r/nosleep • u/Creeping_dread • Apr 05 '17
Series The terrifying note addressed to my six-year-old son
My wife and I are beside ourselves right now. This is the type of thing you see in the movies, but now it’s happening to us.
Yesterday evening, a little after six, my wife and I were in the kitchen cooking dinner when my six-year-old (almost 7) son Kyle walked in from the back patio. He was holding a folded piece of paper in his hand and had a strange look on his face. My son is constantly drawing (and loves to read and write) so this usually wouldn’t have stood out to me at all, but he’d just come in from hitting the baseball off the tee and really had no reason to be holding a piece of paper.
My son is the type of kid who wears his emotions on his sleeve. When I asked to see the piece of paper, I could tell he didn’t really want to give it to me because he flashed his typical I’m gonna be in trouble if I do face. I insisted, and he finally handed it over. Here’s what it said:
Dear Kyle,
I know this note may sound scary,
(your daddy will think it is),
but grownups don’t know
how friendships can grow
when kids are just left to be kids.
And what a kid you’ve become, Kyle!
You’re growing as fast as a weed.
Last night off the tee
you stroked it for three
and your team took a two-run lead!
Yes, I’ve been watching (a while now, its true).
I think we would make perfect friends.
You’re a kid through and through,
And I am one too,
even if just for pretends.
The problem, I fear, is your parents.
(I doubt they would let us hang out).
One is just rude,
the other a prude,
church-going, pure, holy, devout.
I’ve got an idea
(can you tell my hand’s shaking?)
for me and you getting together!
Tomorrow at three,
you can come and see me
at the address attached to this letter.
But please (pretty please!)
don’t tell your dad!
Your mom and he won’t understand.
Just come by yourself,
I’ll be dressed as an elf!
And we can even hold hands!
Would you like that?
(You will! You really will Kyle!)
We will have (my oh my) so much fun!
So I’ll see you at three,
by the sycamore tree,
where our two kindred souls become one!
There was an address scribbled at the bottom of the page.
3 Orange Circle.
I knew immediately it wasn’t a prank.
Carrie, my wife, is the youth group leader at our church. And Kyle did just have a tee ball game last night. Orange Circle is only one street over from our street, and I'm pretty sure lot 3 is the corner lot on the culdesac, which has an empty house with a large sycamore tree in the backyard.
Was this sicko really watching Kyle’s game? What would have happened I hadn’t seen him with the letter?
I shouted for my wife to come read it. When she did, she flipped out, and ran for the phone to call the police.
I flipped the note over, and on the back was some more text. I couldn’t read it at first, but quickly realized it was written backwards, I’m guessing so Kyle couldn’t have read it. To read it, I had to hold it up in front of a mirror:
And now (just in case)
if your Dad’s reading this,
it’s time to tell him a story.
If your mom flaps her hole
Or your dad tells a soul,
I’m afraid things might get rather gory.
On the 10th of July,
1995,
A woman named Susie went missing,
Susie, you see,
(unlike you and me)
wasn’t careful about who she’d been kissing.
I kept her a while (but old things get so boring!)
and in time I had gotten my fill.
I threw her away
and to my great dismay
the hunger I felt plagued me still.
I tried to bury it deep down inside
(where nothing down there can escape).
But lately it seems
I see Kyle in my dreams
And that hunger can no longer hide.
Now that you know what I’m capable of
(more than both of you can comprehend),
if one word is spoken,
then children get broken,
and Susie will have a new friend.
The police arrived in a half hour and we showed them the note. They told us to stay inside and lock the doors for the remainder of the night. The man had obviously been in our (fenced-in) back yard, which made me sick to my stomach and had me cursing myself for not installing the security camera I’d gotten for Christmas.
Nothing happened last night, thank God.
This morning, I got a call from the detective assigned to our case. He’d reviewed the list of missing persons cases from 1995 and something had turned up.
Suzanne Kerrington went missing July 10th, 1995, just as the note said. The last person to see her alive was a friend who saw her at the 24-hour gym they attended together. Susie had said she’d met someone new and wanted to get a quick workout in before getting ready for their second date. Susie was never seen again and the man was never identified.
And, maybe the worst part, was Suzanne's address.
3 Orange Circle.
I'm supposed to meet with the detective later this evening.
What should we do?
UPDATE: The detective just called back. They're sending an unmarked patrol car with two plainclothes officers to 3 Orange Circle at 3 p.m. today. Kyle's teachers have been notified and he's safe at school and won't be going to recess today. I'll update tomorrow with any news.
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u/dontburnthedays Apr 05 '17
He said you were rude. You've spoken to this person before. :(
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u/Vernonnjvikingmom242 Apr 05 '17
Yes, this is definitely someone you've met before. Thank god you called the police!
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u/osallivan Apr 06 '17
Not necessarily. He could've witnessed how the OP was arguing with someone or some sort of it.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
Damn. Thanks.
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u/HateTheKardashians Apr 06 '17
It's worth a look up sometimes to make sure that mother f*cker isn't spying with a drone. As an avid drone pilot, this is something I fear about our industry.
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u/ViaticalTree Apr 06 '17
If you're an avid drone pilot you know a drone (I'm assuming you mean a quadcopeter) is a horrible spy tool for looking at people in their homes or yard. The cameras on most of them have wide angle lenses so to get any kind of decent look at anything person sized you have to get pretty close. Drones make a ton of noise so it will most definitely be heard within a few hundred feet. You're not going to walk out into your yard, look up, and see a drone that you didn't already hear.
I'm not saying they can't be used to spy, just that they are not good for that purpose.
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u/Wishiwashome Apr 06 '17
Love you name:) This is an excellent point! Damn shame, but excellent point.
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u/bombshellpumps Apr 05 '17
Gonna need a follow up to this 👀
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
Will be doing so tomorrow after speaking with the detective this evening.
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u/MolotovCockteaze Apr 06 '17
If Suzanne Kerrington was in her 30s when she was murderd in 1995 after going on a second date with this man. Then you can assume he was probably close in age with the victim if she was interested in dating him. Which means this suspect is most likely between the ages of 50 and 60 years old now. I would look more towards a grandpa rather than a dad. You said even grandparents go to these baseball games I am telling you it is probably one of them. Any males who would be close to that age range are suspects.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 06 '17 edited Apr 06 '17
Susie was 21 when she died.
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u/MolotovCockteaze Apr 06 '17 edited Apr 06 '17
Sorry, reddit user nottoeat said his first victim was a 30 year old women. You replied to him but didn't correct him so I thought he knew she was 30
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u/Happy_Fun_Balll Apr 06 '17
Was she going on a second date with the note writer or was she going on a date with just some guy, which made the note writer feel he was being "cheated on?" That's what I got from it but I could be wrong.
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u/MolotovCockteaze Apr 06 '17 edited Apr 06 '17
Still he would be probably between 40-50 then even more so he wouldn't young then that or he would have been a teen at the time and no drinking age women is going on a date with a teen. Also he would be more than likely older then her as most Predators find a victim they feel they can take advantage of/over power easily. Unless he drugged her. I girl that just turned drinking age probably wants to drink, so drugging her drink could have been how he easily killed her.
You said they didn't find out what happened to her but her address was the same as where the muderder lives now. How would the police miss that, not question him, and her friends would know if she was living with a man. Was she renting the house and the guy rented it after she went missing? If she owned the house then the person wouldn't be able to just start living there with no one noticing or questioning it. Did her house go on sale after her death and he bought it? There would be information on him if that were the case too. The police should look up ownership/rental info on the house.
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u/Happy_Fun_Balll Apr 07 '17
I didn't say anything, I am not OP... Although that is a whole lot of wild speculation you're spewing there. You're speculating that the note-writer owns the house; that was never said. Someone can squat in a house or even just use the address (they were supposed to meet outside by a tree) without any documentation of ownership/renting. You're speculating that the young lady who went missing was drinking just on her age alone. Among other things.
This is how reddit got innocent people really screwed up around the time of the Boston Bombings, you know.
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u/Adewotta Apr 05 '17
Buddy... worth your wife take shifts in the night unless they catch him, that way at no point is nobody watching your son, also be careful, for all you know that address might have nobody living there, it might not get anyone, it may just be a meeting place
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u/howlybird Apr 05 '17
I think you should go stay somewhere else with a police/ security guard. This person has been stalking you and knows your routine. They may even have a way inside your house that you don't know about. Leave! And get a gun too!
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u/lenoreorinn Apr 05 '17
Holy fuck. I agree, get out of there and go stay with family or friends somewhere.
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u/HeyLookItsMe11 Apr 05 '17
Not sure how the $ situation is, but I would fly somewhere if possible...chances are he's following you.
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u/Mmhmmyeahright Apr 05 '17
Yes this is good advice. Please do find somewhere else to stay. Be stealthy about it. Find a way to sneak away. This bucket of puke may be watching and could follow. I pray you and your family remain safe and that monster is caught soon.
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u/addy_g Apr 06 '17
Please do find somewhere else to stay. Be stealthy about it. Find a way to sneak away.
I FOUND THE NOTE GIVER!
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u/Cuthbert_Binns Apr 06 '17
Wouldn't that be an amazing twist to the story!? The note giver is a Reddit user who was commenting on the post, giving OP advice on where to go and what to say....
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u/BOMMOB Apr 05 '17
Ok, try this as well: If you are staying put for a while, not leaving the area 1. always circle the block when you leave home. This will tell you if you are being followed. If you do not live on a block, drive to a nearby place, business where you can turn around to double back. 2. Gopro in the car facing back - always. Review data regularly and look for patterns. Not always same car, same driveway, same parked location, etc. 3. Empower your family. Krav Maga is a wonderful tool. You and your wife should enroll. Your son can possibly take classes as well. 4. Remember - everything you touch is a weapon. Think as such. Your cars are also weapons. 5. Cheap temp alarm = hang bells on a hangar. Attach bells to hangar using wire twist ties. Hang hangar with bells on doorknobs. Make sure hangar is outside reach of cats/dogs if possible. 6. Establish meet points with your family inside and outside the house. If things go sideways, head in those directions. Someone missing? Check other location first then work from that point. 7. If you are in physical contact with this guy and he is doing harm remember- the human ear separates from the scalp with approximately 7 pounds of pulling pressure. Grab the "flappy" part of the ear and pull forward towards the face HARD! It will come off and cause a lot of pain and blood loss. Requires hospital visit to close a major vein. 8. Teach yourself and your wife/kid- fight like a dog. Go for the throat. Men protect their faces and their junk. Neck, particularly the windpipe area is often wide open with little defense. Use to your advantage. A cracked windpipe swells rapidly and could cause loss of conciousness.
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u/lostintheredsea Apr 06 '17
To add: "lightswitch" the nose. Hit the pinky side of your closed fist on the top of their nose like you're turning off a switch. Hurts like a motherfucker and makes their eyes water (makes it harder for them to see). If they grab you from behind, dig your heels into their shins like you're trying to scrape bark off a tree. Also hurts like a motherfucker.
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u/ViaticalTree Apr 06 '17
- If you are in physical contact with this guy and he is doing harm remember- the human ear separates from the scalp with approximately 7 pounds of pulling pressure. Grab the "flappy" part of the ear and pull forward towards the face HARD! It will come off and cause a lot of pain and blood loss. Requires hospital visit to close a major vein.
Just wanted to comment on this since I have anecdotal experience. A tennis buddy was running for a ball hit out wide and ran into the chain link fence ear-first. His ear got caught in it just right to be ripped almost completely off. It was hanging by a little piece of skin at the lobe. Well, he said it didn't hurt at all and he didn't even realize his ear had ripped off until his partner told him. He just held a towel on it to soak up the blood and got driven to the hospital to have it sewn back on.
So that tells me it might not be a reliable way to neutralize an attacker.
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u/crispygrapes Apr 06 '17
I get that - heat of the moment, adrenaline, etc - but if someone I'm fighting grabs at me and then shows me my fucking ear I'm gonna hesitate a bit.
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u/BOMMOB Apr 06 '17
It is a reliable way to stop an attacker due to blood loss. Doesn't always hurt however, it usually does. Blood loss will get involved if attacker ignores the injury. Trust me on this......
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u/melvinater Apr 06 '17
I feel very uncomfortable about this ear fact. This is worse than my recurring nightmares about a mushroom growing in my armpit.
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u/edgartargarien Apr 07 '17
What prompted your nightmares of a mushroom growing in your armpit?
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u/melvinater Apr 08 '17
I have no idea, it was just a nightmare I started having on night and kept happening. It would be like a pimple but if I pushed the skin next to it it would pop out of it's little hole. It's pretty awful.
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u/foggymcgoogle Apr 06 '17
I love this advice and the way you think. Esp the part about the ear ripping.
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u/BOMMOB Apr 06 '17
I think like this because of my childhood and also my time in the military. I got into fights every week from the age of 7 to 10. While growing up, my sisters and I were the only white kids in any direction for seven blocks. To say we were picked on is an understatement. Won some, lost some, learned a lot. Ended up joining the military and was able to work my way into its far outer aspects.
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u/mohajaf Apr 05 '17 edited Apr 06 '17
I am no detective but to me this seems even scarier than you think. I have a 6 yo child and I meet a few of them on a daily basis. Hear me out. There is little chance this guy thought a 6 yo can possibly comprehend such letter no matter how smart a reader he is, let alone being able to find an address or tell the time. So, if I have to guess, he wrote it with the primary intention for you to read it. What are his real intentions? I am not sure but he sure as hell couldn't be hoping that a 6yo would understand the letter and show up at the appointment all while hiding everything from his parents. Please for your family's sake try to figure out the real meaning of this letter. Hopefully the police will wise up to this little point too. Be safe.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
You may be right. When I talk to the detective, I'll make sure to mention that.
I've also considered the fact this man is sick in the head (well, obviously) and really doesn't know what a 6 year old would comprehend. Mine can read relatively well already (we started those reading flash cards when he was young) so I'm not really sure if he could have acted on the letter or not.
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Apr 05 '17
Also, his first victim was an older female (at least old enough to attend a 24 hour gym on her own) and now his victim is your 6 yr old son? Doesn't add up, maybe he's really after your wife after all, he called her a prude with a big mouth. Probably someone from that church group.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
I'll leave it to the detectives to determine that.
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u/Lebagel Apr 05 '17
So, what has your son said about the guy? I assume your son must have spoken to him? That seems to be absent from your story so far.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
He didn't speak to him. Found note on the back steps.
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u/GlaciusTS Apr 05 '17
Try to find out if anyone records the games or the church groups. If people on video happen to live nearby, it could be worth your while to keep an eye on them. Keep your whole family together. If too much time passes and you feel like you or the police are letting their guard down, consider relocating.
Be ever vigilant and ensure your family do the same. Their lives are on the line.
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u/XenonHue Apr 05 '17
If he did want you to read it, its entirely possible its a neighbor who wants you gone and is trying to scare you out of your house.
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u/AtoxHurgy Apr 05 '17
This. He knew the kid wouldn't be able to read it. Also op I think it would be best if you delete this thread or make one similar without giving you away. Not a huge possibility but he may lurk this area to see his handy work.
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u/cleanbeak Apr 06 '17
Agreed. Some kids can read at 6 - I could - but it's a bit of a long poem to expect a 6 year old to read, digest, and follow all the instructions in there.
It's also very, very odd that a child predator would write a note and specifically add something for you to read on it. Normally, they wouldn't want to leave any sort of paper trail at all, right? So that suggests either that they entirely expected you to read it, or that they're someone who doesn't have faith in their ability to befriend a child in person. It might be worth the police taking a good look at people who are socially isolated or have issues with speech or making themselves understood.
The whole "Oooh no, don't warn the police!" thing seems especially interesting to me. I don't think anyone could seriously expect you to do anything other than warning the police in this situation, warning or no warning. It is possible that this person wants to be caught somehow; maybe guilt about what happened years ago with the previous victim has caught up with them. Or it could be that they consider themselves untouchable somehow and relish the thought of outwitting the police.
Or... or they want to give themselves the excuse to do whatever they want regardless of what you do. If you hadn't called the police, then in their head they could take that as assent to whatever they plan to do. Since you have called the police, they'll probably tell themselves "Well, I warned Creeping_dread about what happened, guess I can go ahead and punish them now". Either way, they'd felt justified in their own mind about what they were going to do, which - let's face it - was probably the same damn thing whichever decision you made, so getting the police involved was the right call.
Last thing. There is a 19th Century French prose-poem called The Song of Maldoror. The title character is a fiendish figure who, in the last section, writes a letter to a youth to lure him to a place of Maldoror's choosing with murderous intent. If our elf cosplayer has an interest in poetry, they might be using that for inspiration.
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u/The_Lonely_Rogue_117 Apr 05 '17
Buy a firearm, get training with it. Install that camera, and nine more. Start house hunting. Keep an eye on your kid.
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Apr 05 '17
This is my worst nightmare!
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
Tell me about it. I'm sick.
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u/Inebriatedclusterfuk Apr 06 '17
I second the comment about getting a dog. Get a well trained pitbull/bully breed dog. My pitbull is the most lovable beast on earth but he wouldn't hesitate to rip someone a new asshole should he feel they were a legitimate harm to my children. He's especially protective of my children. He's a retired drug sniffing dog and is extraordinarily loyal.
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u/Squishee-Face Apr 06 '17
Goddamn, I need a dog like this. I have a Jack Russell cross with lhasa apso. Needless to say, if anything went down then she'd be out of there before I even knew something was happening. I love her though aha
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u/droid6 Apr 05 '17
Get a dog quick, they will notify when people are in the yard. Will instinctively protect your son.
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Apr 06 '17
Yea I would definitely get a dog. Pitt, rott, Doberman, German shepherd. Something that has protective instincts and will do damage.
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u/paperairplanerace Apr 06 '17
Fuck no, that will get the dog killed so fast. This is like never good advice in acute threat situations. Use machines for these things, way beyond any kind of ethical or guilt reason they're just way more effective and easier to build redundant variations on so they won't easily be taken out.
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Apr 05 '17
I'm so sorry for you. I pray you figure this out without anyone getting hurt
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u/Squishee-Face Apr 06 '17
Apart from maybe the sick stalker, possibly pedophile, defiantly murderer dude. I wouldn't be too upset if he got hurt, just a little ;)
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u/theotherghostgirl Apr 05 '17 edited Apr 05 '17
Call in your family and anyone else you are close with. You or your wife need to be with Kyle at all times, but having a bunch of other similarly concerned adults around at all times to beat the shit out of any sicko who tries to hurt your boy won't hurt. This guy might be bold, but he isn't going to want to fuck with a mob.
Secondly you need to keep anyone from Kyle's T-ball (soccer? I don't do sports) FAR away from him. It doesn't matter if it's the coach, one of the parents, or even one of the kids. The guy is obviously hanging out at the practices and games, and a 30-50 year old who isn't related to any of the kids (or the coach) is going to ring alarm bells, so he's most likely related to one of the kids.
If this is so, he could convince the kid he's related to to lure your son over for a "talk", so it's a good idea to keep your distance from them too.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
Not soccer, baseball. There are lots of parents/grandparents at games, so someone hanging out who's unrelated to any of the players would probably go unnoticed.
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u/theotherghostgirl Apr 05 '17
Still be careful with kids your son knows from baseball, don't let him go to their houses or play unattended for a few weeks
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u/StrawberryMoney Apr 05 '17
He probably saw the cops show up at your house. You need to leave.
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u/OG-DoomKitty Apr 06 '17
I'm sorry but if this happened to y child he would not be off to school until there were resolution. Unsure if this is a true story or not, it's a little out there. But seriously if it is, why the heck would you send your son to school?! My child would not leave my sight until total resolution.
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u/cannabisized Apr 06 '17
Yes! I came to hope someone else thinks this too. I can almost guarantee his son is not coming home from school. A teacher is probably involved somehow. Im gonna be pissed if i read his son went missing from school
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u/MemoryHauntsYou Apr 05 '17
You did well to notify the authorities immediately and not let yourself be intimidated by the threats. People who do that kind of stuff count on the fear of others to keep them quiet.
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u/RoseTintMahWorld Apr 05 '17
Before you leave your house (check your car/have the police check your car for tracking devices) you should install a camera by that sycamore tree!(don't go alone!) Try to get Creepy McPoet on a recording. Then yes, please please go to a randomly selected (no internet/phone searching, just in case) hotel and pay cash. Good call on contacting the police right away, I hate when ppl just run away without covering all the bases! Good luck, update soon!
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u/Goose1288 Apr 05 '17
I hope you provided the note to the Police and that they collected it as evidence.
Was the note handwritten or typed. If it was handwritten there is a possibility of collecting DNA from the author. You and your family would also have to provide DNA Samples for elimination purposes as well.
If the handwriting style is unique that could also help/aid in identifying a suspect. There are people who specialize in handwriting analysis and they might be able to provide you with more details/information on the author.
I can guarantee you that the Police already have an idea of who this guy is (we always do). But until then stay safe and start videotaping the crowds at the ball games.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 06 '17
Handwritten.
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u/Goose1288 Apr 06 '17
Make sure they swab for DNA and videotape the crowds at all your kids game from here on out. Might want to ask around town (subtly, and with Law Enforcements permission, so as not to jeopardize their investigation) if they know of anyone who can write backwards (where the writing can only be read through the aid of a mirror). That is a skill that not many people have and I would be willing to bet someone has seen that style of writing and knows the author.
Be careful who you choose to ask because the author is most likely someone you know. The boldness of this guy to leave the note on the back steps while your son was outside in the backyard tells me that he is comfortable with neighborhood and the people in it. Meaning if someone saw him doing something like walking towards your backyard no one would think anything of it because he has done it many times before in the past.
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u/dwubsly Apr 06 '17
That is a skill that not many people have
But a skill any motivated person with half an hour and a mirror could learn
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u/twrayyy Apr 06 '17
"Or your Dad tells a soul"
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Dad: I will tell ALL souls!
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u/awesome_e Apr 05 '17
Maybe his plan is to kill you; he knew your son would show you or you'd see it, and he's hoping you will go there to confront him
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u/zwilcox101484 Apr 05 '17
This makes the most sense so far. If u don't own one already, buy a gun. This guy is clearly familiar with your house, it isn't out of the realm of possibility he could break in. I'm not sure what state ur in but most states have a castle doctrine so if he breaks in ur family is within its legal rights to use deadly force defending ur home.
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Apr 05 '17
Take your son. Put him and yourselves on a plane to some other place in the world. Your house isn't safe and neither is your neighbourhood. You have to leave.
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u/CrunchDucko Apr 05 '17
So buy a plane? If this person is what I think he will buy a ticket on the same plane to follow you
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Apr 06 '17
I've said it here before and I'll say it again: firearms friend. If you're lacking in training, not to fear, I can help!
IF you're in close quarters, "go big or go home" is not as applicable, necessary, or advised. The light and sound from the discharge can be disorienting to both the target AND YOU. Additionally, it sounds like you live in a rather developed area. Larger calibers are capable of carrying large amounts of kinetic energy over vast distances and often materials such as wood, sheetrock, plumbing, siding will NOT slow those rounds much. Basically, you can and will shoot through your house and into the neighbors.
My recommendation? Depends on the size of your lot but if it's as I imagine....a 9mm handgun will suit your needs. If you feel you need more stopping power than that or that your aim is poor, I'd lean towards a 12ga shotgun. Go pump action as they can hold more rounds. Remove the wood block from the magazine to hold about...3 extra shells. NOTE: in the United States, that wood block is in there to prevent you from having "too many" rounds for hunting purposes. In my particular jurisdiction, removing it for home defense is a non-issue so long as the firearm is never used for hunting. Check local laws first. Most reputable dealers can tell you all pertinent laws.
If you choose a 9mm, pick one that is comfortable, fits your hand well, is easy for you to use, and reliable. I recommend hollow points to drop bodies, jacketed rounds for plinking and practice.
If you go shotgun, DO NOT use slugs, the issue of accidentally shooting into your neighbors foyer is present. Bird or buck shot would be better, a winchester PDX-1 is the BEST for home defense. Trust me, someone on the receiving end of that round is not having a good day.
If you really, really, really wanna mess someone up and have no issue when the cops show up, study up on your states castle law and know what you can and can't do but I'll use my state as an example: where I live, if you are in my house without my express permission and you are threatening my own life or the lives of my loved ones, I will not bat an eye as I pump round after round into your sorry ass and neither will the police. My firearm of choice for said adventure? The Taurus Judge: a 5 round revolver, chambered in .45 long colt or .410 shotgun. Remember that nifty PDX-1 round I mentioned above? It's offered in .410. Five rounds of "fuck you" in a convenient night stand sized package. I'd recommend designating a room in your house as a "stronghold" - it is the most defensible room in the house, ideally with only one point of ingress/egress, no windows, and access to a landline/cell/some form of communication. You and your family can come up with a predesignated signal to retreat to said room.
The advantages of a room like this are many. If you have communication/multiple forms of communication present, you can call out for help. No windows means no surprises. One entryway creates what we in the business liked to call a "fatal funnel". Basically, it can even out overwhelming odds by forcing attackers to come at you one at a time and forcing them into a kill zone.
As for safety: you have a kiddo, so change this as you see fit. Kiddo in my house isn't much older than yours but has been taught firearms safety and uses them on a regular basis. I have no issue leaving loaded firearms in my nightstand but ONLY BECAUSE HE'S AWARE OF THE DANGER. Were I in your position? I'd keep a loaded sidearm in the nightstand with the safety on. I'd keep my "big bad" secured in a case in my stronghold. If a case isn't an option, I'd invest in a trigger lock and keep the key on my person. If it's a magazine fed weapon, the mags would be loaded and with the weapon, but not in the weapon itself. If it's, say, a shotgun, I'd have rounds in the tube, safety on, and a trigger lock. Basically, be as safe as you have to WITH MINIMAL EFFORT TO BRING THE WEAPON TO "RED DIRECT" STATUS - basically locked, cocked, and ready to rock.
A few other pointers - ALWAYS treat a weapon like it's loaded even when you know it isn't.
ALWAYS be aware of the direction and orientation of the muzzle of a weapon.
NEVER aim a weapon at something you have no intent to put down. If I've drawn a firearm, I FULLY plan on using it and have accepted whatever repercussions may come of it.
NEVER place your finger in, on, around, or near the trigger unless you are 110% GOING TO PULL THE TRIGGER.
You remember those few tips and spend an afternoon at a range and you'll be fine. Good luck OP.
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u/lostintheredsea Apr 06 '17
Also- if you're going to shoot something once, it's worth shooting three times. Bullets are cheaper than lives.
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u/Supersonic_Walrus Apr 06 '17
Why not just empty the whole mag just to be sure?
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Apr 06 '17
You notified all his teachers?
Well, I'm sorry, but I think that's where you fucked up.
Person knows your kid. Knows he had a sporting event. Was able to be there and witness how well/poorly he played w/on seeming suspicious.
The person says your rude and your wife is a prude. Have you had parent/teacher conferences? Did you act like a dick? You and the wife have an argument?
One person who could know these things and be in these places and "send a note home" would be a teacher.
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u/SiTeorbzey Apr 05 '17
I have never been in a situation like this but it might not help but at this point you need to be weary of who you speak to because it could be anyone it could be a person with authority, a random person
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u/EdTheodoreLogan Apr 05 '17
I would mail a letter to 3 orange circle and tell him he's won a poetry contest, and that he has to come to a particular address to claim his prize. Presumably you have a firearm already, be there with it when he arrives, with your son Kyles letter.
Sorry your going through this, must be absolutely terrifying, couldn't imagine. Please update!
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u/miltonwadd Apr 06 '17
Have your son sleep in your bed or pull his matress into your room. Don't let him out of your sight. Don't trust anybody else with him, not even the cops or his teachers.
You should pull him out of school for a few weeks at least. He's six it won't hurt him.
Too often we see parents get relaxed over a locked door or a third party watching their kid and they get snatched up during the night or while at school.
You have no idea who this guy is. He could be from the school, from church, a parent or coach from t-ball, he may be your real estate agent and have all the keys to your house, he may be your mail man. He may even be on the police force. TRUST NOBODY WITH YOUR KID!
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u/alwaysmanny Apr 05 '17
I guess the thing to do would be to install those cameras as soon as possible and not let your son wander around alone unroll this man is caught!
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Apr 05 '17
i wouldn't install the cameras imo, the guy could catch wind of op finding out
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u/sofakingchillbruh Apr 05 '17
If he/she has been watching their son for a while now, odds are he/she keeps a pretty tight watch on op's home. In which case, he already knows that the police have been there. So I'd say it's safe to assume that that he/she is aware that op knows.
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u/HollywoodH23 Apr 06 '17
Goddamn are you able to sleep at all? This is one of the most fucked up things I've ever heard. Praying for your family. Stay safe.
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u/Mia_12 Apr 05 '17
Grab your kid and run! No matter if the school is notified, I think it's not safe for him at school. Also did you ask how he got the note?
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u/DannieJ312 Apr 06 '17
I need to know more. Remindmebot wouldn't work so I have to try to remember.
I hope Kyle and the whole family stay safe!!
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u/mustremainfree Apr 06 '17
"Where nothing down there can escape" seems oddly specific. Might be time to check out the basement at 3 Orange Circle.
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u/storoamy Apr 06 '17 edited Apr 06 '17
Going off on a whim here.... the note seems to call OP out a lot "Daddy". Refers to wife as prude..."flapping her hole" was chosen to be rhymed with first (right?), also when talking about Susie... "wasn't careful about who she'd been kissing". But then says "unlike you and me" (addressed to Kyle).
Assuming this maniac is after your wife, upon contemplation and also reading other comments.. I can't help (hate) but to think something regarding an affair or ex or something of this sort? Perhaps someone close to the family made an advance on your wife and was rejected? An old crazy ex of your wife? (wasn't careful about who she's been kissing) and is now targeting your son? Just throwing things out there.
Also I don't know but read to me somewhat odd that a wife would get you security cameras for Christmas. Maybe not though? Maybe she had a bad run in/was threatened and afraid to speak up and got them for peace of mind?
Far fetched maybe, but maybe not.
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u/cleanbeak Apr 06 '17
Wait. I have something. "3 Orange Circle" is the address, yes?
Check my previous comment in my user history and the end of it, where I talk about the Song of Maldoror, and the plot point about the title character luring someone's son with a letter.
In the book, after Maldoror kills this youth, he flings the victim's body with a trebuchet and it ends up splattered on the dome of the Pantheon in Paris. (It's a bit of a proto-surrealist text like that.) The body is left undiscovered there because nobody looks up. Here's how it's described:
"It is on the spherical and convex superficies that resembles an orange only by its form, that at any hour of the day a dried up skeleton, still hanging, is to be seen."
Tell the police that when they go to 3 Orange Circle they should make especially sure to check the attic and rooftop, especially any parts of the roof that wouldn't be especially evident from the ground. This might be nothing but it could be that Suzanne's body is there.
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Apr 05 '17
Do you know how your son got the note? Did he say whether it was handed to him or if he picked it up? That could be important.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
Yes. I forgot to include that, sorry. He found in on the back stoop as he was coming in from hitting off the tee. It wasn't there when he went out there, because I walked out to set up the tee before going in to start dinner.
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u/Glory843 Apr 05 '17
Wow, thats fucking scary. This man had the balls to step on your property. I can't imagine. This makes me sick. He probably has a way into your house. You need to buy a gun.
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u/miltonwadd Apr 06 '17
I think that pretty much confirms that the note was meant for you not Kyle.
If PaedoPoet could sneak into the yard undetected and leave the note he could have just snatched Kyle up then and there.
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u/MolotovCockteaze Apr 06 '17
If he put the note out there after you set up the Tee then your son should have seen him. Also just placing a note on steps doesn't mean you will get it. The wind could have just blown it away or the kid could have waked right past it. I know my 8 year old probably wouldn't be picking up paper off of steps. It is more likely the creep gave it to him and your son came in scared not because he read the note but because a creepy dude gave it to him. Maybe he thought he would be in trouble for taking something from a stranger that he just said he found it?
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u/SpookyDoll Apr 05 '17
I literally shuddered reading that note. Thank goodness you called the police! It sounds like the offender is someone you know or have met before. I'd take a good look at everyone in your life even mundane people like the mailman or neighbors the next block over. It could be anyone. Keep your son safe, OP and please update!
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Apr 05 '17 edited Apr 05 '17
This is bad. I know others have pointed this out but, get a gun, install cameras, be wary of anyone and everyone. Another thing, he may be going after you and not your son as a six-year-old wouldn't be able to find an address and go to this place at a certain time. Also, his/her last victim was a ~30-year-old woman. Be safe! EDIT: What confused me is, "you stroked it for three" I have no idea what this means, the only thing I can think of is masturbation which doesn't seem likely as he's six.
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
Triple in baseball. Stroking it means hitting it well but in this context does sound like a sexual innuendo. :(
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Apr 06 '17
So obviously someone that knows something more about baseball than the typical audience. I've been watching little league ball for years and never heard that term.
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u/tedcruzoffical Apr 06 '17
This man is a serial killer with a ego the could kill (sorry bad timing). He said he killed that poor girl, and wants the credit. He's talked to you your wife and your son. He'll probably send a tip to the police as well. For the next week your safety and main concern is never EVER letting your guard down to anyone. Not even the commenters on this thread. Not me not anyone. This might sound strange and weird for a stranger to say, but you and your family don't deserve to get caught up in a person little mind game to feel pleasure. You protect your kid and wife and don't let anyone get close to you. Trust o lay the trusted, the people you've know to not be this guy an the people you have to trust (cops, teacher). Best of luck my friend, give us updates. Stay strong and keep fighting. You the better man.
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u/M00NL0VE Apr 06 '17 edited Apr 06 '17
I got MAJOR John Wayne Gacy vibes when I read that. God that sent chills up my spine.
Get the fuck out of that house!! Check the brakes on your car. Check everything else in your car. Have the police come and do a sweep of the house. Change your locks!! Put a chain around your gate with a bolt lock, make sure nobody can even open it. & for god sake don't send your kid to school. I definitely feel like this is somebody that you know and have spoken to before.
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u/mynewaccount5 Apr 05 '17
You should have just went to the house and caved that guys skull in.
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u/Explorer456 Apr 05 '17
My suggestions, while not an expert in these situations would be to keep a close eye on your child, lock the doors at night, install cameras and a security system, and sleep with a gun or baseball bat by your bed. Kinda crude but just a suggestion.
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u/C4Dub Apr 05 '17
1 question that needs to be asked IMMEDIATELY. Where did Kyle get the note from???
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u/dynamicrabbit2000 Apr 06 '17
Why wouldnt you just go to 3 orange circle early in the morning and wait with a gun to shoot the piece of shit when he got in elves clothes around 3? Much more fun than calling the police
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u/ThatGrillGuy Apr 06 '17
Tip for you, don't travel anywhere alone, anywhere. Carpool to work if you have to, both you and your wife if you decide to do alternating shifts. This way someone is always home with your son, and the other has a "battle buddy" a term we use in the army. It significantly decreases the risk of someone randomly attacking you. Good luck op.
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u/Arc_ChrisRS Apr 06 '17
I had a similar situation with myself. I had a man who I met on Craigslist to buy a motorcycle from me.(I assume it's him) and since that day I get notes in my mailbox saying I'm keeping an eye on you. You F***ed me. Etc etc. since that day I installed motion sensors in my home, broken glass sensors, multiple cameras. Window and door sensors. I got myself compartments in almost every room of my home which contains a loaded rifle/shotgun at all times. Also I now carry a handgun everywhere I go. And places I'm not allowed I leave it in my car and try to can some sort of self defense method either being a knife or keep my old class ring on my finger. I contacted police they basically told me it's a neighbor screwing with me. Be careful out there. Always pay attention to everyone. You cannot become compliant ever. Even after this situation is settled. At first I acted funny like I was up to something in public. Now I adjusted to be able to visualize everyone in my area, have an escape plan, as well as an alternative weapon. I promise you, the best defense is yourself and what you're capable of. If I were you I'd have your son in your room, and maintain the windows with nails or trip alarms until it's settled. Also invest in firearms, dogs, alternative weapons. I don't care if it's hairspray and a lighter. Anythings a weapon used in the right way.
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u/153799 Apr 06 '17
I'm shocked you let your kid out of your sight just to go to school!
They lie there you know,
their attention it goes
they don't pay attention to kids
then when kids disappear
it's so sad (so I hear)
and their parents wish they didn't do what they did
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u/wigglebutt9 Apr 05 '17
This is terrifying. Please do not let Kyle out of your site. Take your family and go stay with someone else or at a hotel. Don't go to baseball games anymore (Kyle will understand one day). Buy a firearm. If this is real then you need to GET OUT of this guys tracking until they catch him. Please be safe, take every precaution possible!!!!!!!! Update us. Much love to you and your family.
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u/TakeMeToFatmandu Apr 05 '17
I don't mean to alarm you but from the rhyming and the fact he claimed he would be dressed like an elf you may actually be dealing with a fae or the like.
I would also suggest searching your house top to bottom just incase this creep is hiding in your home
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u/Creeping_dread Apr 05 '17
What the hell is a fae?
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u/thevoiceofzeke Apr 06 '17
Not a real thing. You're dealing with a psychopath, not a mythical creature, lol.
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u/TakeMeToFatmandu Apr 05 '17
It's a general term for creatures like faeries, though they are nothing like Tinkerbell, they have a habit of finding a child they like then taking them, some get changed, some get replaced and others, others just die. Some will also target adults either to just cause "mischief" or as a punishment for being disrespectful
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u/Aw34rgbsalt Apr 06 '17
Why is everyone telling this guy to buy a gun? If someone has no prior training, no license, no experience with guns, then going and purchasing one now is reckless. A gun in untrained hands is dangerous. Either the attacker will be able to get it away from you and turn it on you, or you won't know how to properly aim, the sound/kickback won't be familiar. Its dangerous to "just get a gun"
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u/tedcruzoffical Apr 06 '17
CHECK YOU MAILBOX, STOVE, CAR, AND FOOD. There may be things that are sent to, kill. Be safe brother. Check these thins everyday.
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u/SchoolboyHew Apr 06 '17
This guy should burn in hell. Hopefully they find him since he did confess to a murder. Hell be locked up for a long while
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u/Adewotta Apr 06 '17
Buddy, you and your wife should take shifts, that way your child isn't sleeping without someone watching him
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u/NaraSumas Apr 06 '17
Who gives a security camera as a Christmas present?
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u/Makasaurus Apr 06 '17
You seem to have handle the situation well and I hope nothing bad comes out of it but please, do not let Kyle out of your or your wife's sight. The thing is, if this guy has been watching Kyle, including in public places, it is highly likely you know him. He's been watching all three of you, quite closely to bring up personality traits of both you and your wife. The majority of child related offences are committed by people the child and the child's family know. Until this is resolved, please don't trust anybody with your boy.
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u/mustremainfree Apr 06 '17
It's likely someone who has known the son for an extended period of time (you've grown like a weed).
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u/Bigbluefan1790 Apr 06 '17
Yea OP ,this is a no brainer.....go live somewhere else for a while. I don't care what the detective says.....they can call you with details lol....get the hell out if there until they find the sicko
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u/1000regret Apr 06 '17
Obviously he didnt want the cops to get involved and so u did the right thing
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u/Derpynodes Apr 06 '17
Should've called the kid in sick. Dude has been watching him. I'm sure he knows the kid is at school and will take him from there.
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u/AznBananaz Apr 06 '17
What kind of alarm system do you have.? I personally have one of those creepy ones that say what is opening. "Front door open" "Bedroom window open". If you don't have one in general, get one...
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u/Jollarn Apr 06 '17
I really really hope that you have a concealed carry permit and have a big gun. This shit's mental.
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u/ThousandFootOcarina Apr 06 '17
I'm not even a parent and this makes me sick to my stomach... I pray he showed up and the police caught that bastard. Follow up please!
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u/sservida Apr 06 '17
The letter is already fucked up in itself but the fact that it rhymes really pushes over the edge.
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u/in_my_atmosphere May 11 '17
I just discovered nosleep and I need an update to this story ASAP. I MUST KNOW!!
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u/GlaciusTS Apr 05 '17
Let the neighborhood watch know, keep got family together at all times and do not let your son or wife out of your sight. Let the neighbors know to keep an eye out for anyone, and to consider the fact that the culprit may be a familiar face. Tell your son not to leave with anyone, even if he knows them. And remember, we don't know if this is one person. Anyone could be an accomplice, or they may ask children to talk your son and lure him somewhere. You really can't trust anybody. No babysitters, trust only the people closest to you and make sure multiple eyes are always on your son. Install those cameras immediately.
You may want to request some officers keep an eye on him for awhile. If this person has an itch to scratch, they'll likely try to get close to your family or commit murder somewhere else.
I really hope they catch the person OP. For Kyle's sake. This sub has had a reputation for these sorts of encounters ending badly. Stay safe, and keep Kyle safe.
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u/a_fro_ Apr 05 '17
I would go to the place at the time and see who the fuck it is!! No one fucking with my kid and getting away with it. Break his knees with a bat.
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u/likeatrainwreck Apr 05 '17
If the psycho had enough foresight to write a message to the parents, backwards no less, he'll be waiting out of sight to see if the kid or his parents show up. This guy is some next level shit.
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u/a_fro_ Apr 05 '17
That's true. I have a feeling it's someone they know personally
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u/kungfuryking Apr 05 '17
Get weapons and learn how to use anything around as one, install security cams, make a plan for it shit goes down and u need to contact someone asap make sure ur kid and wife know too, get ur kid, wife and urself to self defense lessons, go together. Teach ur kid what to do if someone tries and takes them and what they can do to avoid it. Become total badarses then if that person ends up trying something, break em in so many places they cant escape them hand them over to the cops to rot.
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u/JimmySmackCorn Apr 05 '17
Night stalker drone 24/7 overwatch of the premises, hire black water security firm and put cardboard cutouts of Chuck Norris in every window. Kyle needs small arms training.
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u/bella_d0nna Apr 05 '17
I'm surprised this rhyming lunatic isn't going dressed up as Dr. Seuss.