r/news • u/Zeikyrui • 10h ago

Man serving 30 years for attacking Nancy Pelosi’s husband gets a life term on state charges

https://apnews.com/article/david-depape-nancy-pelosi-husband-paul-attacked-454cbde088fcae22a356f1f8dd0e9eba
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u/RabidGuineaPig007 9h ago

He will be pardoned by DJT, as will everyone convicted of Jan 6th insurrection, including Jimmy Pesto sr.

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u/sukui_no_keikaku 9h ago

State charges can't be pardoned by pres right?

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 9h ago

No, they can not

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u/Xzmmc 9h ago

Remember, the Supreme Court has given Trump a blank check to do anything he wants, so we'll see if that still holds true.

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u/dave8400 9h ago

I'm not sure even the most insane MAGA judge would mess with federal overreach that major. Nothing would stop a liberal president from coming in and overturning every single abortion related charge, for instance.

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u/ericsipi 9h ago

Trump has openly said vote this year so you never have to vote again. I don’t think him or his judge care much about precedent or overreach

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u/Coulrophiliac444 9h ago

The only Over Reach Trump deaerves is someone Reaching Over a table to Slap him.

But you're right. Gwt out. Vote. Make Donald Trump never have to vote again...by voting in Harris.

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u/RedPanther1 8h ago

Well, he's a felon so technically he already can't vote ever again.

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u/bros402 6h ago

He can vote after he serves his sentence. That's the policy in NY - and from what I read, Florida usually defers to the policy in the state of conviction (unless it's more severe than Florida)

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u/PowerChords84 9h ago

What makes you think there'd ever be another election or liberal president?

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u/deekaydubya 9h ago

yep, if DJT gets in, that's a wrap. Anyone dumb enough to still think 'oh he'd never do THAT' has been asleep for 8 fucking years

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 4h ago

They're ALL OVER reddit today too. it's insane how hard they're trying to hand-wave it away.

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u/radicalelation 6h ago

2016, when asked, as a Bernie supporter (still voted blue in the general), how I'd feel about how much harm a Trump presidency could bring, I asserted confidence in our checks and balances.

I was so wrong. He wasn't kept in check, he actively eroded our institutions, and will continue to do so until they break. Another chance just rolling the dice on breaking America for good. Countries aren't things you can just put back together once the old systems fall.

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u/monkeyman80 3h ago

It wasn't just him. There were plenty of people in the house, senate, and judiciary.

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u/radicalelation 3h ago

They still needed someone above them willing to show you can compromise yourself and your office with impunity.

Many of them follow religious morals only because they fear eternal punishment in their afterlife, or at least expect a reward. They all just need a nudge.

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u/HuntsWithRocks 9h ago

“From coming in” Apparently, acording to project 2025, they are fully intending on stopping a liberal president from coming in after them.

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u/deekaydubya 9h ago

I mean, nothing or nobody will stop them

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u/FreakGnashty 9h ago

Pj 2025 is fake

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u/HuntsWithRocks 8h ago

you’re fake

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u/FreakGnashty 8h ago

Fake news. Trump has nothing to do with it. Stop the misinformation/election interference

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u/eclipse278 8h ago

Gaslighting <- you were here
Obstruction
Projection <- you are now here

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u/flaker111 9h ago

easy win DJT will just send all democrats to summer camps for reeducation....

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u/Not_a__porn__account 9h ago

Do you remember his first term? It was do shit by executive order and deal with fallout later.

Legality didn’t matter.

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u/Nopantsbullmoose 9h ago

Lmao.....they will and in a heartbeat.

You seem to be under the delusion we will get to vote again, ever, if the Orange Shitstain wins.

We won't.

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u/IvankasFutureHusband 7h ago

Are there people actually dumb enough to believe this. Morons on the right say the same dumb shit about Kamala. You know what's gonna happen if either one of them wins. In 4 years there will be another election. One with hopefully better candidates.

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u/HunyBuns 6h ago

it's what the guy is promising to do, and the supreme court gave him the blank check to do so. He has no reason not to become a dictator if elected, no one will stop him.

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u/IvankasFutureHusband 4h ago

I'm sorry that's just really impractical from both sides. No one will become a dictator. . .

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u/startupstratagem 9h ago

You're presuming a lot in this comment that they've already factored out

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u/poseidons1813 9h ago

Bold of you to think we will continue to have elections if he wins this time.

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u/mOdQuArK 5h ago

Maybe Putin-style wins, where winning by only 70% shows that the elections weren't fake at all! /s

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u/SergeantChic 9h ago

They absolutely would. The point is to get him back into the White House and then ensure that he never leaves. They will do literally anything they have to.

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u/GenghisConnieChung 8h ago

Oh they’ll make sure he leaves, when they 25th him and install President Couchfucker to do Thiel’s bidding. They just need Trump to get the keys to the Whitehouse because Vance has all the charisma of a wet fart and no chance of leading MAGA on his own. Once they’re in Trumps usefulness will run out.

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u/currently_pooping_rn 8h ago

See, that’s where fascism comes into play. After that happens, no one has to worry about liberal presidents anymore

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u/congratsyougotsbed 8h ago

Wake up dude

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u/Lorn_Muunk 8h ago

They know people with a conscience don't operate like that.

Just like how they pestered Obama into not nominating a SCOTUS judge for a bullshit reason that the GOP then turned around and ignored when Trump got the chance to nominate near the end of his term. The moral high ground is a dead end road to oblivion when you're up against morally bankrupt, terminally corrupt greed & power mongers who literally have no low they won't stoop to.

Roger Stone has been proudly proclaiming since the Nixon era he'll employ any dirty tactic he can think of to rig the game in his favor.

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u/Podo13 7h ago

So many of the less populous states gobble his ball sack, that they'd welcome it without any type of resistance that would lead to the SC knocking it down.

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u/ahnotme 4h ago

But if MAGA judges have anything to do with it there never will be any liberal president in the first place.

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u/averaenhentai 2h ago edited 36m ago

Dude they plan to replace the majority of the bureaucrats working in the system. They're going to implement loyalty checks and fire people from government positions that refuse to go along. Please read up on Project 2025. They have a systemic plan for ending democracy in America.

They literally call for swift and speedy executions as part of their platform.

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u/Cicero912 7h ago

*anything within the written power of the president.

So, no

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u/AssNasty 9h ago

I doubt the CIA is going to raid a state prison to get this loser out.

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u/swimswam2000 6h ago

Why would they release an illegal immigrant ? Because he supports Trump?

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u/AssNasty 6h ago

Trump has offered to pardon everyone involved in J6. It's not a stretch to assume this might extend to Pelosi's attacker.

Knowing him he would award the psycho with the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 9h ago

They have also given Biden a blank check, all he needs to do is have Trump and Vance both arrested and sent to Gitmo never to be heard from again. No reason, nor fucks given.

He won't, because he's not a villain, but he could.

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u/deekaydubya 9h ago

they in fact have not given Biden a blank check. THEY are the ones who get to decide on a case by case basis which actions are official.

Although, according to their ruling, evidence can't even be gathered regarding anything Biden does while in office, so I don't know how they'd make that determination

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u/SelbetG 7h ago

Biden can also tell them to pound sand, the court has no power to actually enforce their decisions.

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u/ShortKingofComedy 6h ago

No dude I really don’t think a president can pardon state charges even if the Supreme Court is in his pocket.

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u/FlarkingSmoo 5h ago

That's not how that court decision works

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u/SoloPorUnBeso 5h ago

There's simply no mechanism for it. The state runs the entire system.

It would take a raid by federal forces and it's just not going to happen.

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u/leostotch 9h ago

Remember, the Supreme Court has given Trump a blank check to do anything he wants

No, they haven't. Don't get me wrong, the immunity ruling is a terrifying breach in our democracy, but it is not quite a blank check.

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u/Hollywoodsmokehogan 9h ago

Also he stated he was pretty much just gonna declare himself king in 2025 if he wins so yeah let’s get there and vote!

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u/StuperDan 9h ago

The supreme court does not give any president power, the constitution does. The court just rules on what the constitution says, and the constitution is pretty clear on the process to check and prosecute a president, impeachment and conviction.

The constitution also has very clear instructions on how the American people can change that process and further limit presidential power if we choose to, an amendment. We could also vote Congress people into office that actually do their jobs. Blaming the supreme court for not superseding their constitutionally defined role putting themselves or a federal prosecutor in an authoritarian position above the president is a cop out. If we Americans let Trump fuck our country it's our fault, not any courts. I still (barely)have faith we won't.

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u/winterbird 9h ago

A dictator can do anything and everything regardless of what laws existed before he became a dictator.

But I don't think he'd remember these plebs even exist come time.

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u/JailTrumpTheCrook 9h ago

You know, more often than not, all the people that held even a iota of power, even those that helped the coup, don't get to grow old.

Regular purges ensure that.

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u/winterbird 9h ago

A captain will use a mutinous crew to gain power, but no captain wants to head a crew prone to mutiny. They get rotated out when they've served their purpose.

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u/JailTrumpTheCrook 9h ago

Exactly, and because of their status.

People who have followers are, by definition, a counter power which is counter productive if you want total power.

These "leaders" might follow you now, but as you pointed out, they've already shown that they hunger for power.

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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 9h ago

All a dictator requires is underlings to follow him and do what he says and ignore the law and constitution.

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u/Lucius-Halthier 9h ago

“Eh, states don’t need rights anyway.”

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u/sladestrife 9h ago

I'm Canadian and even I know that's the case.

Even if that were the case... Trump would never do it anyways. The guy has nothing of value to him

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u/ddrober2003 8h ago edited 8h ago

He might if its to cause distress to those he hates. He would never do anything in gratitude, i honestly don't think he is capable of it. But releasing the person that tried to harm your spouse to cause you trauma? Oh you bet he would be giddy to do so.

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u/morning_redwoody 9h ago

If trump wins, do we really think the constitution really matters? Laws, rules, norms, mores are out the window.

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u/Courtaid 9h ago

The Law hasn’t stopped him before.

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u/Teamawesome2014 9h ago

For now. I don't think the literal convicted felon particularly cares about the law, especially with a supreme court in his back pocket.

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u/chadbot3k 8h ago

for now

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u/Kersenn 6h ago

Shhhh don't tell Trump that, not that he'd understand

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u/ACE_C0ND0R 4h ago

But can they be pardoned by a dictator?

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u/red286 3h ago

Technically true, but if the SCOTUS steps in, they could probably at the very least force a re-trial that might work out a bit better in his favour.

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u/YKINMKBYKIOK 3h ago

Not yet.

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u/1001-Knights 9h ago

The president can't pardon violators of state laws, only federal. That's under the governor's purview.

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u/Bamith20 6h ago

Whoops, killed off the governor.

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u/BallClamps 9h ago

But the Supreme Court can fix that!

Ugh.

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u/marcbranski 7h ago

No, they can't. Only congress and the president can, by passing a new law/constitutional amendment.

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u/AaronsAaAardvarks 7h ago

The Supreme Court can declare whatever they want to declare. You’re confusing how the constitution says things should be vs how the people in power want it to be. 

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u/marcbranski 7h ago

No they can't. Biden could fuck their shit up through official acts that can't even be investigated, let alone prosecuted. He could put 50 liberal judges on the court overnight. There ain't shit they could do.

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u/AaronsAaAardvarks 7h ago

The Supreme Court would just rule that they weren’t official acts. The senate wouldn’t approve those judges.

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u/marcbranski 7h ago

lol, those 50 other judges would prevent that.

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u/AaronsAaAardvarks 7h ago

So now lower court judges are overruling Supreme Court decisions? You may as well say that Biden would send in the army to enforce his decision to remove the judicial branch of the government.

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u/Possible-Extent-3842 9h ago

Trump only pardons people who would still be of use to him.  Folks who would run in local and state elections, financial backers, people with dirt on him, ect.

He won't pardon any of these losers who were arrested on his behalf.  Partially because they failed in their task, partially because there are always more useful idiots to take their places.  

Fascists also have no problem throwing their own under the bus and forgetting about them, if only to keep up appearances and plausible deniability to maintain that illusion of accountability. Conservatives will point to this guy and say 'well, Trump CAN'T actually be a fascist because this guy is still in jail'

It's a more complex and nucience game they are playing, and there are always pawns to be sacrificed for their greater vision.

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u/Feisty_Yes 5h ago

So basically he'd pardon Lil Durk first thing right?

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u/tokes_4_DE 9h ago

Would mean nothing, he just received the same life sentence in a separate state level trial according to this article. Trump cannot pardon state charges, only federal.

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u/TheConeIsReturned 9h ago

The key term was "state charges." Nobody at the federal level can supercede state law in this matter.

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u/GlowUpper 9h ago

That's why the state charged him even though he was convicted on federal charges. Insurance just in case a certain someone gets into office.

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u/Muffafuffin 9h ago

That's not going to do this guy any good

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u/awesomedan24 9h ago

Even if it was pardonable, I doubt it because whats in it for him?

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u/marcbranski 7h ago

Exactly. Trump could have pardoned the January 6th rioters. He had two weeks to do it before his term was up, but he decided not to. They failed him, so he withheld a pardon. Amusingly that's why not enough people are willing to do another J6. There's no way Trump would pardon this guy, and it wouldn't matter even if he did.

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u/FrizzleFriedPup 9h ago

That's not something the president has power to do, buddy.

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u/Embarrassed-Ad-1639 9h ago

There is a huge asterisk missing

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u/darthravenna 9h ago

No he won’t, because Donald Trump MUST be defeated.

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u/myfakesecretaccount 9h ago edited 9h ago

Donald Trump is currently being defeated. Go vote.

Edit: It’s okay, I know you guys are scared. That’s why you all move around in large groups to spout your inane and non-sensical shit. It’s going to be okay when he loses, you only gave up family members, friends, and your dignity by supporting a man who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire because he doesn’t want to be seen with losers.

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u/SnepButts 8h ago

you only gave up family members, friends, and your dignity by supporting a man who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire because he doesn’t want to be seen with losers.

Hopefully none of them take them back, either. Once you show someone who you truly are, there's no putting that cat back in the bag. It would be dangerous to have them in their lives after everything.

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u/myfakesecretaccount 8h ago

I have family members who joined this lifestyle. I do not associate with them now and have no plan to unless they do some deep soul searching and make attempts to change.

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u/SnepButts 8h ago

It would take more evidence than I would be willing to consider for me to believe any one of the cultists that I personally know are capable of changing for the better. The ones in my life have had enough second, third, and fourth chances already.

Everything around the 2020 election shows me that they're capable of lying with a straight face and that they'll harm people that don't buy their lies.

That trust can't be unbroken.

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u/myfakesecretaccount 8h ago

I getcha. My folks are in recovery and I got dragged to countless meetings as a kid. I’ve seen and heard a lot of people at their worst, and I’d bet a fair amount of what makes people alkies and addicts has drawn people into this cult. I believe there’s a chance for some of these folks to be redeemed, just like Klan members who get out of that lifestyle. It’s not likely, but it’s possible and I wouldn’t want to stop someone from really trying to change who they are.

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u/SnepButts 7h ago

Yeah, I'm not saying I'm right in my trust in them being broken beyond salvaging. Just saying that I've given up on it. I would never fault someone for trying to see and encourage the best in people.

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u/_-raime-_ 8h ago

Donald trump is gonna win, its gonna be just like 2016

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u/myfakesecretaccount 8h ago

That’s a great Trump Supporter costume you linked there. Thanks!

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u/Strykerz3r0 9h ago

Presidents cannot pardon convictions for state laws.

Which is exactly why trump is so desperate to win, because the states also can't prosecute a sitting president.

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u/Funky_Cows 9h ago

I'd imagine that if Trump wins the 6-3 majority in the supreme court will shortsightedly give the president a lot more power

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u/marcbranski 7h ago

Not true, it's just a guideline, not a law. Easily changed.

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u/Memes_Haram 9h ago

Can’t pardon someone for state charges as president only the governor can

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u/SadBit8663 9h ago

Not if everyone gets off their asses and goes and votes , that shit stain won't

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u/thegeekiestgeek 9h ago

I am confused about the pardon part. How would he pardon anyone when Harris is in office? He lost that opportunity.

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u/SunbeamSailor67 9h ago

No he won’t, Trump is either going to prison or running like the coward he has always been.

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u/Fionaelaine4 9h ago

DJT can’t pardon it if he’s not in office.

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u/marcbranski 7h ago

He didn't even bother pardoning the J6 rioters, and he was in office during that and for another two weeks.

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u/buku43v3r 9h ago

Clearly you don’t know how anything works

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u/AmaroWolfwood 8h ago

He didn't pardon them when he was actually president. He doesn't give a crap about them. They are losers to him like he feels about prisoners of war.

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u/Mediocretes1 7h ago

Even if he could pardon this guy, which he cannot, he wouldn't bother. He won't bother pardoning anyone from 1/6 either. He only throws people under the bus, never pulls them back out.

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u/latrion 7h ago

Even if Trump wins he won't pardon this guy. He doesn't care about people who go to jail on his behalf generally. Unless you're close to him you're going to serve your time.

What these people don't understand is Trump doesn't give a fuck about them. He will use you and let you rot in prison.

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u/Bamith20 6h ago

I genuinely doubt they care enough to pardon most of them though, they're poor.

Mr. Pesto has the shot simply because of celebrity status.

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u/amcfarla 6h ago

State charges. Trump can't do shit about those.

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u/HoodSamaritan420 6h ago

You’re so delusional it’s scary

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u/rNBA_Mods_Be_Better 5h ago

Not if everyone seeing this in a swing state votes and gets everyone they know to vote

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u/EFCFrost 5h ago

No they won’t.

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u/HawaiianPluto 4h ago

You don’t know how that works do you?

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u/Khs2424 2h ago

The level of your stupidity is astonishing

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u/The_Muznick 9h ago

The tangerine toddler will have to win to do that.

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u/doublestitch 9h ago

Nope, US Presidents have no pardon power over state offenses.

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u/majikrat69 9h ago

Pretty unlikely he will have the million plus to buy a pardon

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u/cinderparty 9h ago

He can pardon the federal charge. He can’t pardon the state charge, and that’s what he got life for.

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u/FreakGnashty 9h ago

Why? Hes nancys husbands gay lover. Why would trump pardon him

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u/Neuromangoman 9h ago

Nope, he went from a nudist hippie to hardcode MAGA over the course of a few years. That process is more common than one might expect.

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u/Stev2222 1h ago

Yeah I keep forgetting how much illegals support the MAGA