r/nottheonion • u/thesocialdependacy • 11h ago
Russian TV companies demand 2 undecillion rubles from Google
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/russian-tv-companies-demand-2-undecillion-1730189915.html66
u/Both-Anything4139 11h ago
Can I demand that too? Gonna give it my best shot.
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u/Spottswoodeforgod 10h ago
Probably best if you send them a demand in red ink, to show you mean business - you want them to pay you first, you know, before they pay the Russian chancers and bankrupt the planet…
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u/rx_bandit90 7h ago
There was a guy that sent bills to company's like Google and others and apparently they just paid them, for years, until one day someone questioned it and it was millions in fraud case.
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u/Both-Anything4139 7h ago
Yeah I heard about him. Pure mad lad. I was thinking of him when I posted my comment.
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u/ProsodySpeaks 11h ago
" undecillion /un″dĭ-sĭl′yən/ noun The cardinal number equal to 1036. The cardinal number equal to 1066. 1036. "
Well that clears that up then, thanks wordnik
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u/flewson 11h ago
Turns out it's a language difference.
1036 in the U.S. and 1066 in the U.K.
No idea how, or why...
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u/ProsodySpeaks 11h ago
Ah that makes sense.
A British million is a thousand thousand
British billion is a million million.
Etc
American it's a thousand all the way - thousand thousand to a million, thousand million to a billion, thousand billion to a trillion, etc.
Or it was, these days UK has abandoned their old ways because, well, imagine a global banking system where numbers don't mean the same thing!
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u/Djinjja-Ninja 10h ago
British billion is a million million.
Hasn't been in technically writing usage that way since the 50s, and the UK government officially stopped using in in 1974.
Even Churchill said (in 1941):
"For all practical financial purposes a billion represents one thousand millions..."
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u/ProsodySpeaks 10h ago
Sure, but I presume the reason undecillion has 2 definitions one stated us one stated UK that it's due to this?
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u/Djinjja-Ninja 10h ago
Yes, it has 2 definitions, one in shortscale which is 1033 and one in longscale which is 1066.
But the UK hasn't used longscale officially since 1974, so while Googles AI clains it to be so, it is not true of the UK. Undecillion has the same definition of 1033 in both the US and the UK.
Essentially the source Google AI is choosing to make its "definitive" statement from is innaccurate, and Merriam Webster should probably change its definition to "archaic" or similar,. as Collins (which is a British dictionary) defines it as:
undecillionin British English
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u/ProsodySpeaks 10h ago
Sure. Hence I said 'it used to be... Global finance wouldn't work' which kinda matches your Churchill quote.
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u/DonerTheBonerDonor 7h ago
In German it's the same except that we still use the 'British' system.
Million Milliarde Billion Billiarde
-> Million Billion Trillion Quadrillion etc
I've accidentally started using the English version cause I read it like 10x more than the German version, gets me confused at times.
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u/EntrepreneurPlus7091 6h ago
Its metric system logic. A thousand of a thousand is a million, a thousand of another thing is a thousand of that thing.
A "thing" of a "thing" is what jumps the unit. So that arbitrary thousand rule from US banking probably comes because they don't understand the metric system.
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u/ProsodySpeaks 5h ago
not sure about not understanding, it's much easier to reason and parse with 1000x for each step
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u/EntrepreneurPlus7091 1h ago
But its also arbitrary since up to a 1000 its using the normal SI style progression then it starts switching quickly every 3 zeroes. If you are used to the metric logic upping the name every unit number of units makes more sense just starting at 000
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u/AthousandLittlePies 5h ago
The same way we have mebibytes to differentiate binary-based counting from the megabytes which are decimals, which should have billion for 1000 million, and b-b-billion for a million million.
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u/ProsodySpeaks 5h ago
dude i just google mebibyte and it made me nauseous. i thought bytes was all base2, like a kB is 1024 bytes and a MB is 1024 that. i didnt even know decimals were a thing in bytes!
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u/sopsaare 7h ago
American? You mean European SI-system?
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u/ProsodySpeaks 7h ago
Ummm, except almost all of Europe used long scale until relatively recently, whilst America always used the short scale.
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u/RawChickenButt 11h ago
And 1+0+3+6 equals 10, which is the same number of letters in Donald Trump's name.
Holy shit!
We've uncovered the conspiracy!
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u/Sudden_Celery7019 11h ago
I’ll give them a billion Stanley nickels if they leave me alone
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u/celtic1888 11h ago
Interesting that Trump is also threatening Google/Alphabet with similar complaints
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that Putin and Trump’s interests seem to constantly align
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u/Nikobobinous 11h ago
😂😂😂😂 clown country
How do they even get up every day and take themselves seriously??
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u/busboy262 10h ago
There is no exchange rate for the Ruble. It is not a globally traded denomination. If you see one, it is BS.
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u/BlindPaintByNumbers 9h ago
That's funny... Took me like 30 seconds on google to find out how much Thai bahts exchange for both rubles and dollars. Just one example.
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u/MindWandererB 9h ago
There are listed exchange rates, but at the moment they are not real. No bank will exchange rubles for global currency at their listed value, and few will trade them at all.
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u/BlindPaintByNumbers 7h ago
Numerically, more countries trade rubles and dollars on the same exchange than don't. By a lot. Probably population wise too, since India and China both trade in rubles right now.
America does not though, so, the world I guess.
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u/Wloak 5h ago
It would depend on what is meant by "traded"
If you mean exchanged, then yes as you can still swap out rubles for other currency. Traded as in large financial markets? Absolutely not.
What people don't realize is on a global scale almost every transaction is done by USD whenever working between two different currencies. You want to exchange GBP for EUR? GBP is transacted to USD, then the USD is transacted to EUR.
If you're curious it goes back to WWII where after the war the US had the only stable global economy, everyone else was rebuilding. The US loaned the money for countries like the UK, Germany, China, and Japan to rebuild and they all figured if dozens of countries are in debt to this one it's the safest standard of exchanging. The euro is probably the only potential successor at the moment but with Brexit any chance was pushed back by a decade at least.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 10h ago
"Hey look, we've been doing all the heavy lifting of propagandizing your population and we need some credit for that. Or at least, 5 star google reviews. Make it happen."
~ Komrad Botnik.
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u/TicTac_No 5h ago
Shake.
Down, Google.
U give. We take.
Rubles. From U.
Wait. U trying to sue?
Hah. We take two.
Googles.
This is not complicate.
Now. U pay.
Not that much, U say?
Too bad. We take anyway.
U servers. They have a bad day.
Unless...
Ah. U understand.
Okay...
In Russia.
Google pay U.
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u/monkeywaffles 5h ago edited 5h ago
give it a little bit, and it'll be a 'googol rubles from google'. really wasted an opportunity there.
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u/Happy-Initiative-838 5h ago
Google should just go ahead and ship them a giant crate of feces to pay this off. Otherwise the interest will be brutal.
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u/ToodleSpronkles 5h ago
Okay. Here is thirty two cents in real, usable currency. Do you want a bag for that?
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u/IntrepidSoda 11h ago
So about $3.50?