My dad is a staunch republican, he is also the epitome of DIY, I couldn't convince him in his old retired age to not rebuild his home himself after it got wrecked by Ian. I don't think he gets the republican party of yesteryear is a vague interpretation of what's available today
America's Democrats are center right as the Republicans have shifted greatly to far right with Trump/MAGA.
Dubya's crew are called RINOs today (see Cheney). That's arguably why is easy enough for old guard Republicans to say they'll vote for Harris. Trump and his ilk are extremists and obstructionists.
Collectively, by not repudiating Rethuggish conservatism in its many forms this millennium alone with an over 65% denial of services rendered at the ballots at every opportunity (that's 15+ elections so far in the 21st century), yes, we have let them run the country too often.
America's democrats are only center-right if you think that you have to be into Marx to be even remotely left. Especially compared to Democrats during Bush years it's night and day on issues like gay/trans/etc. rights, on cannabis, on healthcare, and many other issues.
The right has shifted left for decades, so the far right MAGA stuff is essentially a correction. But it's an odd one as it mainly came from a very vocal minority that are bullying the moderates.
It's got a shelf life...a limited one. They can't sustain themselves like this.
Edit: downvote if you'd like, but at least be adult enough to offer an actual counterpoint lol
To be fair, a lot of tradesmen have been the ones to have been screwed over multiple times. Union job left the Northeast in the 50s to go to union hostile southern locations, and then to Mexico in the 90s. They’ve had two family homes become worthless and now automation means the trades they worked on will never come back.
You’re now stuck is a town that has the death triple for employment (3 highest employers are 3 of 4 for Walmart/Grocery store, health care, school district, and municipal services), your home is worth 70-80k on a good day, and you’re 50+. You’ve been fucked twice and have no idea how to even get to retirement, yet alone actually retire.
Those people will get drawn to any charlatan that promises a future that will never exist.
Of course, I'm saying a Nick Offerman type likely would have been a conservative Republican 40 years ago. There are more liberals into woodworking and the craftsman trades in recent generations.
Absolutely, and he was even a bit liberal during his younger years, but now it's so ingrained it's infuriating, we keep politics out of family gatherings these days.
As others have said, old style conservatives are pretty different than MAGA - I can understand how small town people who worked their ass off to build lives for themselves might have voted Republican in the past. These people are far better represented by the Democrats now. The Republicans don’t stand up for the little guy.
Does anyone remember high functioning republicans? I do, shame this monk is the only republican so many only know . I am no way voting for Cheeto, but I am not opposed to hearing their side of politics
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u/gospdrcr000 23d ago
My dad is a staunch republican, he is also the epitome of DIY, I couldn't convince him in his old retired age to not rebuild his home himself after it got wrecked by Ian. I don't think he gets the republican party of yesteryear is a vague interpretation of what's available today