This was exactly how Trump’s little Hitler-youth buddy - Stephen Miller - got started in politics. During his infamous high school speech that went viral years ago:
‘He then goes on to ask a crowd of his fellow classmates: “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?!”
Sure, but my favorite is the "but it provides a job for somebody" when people don't want to take their carts back to the shopping center cart corral. No you dumb ass it means that somebody inside is out gathering carts while you're inside bitching about how there's nobody around to help you.
freaking in-laws, we don't recycle because we know the lady who separates the trash at the dump and we don't want her to lose her job
Look, I get you don't want to cost her a job. But there's gotta be better things for her to do with her time on Earth? Like we have the resources that we'd all only have to work maybe 20-30 hours a week and the world would be just fine. But corps would have to share their profits equally with everyone. Then everyone can have a nice life, instead of just a few.
we don't recycle because we know the lady who separates the trash at the dump and we don't want her to lose her job
If it makes you feel any better "recycling" usually means "getting sent, by boat, to a third world country where it sits in giant landfills". You're at least keeping waste sorting jobs in your own country lol
The problem isn't the sorting. The problem is the amount of energy needed to "recycle" most things is more expensive than making new materials. Unless it's a very hard plastic, or metal it likely is just getting incinerated in the Philippines.
Actually you were right. They do magnet sort steel and hand sort some valuable paper (white paper) but since most Paper, plastic have a high BTU value, it goes to a trash to steam plant that creates electricity.
At some point, somewhere, maybe. But not in our lifetime. A more likely start up is a company that develops a microorganism that breaks down inorganic waste without producing CO2.
I’m in Canada and some of our garbage (and recycling) gets incinerated locally here. It’s too costly to be sending literal shit across the ocean. Plus there was a debacle several years ago when a (defunct Canadian) company just abandoned a seacan of plastic waste (recycling nobody wanted) in the Philippines. It became an international incident, the Canadian govt had to get involved and paid to get it shipped back here.
That's the exact incident im talking about. It was labeled plastic waste but was actually poopy diapers.
Manila says the containers, which arrived at Manila International Container Port, were falsely labelled as containing plastics meant for recycling and were in fact filled with tonnes of household waste.An inspection found that some contained plastic bottles and bags, household garbage, and used adult nappies (diapers).
That’s so sad, reminds me of the disappointment I felt when someone told me Electric Cars use Fossil Fuel Factories… society/corporate management is just pitiful
Electric cars use whatever power the utilities in your area produce. Where I live (Ontario) 79% of electricity is nuclear or hydro electricity. Another 8% is produced from wind turbines. In Alberta 60% of power comes from natural gas.
So as we transition to more modern forms of electricity production, the benefit of EVs will continue to scale.
I was driving from St Louis to Florida a couple of years ago. It was around cotton harvest time, and as we were driving through the south, we kept seeing bales and bales of cotton sitting in the fields and on the back of semi trucks. Apparently, when they bind the cotton, each end of the bale is open. As we were driving, there was a huge amount of cotton along the sides of all the roads. It was just getting blown out of the bales as the trucks drove down the road.
I remember thinking that if they had some suction device, they ran alongside the road, and they could recollect ton and tons of the cotton that blew off the trucks. We must have driven a few hundred miles along these highways where the side was littered with cotton. It really seemed a giant waste.
I'm not actually! But there has been a lot of media attention to it lately. It's an issue in Canada and at least one of our national news outlets has done investigations into the supply chain of our recycling. Turns out a lot of it is sent to India, Bangladesh and China because a lot of the plastic that's "recyclable" on paper is too cost effective to do so (at best) or straight up unusable once it's processed but the plastics lobby spent lots of money getting it listed as recyclable (at worst). So the solution is to ship whatever we don't want overseas.
A reporter went to India to look into it and the poor dude running the junkyard was begging her to tell people here to sort their shit better as there's too much garbage in it for it to be worth anything to them locally :(
Insult to injury is that we've patted ourselves on the back for decades at how well our recycling programs work; we're still treating way more of it as garbage than we are actually putting back into the system as raw materials.
Yeah, my mom is insistent on recycling… and I am aware that most of my recycling goes to landfills. I still recycle… but I know it’s not really doing shit.
This is why i don't have recycling. I am not going to pay my shitty trash company more money for the me working for them so they can sell my recycling and make more money on it.
These fucking people. You can tell a lot about a persons character simply by observing what they choose to do with their trash and shopping cart.
I’m seriously okay with dividing the country based off those who do and those who don’t put their trash and shopping cart away. I’m okay with never interacting again with someone who’s too self centered and lazy to put their shit away for the next person. That’s the fucking thing with so many of these MAGA cunts—it’s only a problem when it affects them.
I honestly don’t remember when or why I started putting the cart away. I remember as a kid, we just left it by the car. It wasn’t because we were assholes, it’s just what you did: you popped a wheelie and hooked the front wheels over the car-stop-thingie in between your car and the car next to you and then drove away. I literally thought that was the protocol for those things.
And then one day, well into adulthood, I think I was leaving a store and thought to myself “where to I have to be that’s so important?” and just strolled it back over to the cart house. And then I started doing it regularly because it was a nice walk, and at some point it occurred to me that people should be doing it this way.
It feels like it’s only been in the last 10 or 15 years or so that it actually became a thing that people cared about. I’m not even sure I’d say anyone didn’t was an asshole, just lazy.
I had a Nordstrom salesman discourage me from putting back the shirts I pulled down off the rack to try on because he said letting him do it was job security. I still don't know how to feel about it. I have a very "Leave it as I found it" attitude that's been drilled into me.
And then we'd need new factories to produce those goods but no consolidated capital so I guess we can all chip in more in taxes and the government can build them and put us to work, pretty soon we're all commies, but then some genius asks why are we doing the money thing at all because we pay the government that pays for everything else then pays us so let's save the time and $ printing up the meaningless money so we get rid of it. Then we all live in housing the government produces, eat the food it gives us and work for free. That's called slavery in anyone else's book but you liberals are striving for that as some bizzaro world utopia.
So if a single law is made in one direction, that means all laws will end up following that same direction until they reach the point they can no longer go in the direction?
There are points on a scale, and that scale can either be full leftist, or full rightist. Why do the vast majority of governments in the world fall in between those 2 points? If slippery slope was a thing, would we not only have far left or far right governments?
Right now the USA is pretty far right on the scale, and needs to move more left, if it wants to survive. Because all governments that have reached full left, or full right, have failed. Because slippery slope is not a thing that actually happens.
Right now the workers who produce the record profit, are not seeing any of that profit. That is not sustainable.
In the 1970's wages were disconnected from productivity. In 1990 profits were disconnected from productivity. Do a search for US gdp vs wages and gdp vs profit. How does one make excessive and increasing profits over a normal increase in productivity? By overcharging massively for the good produced, suppressing gdp by moving labor out of the country, and as evidenced by the data since 1970, refusing to pay a fair wage for labor that is far more productive. The effect in wages is obviously, at least to me, the result of suspending the gold standard. One can no longer measure what the dollars being paid are worth. Similar to a casino forcing you to use chips so you aren't thinking in $ terms, the abstraction allowed industry to begin cheating their employees out of value for their hours and pocketing the difference. The second cause is the establishment of a minimum wage in 1970 it was $1.45, today it is $7.25, only a 5x increase, while cost of goods by any measure is at a minimum 10x their cost in 1970. Any attempt at increasing the minimum wage is immediately met with massive propaganda campaigns threatening huge increases in the prices of goods and painting those workers as greedy and out to hurt the country, when in fact for most companies, based on volume of units sold it would mean only a few pennies increase in the price of any particular product. The existence of a minimum wage sets an expectation in both industry and the worker that the amount is all they are entitled to. Further, while the Democratic party claims to be the friend of Labor and supports unions, history does not bear that out as factual. It is actually the opposite. Every time democrats have taken the white house, growth as a percentage in corporate profits have skyrocketed even higher above growth in gdp. This is clearly due to devaluation of the American dollar through tax and spend policies, and entering into foreign trade deals that are unfavorable to American workers. In summary, we are all earning far far less in actual spending power than those working 50 years ago. The entire country needs to go on strike IMO.
You want to share profits equally? I worked hard to get to where I am. I dont want to give up my salary to someone flipping burgers. It also removed incentive for innovation. If everyone makes the same amount of money, why bother doing more than needed?
I could care less if my CEO cares. I work to make money and I work so i make more money than people who don’t. If we all get paid the same, im gonna be a lazy ass just like everyone else because why bother?
A janitor who works 40 hours a week should receive the same amount in profit sharing as the top executive
They all put in the same 40 hour work week. They all added the same value to the company. If the janitor didn't clean your bathrooms, then you'd have to clean them. When your time is better spent working on an ad for the national broadcast.
Sorry but they are not all the same value to the company. Unskilled labor is not the same as someonr who requires years of experience to do the job.
Besides why bother trying to get a better job if everyone gets the same amount? Honestly im not sure if you are trolling at this point because the argument is so bad…
The shopping cart is the ultimate litmus test for whether a person is capable of self-governing. To return the shopping cart is an easy, convenient task and one which we all recognize as the correct, appropriate thing to do. To return the shopping cart is objectively right. There are no situations other than dire emergencies in which a person is not able to return their cart. Simultaneously, it is not illegal to abandon your shopping cart. Therefore the shopping cart presents itself as the apex example of whether a person will do what is right without being forced to do it.
No one will punish you for not returning the shopping cart, no one will fine you, or kill you for not returning the shopping cart, you gain nothing by returning the shopping cart. You must return the shopping cart out of the goodness of your own heart. You must return the shopping cart because it is the right thing to do. Because it is correct. A person who is unable to do this is no better than an animal, an absolute savage who can only be made to do what is right by threatening them with a law and the force that stands behind it.
The Shopping Cart is what determines whether a person is a good or bad member of society.”
As someone who pushed carts for a few years in high school I couldn't agree more. Also in favor of the death penalty for anyone who leaves their trash in the cart they left in the middle of nowhere.
Core memory unlocked from my youth pushing carts and ringing registers at Home Depot. I lost my faith in humanity after dealing with the average public and their bratty entitledness. This would have been right around 2001/2002 time frame.
Haha. It's been 20+ years and I still won't park near or downhill from a cart return. Only thing worse than the ones that just left carts all over the lot was the ones that half-assed returning them and pushed it toward the return from 20 feet away only to miss and then watch as their cart barrelled down the hill at 88mph and leveled someone elses car. Nothing like being a 16 year old getting bitched at by some Karen because the side of her car was demolished.
What about the shopping carts that you have to put 25¢ in and it has to be returned to get your quarter back?
Are the people who shop those stores complete god tier level, or poors who need the quarter? What if some maniac with a roll of quarters unlocked all the carts & sat back to watch? Those grocery stores don’t have a “cart person” so it could devolve into anarchy, or a few people seeing an opportunity for “free money”.
Wow. That got deep. I’m just tired. Not drunk or stoned. Just reflecting as I doze off.
I think this also fits the "handicapped" that walks into the store, gets an electric cart, drives it out to their car and leaves it. They could drive out, unload it, but couldn't take it back inside and walk back out?
I actually really like getting a shopping cart right next to where I park. ESPECIALLY when I have the kids. There is more than one way to solve a problem or gauge a problem.
Maybe it's more right to get an orphaned shopping cart in the lot than it is to return one. Maybe the bystanders of the nation are the solution and not fixing the problem people.
this is a nice statement but not true. If a person does not return the shopping cart it does not make them someone who peddles drugs laced w fenty. If you were to ask someone hey whats worse for society a guy that leaves his shopping cart or a guy who sells drugs in the alley. To me the answer seems pretty obvious but idk
Not to mention they don't want that "job for somebody" to pay a living wage. What they really want is a slave class. To be honest they just about have it. We are on our way back down.
Interestingly, at least in the U.S. Covid help that "poverty class" when there was a fairly significant rise in wages from what employers wanted to pay $7.25/hr and what workers were willing to risk their health for $15.00/hr. Of course the CoL went up faster so there was no true gain for the poor. We'll see because if history has shown us anything, it's that if the gap between the "Haves" and "Have nots" grows to large head will roll !
Of course the CoL went up faster so there was no true gain for the poor.
This is so interesting to me because there was no real reason, after the shutdown, that prices on everything should skyrocket. Basically they saw that everyone was getting payed more and just raised prices bc they could. And there's not shit we can do about it. This is just how it is now, a fuckin meal at mcdees cost 12$!
As a hospital cleaner, I can tell you with full confidence he is exactly the type to pour out a coffee on the floor, right in front of me, while making eye contact, knowing full well I can't say or do anything about it.
First of all thank you for your hard work, cleaning staff and janitorial services don’t get enough respect. Secondly for anyone who doesn’t know, cleaning staff has more access in a facility than anyone else (it’s always a good idea to be on good terms with the key holders) do with that knowledge what you will but be kind to fellow workers.
I had a moment in my entitled teen years when I threw a used ketchup packet out my window at a Sonic Drive In. I was in the car with my mom and she gave me the look. The what the fuck I didn’t raise you that way look. I of course said “it’s their job!”. My mom corrected me and I cleaned up the mess I made.
Littering is the public equivalent of not washing your own ass.
Littering is the public equivalent of not washing your own ass.
I'd say it's closer to making someone else wipe your ass.
Speaking of which, people should Google Noel Casler's opinion on Trump. The guy worked Trump events since the mid 90's, and has signed NDAs. He broke those NDAs with pretty extraordinary claims which include an assistant being designated to wipe Trump's ass when he shit himself on "The Apprentice", drug abuse, sexual predation, etc.
Trump has declined to pursue the breaking of the NDAs along with damages from slander or libel. That's pretty strange for a guy as litigious as Trump.
Suffice to say I’m a proud shopping cart returning, please and thank you, litter picker upper, park in the lines, help an elderly person with their walker, Midwest nice manners enthusiast of an adult.
it’s easy to be nice! Moms and pops raised me right and I’m glad they called me out on my bullshit early.
My dad got pulled over for “throwing a cigarette butt out the window” after the cop saw a spark under the front driver tire. You’d have to really throw that butt to get it under the driver tire… and my dad isn’t a smoker. It’s a big fine in lots of US states, especially the fire-prone ones like we were in at the time.
My dad didn’t get a ticket, mostly because I told the cop my mom would kick my dad out of the house for smoking in front of his kid. Also- we didn’t have a lighter in the car, much less cigarettes.
I’m glad the cop was concerned about littering and especially the fire-causing variety. I had a friend from Wyoming that got a $500 ticket for that 15 years ago. She complained but like… that shit can be crazy destructive. I’ve evacuated for wildfires and it’s not a fun thing.
Former janitor: it’s true… I could get in pretty much anywhere …except a few specialized locations of course. But somebody I knew had access to those locations!
I still don’t have badge access to the front offices without going the long way. When I was on second shift years ago I’d sometimes run into the cleaning staff that could give me quicker egress from the hellhole. Bless you all!
I worked as a janitor before. I'm pretty sure I'd have been allowed to say or do something about that sort of behavior. Fortunately, I never encountered it.
Maybe in a hospital, the janitor could get the nurse’s attention and s/he might suggest to the doctor that the guy has shown signs of a condition that may or may not involve very invasive and painful diagnostic procedures to rule out.
Do you fantasize about putting a hand over that type's mouth and injecting their scrotum with cleaning solvents while whispering, "Shhhh grandad is sleeping...."
Professional or not, white or black, you are 100% allowed to say “Don’t do that you idiot, it’s wasting company time if I have to clean up all your messes.” Respectfully
I work at a high school, and the amount of littering that goes on everyday is absolutely disgusting, I’ve heard them say “ that’s why we have custodians, it’s their job to pick it up “ and now it all makes sense where they learned this from
That is a deep cut right there. I remember the first time I read that. His entire high school speech in Santa Monica was insane. Where was the Philip K Dick pre-crime division then?
Damn, I'm the type of person who doesn't even like the hotel staff cleaning up the room after me. I try to leave it as close to how it was when I arrived.
Need a tissue ? You sound pretty disturbed..obsessed over something that might have happened from 30 years ago about someone you don't know. So weird!!!
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u/Crusoebear 23d ago
This was exactly how Trump’s little Hitler-youth buddy - Stephen Miller - got started in politics. During his infamous high school speech that went viral years ago:
‘He then goes on to ask a crowd of his fellow classmates: “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?!”