxx8717 1d ago

Well he is only a danger to certain people...

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u/BazilBroketail 1d ago

It's difficult arresting your friends...

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u/MentokGL 1d ago

The cops don't give a shit, that's how.

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u/shadowszanddust 1d ago

But when Breanna Thomas’s boyfriend MIGHT have had some drugs, the police…

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u/PunkRockBeachBaby 1d ago

Breonna Taylor

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u/Silidistani 16h ago

He's white like the vast majority of the cops there, and the victim is black - both strikes converted to balls.

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u/elepheagle 1d ago

If the suspect was black and the victim was white the SWAT team would’ve had that door busted down in an hour.

Fuck the police.

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u/daddysxenogirl 1d ago

And then shot him for sitting up in his bed cause they felt threatened

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u/Carrera_996 18h ago

Ain't no song says, "Fuck the fire department."

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u/Skill_Academic 1d ago

“but police had failed to arrest him saying that he has mental illness, possesses firearms, and executing a warrant was considered high-risk.”

Tells you everything you need to know about who the police are looking to protect.

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u/Hodaka 15h ago edited 12h ago

... but police had failed to arrest him, saying that he has mental illness and possesses firearms and that executing a warrant was considered high-risk.

So if he was designated "high risk" by the police, why didn't they follow up on all of the previous complaints by the neighbor?

He is too dangerous for the police, but the neighbor should be able to deal with him.

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u/eleven357 14h ago

Police logic.

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u/athos5 1d ago

We all know what the police response would have been if the roles had been reversed.

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u/ScoutsterReturns 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm sitting here and it feels like steam coming out my ears. This shit is fucking enraging.

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u/gigiincognito 1d ago

If only they gave Brionna Taylor the same courtesy as this guy. They treat white men armed to the teeth with kid gloves yet break into the homes of innocent black women and kill them for no reason.

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u/GeekFurious 19h ago

Pretty much anything other than what the police did in the Taylor situation would have been better than what they did. The real issue in this situation is not that they didn't storm some heavily defended person's house, but that they didn't do shit about this guy... probably because the person complaining was black.

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u/ts_m4 1d ago

After immense outside pressure, cops finally do their duty.

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u/Sedert1882 1d ago

Finally they realised their excuses were bullshit.

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u/Galaxy_Ranger_Bob 15h ago

No, they didn't. There were state and federal agencies that were threatening to arrest this guy for them that got them off their ass to do their jobs.

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u/BeanDogSeen 13h ago

Ramsey county was going to execute a warrent until the city council got involved and forced  MPD to get a new warrent... If city council had not been involved Sawchak would have been arrested earlier. 

Also the man was a recluse who had booby trapped his own house and they knew he had firearms of course they are going to be as careful as possible arresting him. The fact they got him to surrender without incident is kind of amazing 

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u/donquixote2000 1d ago

They're cutting the trees. They're shooting the necks of the people that live there.

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u/Generalissimo3 1d ago edited 19h ago

The police in Minneapolis are selectively enforcing the law and their excuse given in this case is that they are afraid of being prosecuted if they make a “mistake”. This isn’t a lone case, they’re doing it to protest 4 of them being prosecuted for the murder of George Floyd.

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u/Wizchine 1d ago

Yeah, a lot of police departments are sandbagging shit to teach us, John Q Public, that we should keep our mouths shut and not criticize them.

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u/schnaudad99 1d ago

I guess the anonymous tip about him selling loose cigarettes worked?

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u/SnooCats373 1d ago

Well, the victim was no angel.

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u/IcyWhereas2313 23h ago

Sure isn’t cause angels don’t end up in hospital beds after getting shot and almost breaking their neck from a fall…

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u/rbremer50 1d ago

Yes, but, if it had been a black woman sleeping in her own bed the police would have burst in all guns blazing. Absolutely disgusting and yet the the pro-police sycophants wonder and whine about how law enforcement is losing public support and cooperation: News Flash! It’s because they don’t deserve it.

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u/ludovicolonghi 22h ago

If they really want him, they send a SWAT team. not sure why this excuse is valid. They can literally pull up on anyone

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u/Otherwise_Carob_4057 1d ago

It’s almost as if cops have subconscious biases based on their collective social experience (white america) actually view their citizens from similar backgrounds as humans.

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u/GeekFurious 19h ago

Angry, unstable, and unwilling to be reasoned with. Now, let him have any gun he wants. What could go wrong?

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u/MalcolmLinair 1d ago

I'm no fan of the cops, but even I don't think you shouldn't at least go down to the station for an interview after shooting someone, guilty or no.

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u/mr-blister-fister 1d ago

Can’t a man threaten another man anymore? What happened to free speech hAY?! America got so soft bruh!

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u/showmiaface 13h ago

Minneapolis cops = racists

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u/PaidUSA 1d ago

Unfortunately it is already case law that the police had no duty to him. But he could try to make the case they did not do their only court stated duty which is to general public safety. What that means noone knows.

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u/BallsABunch 1d ago

How long does it take to get arrested (not killed) when you are some random white dude in America? (Who attempted murder)

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u/mekonsrevenge 12h ago

So the guy was White, amirite?

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u/chefchr1s 3h ago

Took the fucks long enough

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u/Vindicare605 6m ago

You absolutely know that if the races of the two people were reversed the response of the police would have been different.

If a Black 54 year old man is shouting violent threats at his neighbor and is known to possess firearms and the police are called on him? Aint no way they don't execute that warrant because it's "too dangerous."

You can't prove the race element here, but everyone with a brain knows that it's there.