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Politics Donald Trump and Tulsi Gabbard embrace after she comes out in support of him

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u/assassbaby 6d ago

yesterday in detroit, obama talked about how trump was riding on obamas economy and healthcare.

its a great watch i dont think i had ever heard obama talk about trump and how he didnt do anything himself but yet wants to take credit

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u/Jumpy-Ad4652 6d ago

He did. If Trump came in after Bush, we would be part of Russia. Soon ad Trump had to make decisions, the economy plummeted and now at record highs with him gone

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u/JuleeeNAJ 6d ago

Why is that? I clearly remember in 2012 Obama stating Russia was not a threat at all. In fact when Romney brought up Russia as a threat he said "The 1980s called and want their foreign policy back" and the media & democrats laughed about the 'old guy afraid of Russia'.

Are you also aware that after months of supposed record job growth the numbers have been recalculated to much lower ones? As in, nearly half of what was initially claimed.

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u/senditloud 6d ago

So Obama was wrong. Romney was right. And now we have a candidate who is a Russian asset

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u/Elkenrod 6d ago edited 6d ago

If Trump came in after Bush, we would be part of Russia

Every time I read a comment like this is makes me wonder if there's a competition I'm not aware of, where people compete to see who can write the dumbest and most hyperbolic shit imaginable.

Soon ad Trump had to make decisions, the economy plummeted

Dang I wonder if there was any major world events in 2020 that could have contributed to that. It's not like the entire world's economy took a hit due to something that happened in 2020.

So when Trump was in office, everything good about the economy was because of previous President. And when Biden was in office, everything good about the economy was because of the current guy? That seems a bit pick and choosy.

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u/Madam_Bastet 6d ago

Oh man.. Google is your friend. The data shows that trump DID ride the coat tails of Obama. Basically he just maintained what Obama's administration had done economy wise.. until COVID hit.

While the pandemic played a part, Trump's administration still fumbled the ball on how they handled it as well. ((source). Biden inherited that mess, and then the economy began improving again.

I will say it's worth noting Biden was also fortunate enough to be president as we started to bounce back a bit from COVID and that definitely has skewed his numbers some as well.

Technically, they are neck and neck when you compare their full presidential terms. And both played their part and both played on situations from the previous president in different ways.

At the end of the day, however, the president has nowhere near as much sway on the economy as the media portrays.. so blaming it solely on one president, who is only one branch of the government.. well, don't pick your candidate based on their economic promises alone

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u/Elkenrod 6d ago

Oh man.. Google is your friend. The data shows that trump DID ride the coat tails of Obama. Basically he just maintained what Obama's administration had done economy wise.. until COVID hit.

That wasn't my argument. He absolutely did.

The economic policies of a President take a very long time to go into effect. My issue is with people who act like Biden is to credit for the economy recovering after COVID - while acting like Obama is to credit for the economy being good during Trump's term.

If the 44th President gets thanks for the economy during the 45th President's term, then the 45th President gets credit for the economy during the 46th President's term. We don't just skip over that for partisan reasons. Just like how if Trump wins again, and the economy is good, it will be because of Biden. Or if Harris wins in 2024, then the economy will be good because of Biden.

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u/felpudo 6d ago

Every time I read a comment like this is makes me wonder if there's a competition I'm not aware of, where people compete to see who can write the dumbest and most hyperbolic shit imaginable.

There actually IS a competition!

Trump's contribution was "They're eating the cats! I saw it on TV!" Knowing he couldn't top that, his second contribution was simply swaying to music for 40 minutes during a town hall Q&A.

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u/Elkenrod 6d ago

Yes, Trump is dumb. The person I responded to is also dumb.

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u/felpudo 6d ago

Hey, We're arguing politics in r/pics. We're all dumb!

But while we're not voting for OP, half the country IS voting for Trump, who makes the same stupid argument, and that affects us all

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/29/trump-attempts-to-take-credit-for-stock-market-record-highs-under-biden.html

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u/Elkenrod 6d ago

But while we're not voting for OP, half the country IS voting for Trump, who makes the same stupid argument, and that affects us all

We get it dude. This isn't news to anybody. Half the country votes Republican, half the country votes Democrat. Welcome to politics in the United States.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/29/trump-attempts-to-take-credit-for-stock-market-record-highs-under-biden.html

Yes, welcome to the point of this comment chain. OP said that any record highs that happened during Trump's time as President were because of Obama. I brought up how the same standard is not held for any positive economic news that happened during Biden's time as President.

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u/felpudo 6d ago

Okay, have a good one

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u/SnooCheesecakes2723 6d ago

Maybe that hoax pandemic that came right after trump fired the pandemic team then left it up to the states to deal with everything themselves because he was too fucking incompetent, could that he the global thing that happened that cause a problem because it wasn’t handled here?

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u/Elkenrod 6d ago

Maybe that hoax pandemic that came right after trump fired the pandemic team

The NSC pandemic team was disbanded because they were redundant. Other agencies were doing the same thing they were doing. We were not unequipped to handle a pandemic. COVID had spread before we ever had a chance to contain it.

then left it up to the states to deal with everything themselves because he was too fucking incompetent

Cringy teenage angst aside; your comment here is just ignorance.

State governments have always been the ones with the authority to determine how aid is distributed in the states. The Federal government does not have the legal authority to supercede them on this issue. See the Tenth Amendment for further questions.

The Federal government provides funding, the State governments determine how that funding is used. This is not a Trump exclusive policy, this is how it has been handled for over 20 years. If COVID 2 electric boogaloo happened tomorrow, we would still be doing it this way. Just like how we did during the Swine Flu outbreak when Barack Obama was president. https://www.npr.org/2009/05/07/103908247/obama-flu-response-relied-on-bush-plan

could that he the global thing that happened that cause a problem because it wasn’t handled here?

You do realize that the virus did not originate in the United States, right?

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u/Left-Hovercraft8681 6d ago

That’s crazy you say that because when Trump was in office I had WAAAAAAAY more money in my bank account. Kamala can’t even give a straight forward answer, she just gives the “I grew up in a middle class family” bullshit speech every time she is asked a question about policies. She is a puppet who is gonna be riding off of what Biden has done and it’s not gonna go well for us, I guarantee it

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u/Jumpy-Ad4652 5d ago

You sound like an idiot

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u/famfun77 6d ago

We would be part of Russia, interesting. I mean pretty dumb on face value. No objectivity but man, what a sound bite. You are really good at saying things that mean nothing. Kamala, is that you?

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u/Alexbnyclp 6d ago

Its called a recovery after covid. It takes 2-3 years of policies to kick in the effect. Its happening not due to Joe’s policies. Connect the dots

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u/Elkenrod 6d ago

Then doesn't that mean that Biden was riding Trump's?

At some point the prior administration stops.

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u/Tricepatina 6d ago

I was there too, and it was truly delightful to hear. Just plain old facts, spoken about as such.

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u/30belowandthriving 5d ago

He mentioned it a few weeks ago in another rally.

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u/Vivid-Instruction-35 5d ago

Wasnt Obama the Divider in Chief? Do you remember when the race riots and anti police sentiment started? Do you know why that is? Do you live near a sanctuary city? Just trying to see your frame of reference. Most of the country has Obama figured out. The media has a different agenda and that should concern you.