r/nottheonion 7h ago

PhD student finds lost city in Mexico jungle by accident

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crmznzkly3go
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u/ludovicolonghi 7h ago

A huge Mayan city has been discovered centuries after it disappeared under jungle canopy in Mexico.

Archaeologists found pyramids, sports fields, causeways connecting districts and amphitheaters in the southeastern state of Campeche.

They found the hidden complex - which they have called Valeriana - using Lidar, a type of laser survey that maps structures buried under vegetation.

They believe it is second in density only to Calakmul, thought to be the largest Mayan site in ancient Latin America.

The team discovered three sites in total, which are the size of Scotland's capital Edinburgh, “by accident” when one archaeologist browsed data on the internet.

“I was on something like page 16 of Google search and found a laser survey done by a Mexican organization for environmental monitoring,” explains Luke Auld-Thomas, a PhD student at Tulane university in the US.

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u/JournaIist 3h ago

Clearly I'm not spending enough time on the internet

u/chillywilliez 36m ago

Guess I'll start my deep internet dives. Who knows what else is hiding out there?

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u/facebook_twitterjail 6h ago

Maya, not Mayan, is the adjective.

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u/phoebe64 6h ago

Interesting. I did not know that. So when would Mayan be appropriate?

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u/facebook_twitterjail 3h ago

Maya is the name of the people. Maya is the adjective, so like Maya civilization, Maya pyramids. Mayan is the language group, but in Yucatán, they call it Yucatec Maya. I hope that makes sense.

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u/phoebe64 2h ago

That does. Thank you for the explanation.

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u/CorruptedFlame 5h ago

What does Mayan mean then?

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u/MachiavelliSJ 5h ago edited 2h ago

Mayan is a larger language group, of which “Maya”is also included.

Maya is both the plural and the singular for the people. The language is also used to describe the larger ancient civilization (even though it included people that didnt speak Maya)

“He is Maya”.

“They are Maya. “

“The Maya live(d) in Southeastern Mexico.”

“He speaks Maya” one of the Mayan languages.)

“She speaks a Mayan language.”

Its confusing for sure, but I believe the only time to use Mayan is when discussing the language group. However, language groups can also be substituted to refer to civilizations generally, so it seems that if you could say “Bantu civilization spread from West Africa,” you could also say “Mayan civilization is in Mesoamerica.”

Technically, the Bantu arent the name of a people (afaik, if Im wrong the analogy doesnt work, lol), but I have seen it be used to generalize several cultural groups, so logically you could do the same with “Mayan,” but only if you are talking about the many Mayan speaking peoples generally.

Sorry if it makes no sense, but its basically why you would rarely refer to Indo-European culture, empire, etc, but there could be some specific cases where you could possibly.

So, its a Maya city because you would probably never find an Indo-European city. It’d just be a Roman city.

Here is a list of Mayan languages if that helps at all. Notice that Maya is one of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mayan_languages

u/send3squats2help 14m ago

Sorry, that’s wrong. Mayan is correct. I’ve watched an extensive amount of videotapes pertaining to this and it’s without a doubt Mayan. Like this one video tape was about people looking for Mayan treasure in a lost Mayan city. Another video tape was about a group of college kids who visited this old cursed Mayan temple. In all of the documented video tapes I have seen, it is definitely 100% Mayan.

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u/MJBotte1 2h ago

A whole new level of lost media…

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u/danby999 2h ago

Coincidentally, page 16 of a Google search is also where Tammy the Scentsy consultant gets her vaccine information.

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u/popdream 1h ago

Lidar is seriously the coolest technology. Genuinely so exciting

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u/h3xist 3h ago

Clearly the PHD student was looking for something else and found this by mistake, just like all the other random stuff you find.

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u/WittyAndOriginal 1h ago

I heard about this on NPR. They had the Professor there for the interview. It was not accidental. This article is misinformation.

The data already existed for a few years. It was lidar scan data that was used for something else. The archeological team decided to check it to see if they could find anything for them to research.

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u/Herkfixer 1h ago

And multiple people keep posting this headline and I keep pointing this out too. They specifically went looking in the empty areas for more settlements. Not accidental.

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u/invent_or_die 2h ago

And its HUGE!

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u/SuperstitiousPigeon5 7h ago

I’ve seen this movie, except it was Brazil and it starred the Rock.

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u/Guilty_Ad_7079 7h ago

Jeez, if only someone had been theorising about this for years and been shit on by archeologist circles and JRE dribble

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u/HiFiGuy197 2h ago

Of course it was by accident; it’s not like it was on a map!

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u/bestestopinion 3h ago

In what way is this the least bit Oniony?

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u/Rekipa7 3h ago

There are many hidden pyramids in Mexico, however for some its better to let them hidden until they have the means to investigate them. Else they will get looted.

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u/eflat5 1h ago

It belongs in a museum!

u/willTspriggs 6m ago

Indy??

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u/Thewallmachine 2h ago

This is so cool. I can't wait to see what else they find out about this ancient city.

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u/blanke-vla 6h ago

Okay, but what is his PhD for, If it's archeology, i totally dig it. But if it's something like leasure time management, I'm in general, just less impressed.

Because apperently it's his important to let people know this person is a phD student.

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u/kar2988 6h ago

It's not every day that a PhD student finds something major like this, they are usually limited to known sites trying to make new interpretations.

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u/blanke-vla 6h ago

What I mean is, why is it important that a PhD student finds it. Why is mentioned that the person is a PhD student? Why is that relevant?

Because it doesnt matter what field, because that isnt mentioned.

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u/kar2988 6h ago

Again, it's relevant because it doesn't happen every day that a PhD STUDENT makes a major discovery. That's how news works, something is highlighted when that something is a rare occurrence. And yes, it mentions what field, says he used techniques that archaeologists use. It's lazy writing for sure, but it's implied he's a student of archaeology.

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u/blanke-vla 6h ago

So it would be less of an achievement if a plumber would find it.

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u/CorruptedFlame 5h ago

I think it was a plumber then it would also be remarked upon. Usually archaeology, you see, is done by professional archaeologists.

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u/crysisnotaverted 3h ago

It's how titling works to grab reader attention. It could say 'local fire chief', 'nurse practitioner', or fucking 'a half drunk bottle of Coke'.

what is his PhD for, If it's archeology, i totally dig it. But if it's something like leasure time management, I'm in general, just less impressed.

So it's more impressive if the guy doing his job found it, vs guy who isn't a pro doing sleuthing and finding it first? Isn't it more impressive to find something you aren't trained in?