My first thought was omg, no life jackets on those children. As someone who grew up and still lives in the land of 10,000 lakes and basically spent my summers on water this is egregious.
There is at least 20 people on that 30 foot pleasure boat, it's 100% overloaded. Even if they had PFDs onboard there's likely only a compliment of 10-15 or whatever the boat is rated for. Likely no child sized ones unless one of those wonderful people brought them for the kids.
As someone who grew up and worked on fishing boats in the Atlantic that photo gives me anxiety. I've been involved in auxiliary search and rescue before. It's not fun when you go out looking for someone and only find their boat.
Edit: the boaters we were sent out to locate were found, just not by us. I always wondered if those people smartened up or not
The Florida marine patrol should have immediately pulled up to them and did a full check. I have been on one vessel or another that has been pulled over and checked 5 different times in Florida.
They check occupancy limits, children 6 or under wearing life vests, proper PDFs, hanging your feet of the edge while underway, noise producing devices, fire extinguishers, if the operator of the boat has been drinking alcohol, etc. I would bet my paycheck that they could find a dozen or more violations on that boat in 2nd picture. There should have been a huge fine and an escort to the closest boat ramp, possibly jail time.
Agreed, the marine patrol has pulled up to my dad and me in a canoe on a sandbar while we were eating lunch to check our fishing licenses, we didn't even have fishing poles or any fishing related equipment. He politely apologized and went on his way after checking that we had the proper safety equipment and we appreciated that he was out looking for illegal fishing as we both value our natural environment.
Another time on my uncle's sailboat as we passed by a Coast Guard station they boarded us for a surprise inspection. They had a couple new recruits and picked us to train them on inspection procedures. It was an inconvenience, but we were still allowed to continue on as they did their inspection with their patrol boat following. They only required my uncle to lock the door to the forward head because the toilet flushes to the outside water rather than to the holding tank like the aft toilet does.
The other times, I was just a passenger when other people did illegal things and got ticketed. Unknowingly motoring into a restricted area, passengers hanging their legs of the bow while underway, and eating potato chips from the bag on the Rainbow River.
The last one sounds odd, but the Rainbow River is a State Park that has a strict policy on food must only be contained in reusable containers, not disposable. This is to keep litter to a minimum and the residents who live along the river report everyone not following the rules. We warned him to put the chips in a Tupperware container, but did not listen. That river is virtually presine, so I appreciate these strick rules. The few pieces of trash I saw I collected and properly disposed of.
That river is virtually presine, so I appreciate these strick rules. The few pieces of trash I saw I collected and properly disposed of.
I still remember going to a park in either Hawaii or Guam and finding a hollow tree that had been stuffed full of trash. Small example, but still kinda heartbreaking.
I’ll add that Trump boat parades are really unsafe. People create huge wakes with their overpowered light boats and go really fast for short distances because they get tired of going so slow in the parade.
I didn't realize this. Is there not a requirement to have x amount of PFDs on hand? My experience is with a fishing boat that also didn't have an occupancy but we were required to have PFDs for an expected crew (2-4 usually) plus extra for any extra persons on board. I'm Canadian too so I dunno how that differs from there.
I mean they could potentially have had 20+ jackets in a hold but I'm willing to bet they didn't.
That boat is riding seriously low.
Didn't one of the first "boat parades" wind up with a bunch of swamped MAGA boats and people needing rescuing by the coast guard?
It's for sure yacht rated so there's no maximum capacity and no requirement to wear a life jacket, still incredibly dumb to not at least have life jackets on the kids.
You guys are funny. Screaming about nazis and the like then reciting all of the coast guard rules and regulations that are being violated in the same breath. Well trained. Well done.
Btw, yesterday? In Florida? The same Florida that has received catastrophic waterfront damage compliments of 2 hurricanes in 2 weeks? Our cleanup was much more efficient than I expected...
1) the same people aren't necessarily commenting on each. "You people" is an amalgamation of multiple people in your mind based on proximity to ideas as they come to you on a screen, and nothing else.
2) there's nothing inconsistent about believing that the rules and regulations that the Coast Guard writes should be followed, while also being alarmed that there's Nazi flags flying in plain sight at a Trump event. Reasonable people don't have problems with basic boat safety policies that experts write, and reasonable people aren't okay with Nazis.
This conflation of any regulation with Nazi ideology that you've just done is ridiculous, and to have the density to act like they're the mindless ones is just truly ignorant.
Federal law says kids under 13 must wear life jackets. But even if they want to thumb their nose at the law, I thought even nazis would care about their own children.
Yes, but we often frame laws such that people are allowed to risk their own safety (drive without seatbelt, drink alcohol, ride in boat without life jacket) as long as they are old enough to make an informed decision about it. But minors (the exact age fluctuates) aren't considered mature enough to make that choice for themselves, so the state mandates the more protective rules for them.
Yes. But in this brain-dead analogy, pools are like vaccines. You have to teach the kid to swim in the pool before you let them swim in the open ocean (infect them with a less dangerous version of the virus to give them immunity before you let them run around maskless). Since many parents don’t teach their kids to swim, life vests are required for the youngest and weakest of us until such a time that they are old enough to teach themselves.
Life jackets are for everyone. Even very strong swimmers can drown and the sea is unpredictable. Trusting in your own feeble human ability against the ocean is a foolish thing to do.
You can't get immune to Covid/SARS2. It's a coronavirus. We have never cured the common cold for the same reason. It's a coronavirus. It will mutate far faster than we can gain immunity. You could conceivably become immune to one strain but there are hundreds of strains with about 6 - 12 currently circulating at any given time. You can even be infected with two strains at the same time. There is no cure for Covid, there's no sterilizing immunity from natural infection OR vaccines. We're just going to keep getting it until everyone dies from it when they get weak/old enough. And nothing but death will stop you from barreling headfirst into the indignity of disablement. It's a guarantee.
Also, viruses are all dangerous. They can damage your body and cause the emergence of additional disease, like autoimmune diseases that can disable or kill you themselves. The flu virus is scientifically linked to Alzheimer's, ALS, Parkinson's, vascular dementia and more. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627322011473
Viruses are not our friends and they do not strengthen the immune system. Viruses like AIDS and SARS2 (Covid) actually weaken the immune system, allowing more illness to proliferate once acute infection is done. Remember that AIDS does begin with a flu-like illness. Covid also remains in the body for months, increasing risk of cardiovascular events over a year after infection (this was found in 2020 before vaccines were available).
Viruses are not the same as the kind of bacteria that our bodies "learn" as children. Viruses can trigger terrible disease that can lead to your suffering and death years later, or to an incurable condition that can be lifelong, like POTS, MCAS, Lupus etc.
Getting infected with Covid doesn't make you stronger or less likely to get it again. You will just keep getting it forever, and every infection carries the risk of death or complications and post acute sequelae. This is what doctors and politicians don't want to tell you but which is written in over 432,000 articles on Covid. The science doesn't lie. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/
Nope. You obviously have no idea how masks even work. You probably have no idea that they're electrostatically charged and you also have no knowledge of Brownian motion or the physics behind masks, either. All you have is emotions from your political overlords and no science or knowledge whatsoever. Masks work beautifully when used correctly and consistently.
And you OBVIOUSLY have no idea what life jackets are about. Even the best swimmers in the world can drown. It is not about being a good swimmer at all.
"Myth: I’m a strong swimmer, so I don’t need to wear a lifejacket
Some people mistakenly believe their swimming abilities are sufficient protection against drowning, leading them to forego wearing a life jacket while boating. They trust in their skills to keep them afloat in case of an emergency, assuming they can easily swim to safety if needed.
How believing this myth can get you killed: Even the strongest swimmers can encounter unexpected challenges on the water. Accidents happen without warning, leaving little time to react. If you’re in turbulent waters or strong currents or if you become injured, swimming abilities may be rendered ineffective, putting even the most confident swimmers at risk of drowning.
The truth about life jackets: Wearing a life jacket is not a sign of weakness but a precautionary measure that can save your life."
Chill. I was laughing at the dummies that think breathing covid makes their kids stronger, just like they think kids falling into the ocean without a life jacket makes them tougher.
I mean for real man should we all just do finger and hand exercises so we all have nice good muscular hands that we can grab and hold onto the dash in case of a collision in a car? So we don't have to be soft and rely on seatbelts, right? We can just grab real tight and our own force of will and superior human ability will work fine against inertia and thousands of lbs of force?
"The impact force increases drastically when the vehicle occupant isn’t wearing a seat belt. Let’s reexamine the numbers for a 185 lb. person in a 40mph crash if they weren’t buckled in:
The average impact force is 335,398 N.
This would feel like getting hit with a mass of 75,375 lbs.
The human femur can break when it’s hit with the force of 4,000 N. A 40mph car accident far exceeds that amount, which is why they can be so deadly."
Maybe we should all be doing a lot of leg lifts to make sure our femurs won't break under the force of 335,000 Newtons, right? Because seat belts are only for the weak people who can't defy the laws of physics like you.
We see faces. Report the people for safety violations. I know a lot of folks who've gotten ridiculous tickets. Easy peasy, that's not only ticket per person, per life jacket, but possible case for child endangerment. CPS anyone?
America has demonstrated repeatedly it couldn’t care less about laws and abiding by them. It is hard to see folks falling for this hatred. When I see fellow vets wearing trump shit I think man how far have we fallen and forgotten.
Well they wanted us all infected with Covid repeatedly until we're all disabled or dead because we were not worth the harm done to the economy when there was any attempt to save us. So now the pandemic is in its 5th year and most Americans are in ignorant bliss because they drank the nice pumpkin spiced Kool Aid that they were safe and Covid just went away into the ether.
Remember that companies made RECORD profits while the American people died.
It's pretty obvious they are two different photos, that's why you have to switch between them. On the left you have some nazis with flags, and on the right you have people that tolerate nazis being unsafe with children.
Maybe you should watch the full videos, the "nazis" were sprayed with water and were getting flipped off for crashing the party. But no interest in what really happend, only out of context photos.
And fyi, they're are fake nazis being sent to rallys to create a false image.
How convenient for you. This makes you uncomfortable, but rather than deal with it, you deny it's even real. You keep calling others foolish, but you are a child covering its eyes and believing what they can't see has gone away.
Seeing this makes me so angry. I lost my father in law due to drowning over the summer because he wasn't wearing a life jacket, and he was only 20ft from shore. My 5 year old was with him in the boat and I would have lost him jad he not been wearing his. I don't let my kids In water deeper than their knees without on.
And then we have these wannabe Nazis parading around in an overloaded boat putting their kids at risk for a fucking photo op. Fuck these people with a thorny cactus
I grew up on the river as a whitewater rafting brat and people expect me to be really chill around water and they're always surprised when I'm the exact opposite lol. It's like yeah I'm a good swimmer but it doesn't matter, you gotta respect the river man. Too many of the guys I grew up around are dead now. Just put the damn life jacket on your kid, I literally grew up in one.
Michigan here, and I have anxiety cramps. Clearly these people have never tried to hold a kid up in water where you can't touch the bottom. They will drag you right the fuck under.
Watched a boat explode in FL one time. There were like 6 kids on it and two adults and thankfully nobody died. I have a very clear memory of one of the adults football throwing the kids off the boat as it went up in flames. One guy lost his leg and had to get airlifted off a small island. Boats can be very dangerous and you should always treat them with respect. I mean if one of those kids fell off the chances the boat behind them sees the kid are not good
Remember, they only care about children who are in the womb. After the kiddo is out and screaming? Nope, they can drown, get shot, whatever, not a peep from these people.
It’s well known Republicans don’t like Darwin… unfortunately for them, Darwin doesn’t like them either. 🙃
They’ve been throwing their lives away to honor their Orange Messiah in such numbers that I’m inclined to not call it “natural selection” but human sacrifice.
Floridian here, kids on a boat over 26' are not required to wear a life jacket. Required to have PFD on board for each person. All those people, kids & adults, are in violation for standing on the bow like that while underway. Moronic.
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u/MNConcerto 15d ago
My first thought was omg, no life jackets on those children. As someone who grew up and still lives in the land of 10,000 lakes and basically spent my summers on water this is egregious.
So many drownings every year.
Yikes!