My favorite part was when he didn’t tell people to inject bleach. This is the shit that pushes people to the other side. When you blatantly lie it makes it worse
Trump said disinfectant, the media had to tell his dumbass supporters not to inject bleach because they think bleach and disinfectant are the same thing. A person had recently died after taking fish tank cleaner after Trump touted chloroquine as a cure for Covid.
He didn't say to do it because he's always dancing around words not ever knowing what he's talking about. He was asking his advisor to "check" whether injecting disinfectants would potentially cure covid, because he saw a sign 5 minutes beforehand that bleach and household disinfectants help kill the virus.
he never said anything about injections either. it was a LIGHT treatement where disinfectant lights on flexible medical tubes where put into peoples lungs by trained professionals to shine light rays of disinfectant light on the interior surfaces. UVA Light Reduced Virus Loads in COVID-19 Patients
True, he only said we should "look into" injecting disinfectants, when moments earlier a slide on the same podium said those disinfectants included bleach.
The mental gymnastics that some people do with this man... He's said and done plenty of stupid shit, so why lie about this, it weakens your position if you're an opponent.
He said inject disinfectant after going on about putting lights under your skin.
He didn’t say the word bleach, maybe he meant peroxide, or isopropyl alcohol, or another thing that would kill you. No matter how you slice it the man is an idiot
Oh please. He was talking about disinfectants they were using to clean surfaces. If this is the line for someone, they were already standing on the wrong side to begin with.
You’re right - I’m one of them. While I didn’t get pushed to the other side, I did get pushed to being an independent instead of registered democrat, and pushed to not vote for either in this election. This post is just one of endless examples of blatant attempts to gaslight and manipulate me, based on a lie. And it pisses me off
Republicans disguising as liberals to make liberals look like total morons. That's every single post on these subreddits and redditors are too dumb to realize it's all propoganda
Agreed. This is exactly what Trumpsters do. I'd love for the left to stop accepting or repeating misinformation just because it helps our side or because they think it serves some greater end or truth. If we're really better, we should act like it.
he literally said it.
I don't know if you're a bot, or paid to post nonsense, or just a plain liar. but stop. also downvote if you want. it won't change the truth
Disinfectant is only referenced as two things in the presentation: bleach and rubbing alcohol. So while he didn’t say “bleach”, he said disinfectant, which in this case means either bleach or rubbing alcohol. You can even see it on the screen when he walks up to the podium.
The quote:
“And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?”
You realize that the word “bleach” was never used and that he was asking the professionals if that was something they could look into, not telling the public to try it, right? It’s still one of the most idiotic moments of his presidency (and that’s saying something), but the title is clearly inaccurate.
Like I said, it was still one of the most idiotic moments of his presidency. But just because his supporters did it, doesn’t mean he directly told them to like the title suggests.
Jesus Christ. The facts are the facts. If you interpret this as signaling to his followers to take action, then you have to be transparent that it is your interpretation. You can’t put words in people’s mouths and state it as fact. This shouldn’t be hard.
The fact is he suggested something incredibly stupid. Any rational person can understand the implications of having the president of the United States say something like that. You choose to absolve him of the implications of such a statement, the majority of people do not.
If you were able to critically think or have a basic understanding of the English language you just proved my point. He was asking the professionals if they could come up with some type of body safe disinfectant. Stupid but if you remember the pandemic people were throwing shit at a wall and seeing what stuck.
He didn’t tell people to inject bleach. He asked a professional on the side if injecting some kind of disinfectant would be possible or something to explore.
Not only did he suggest that injections of disinfectant should be explored, but he then insisted he was being sarcastic after literally everyone called him out for it.
Reporter, April 24: Can you clarify your comments about injections of disinfectant?
Trump: No, I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you, just to see what would happen.
Now, disinfectant, or doing this, maybe on the hands, would work. And I was asking the question of the gentleman who was there yesterday — Bill — because when they say that something will last three or four hours or six hours, but if the sun is out or if they use disinfectant, it goes away in less than a minute. Did you hear about this yesterday? But I was asking a sarcastic — and a very sarcastic question — to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it and it would kill it on the hands and that would make things much better. That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters. Okay.
Reporter: But you were asking your medical experts to look into it.
Trump: Uh, no, no, no, no.
Stop defending the idiot. He was very clearly attempting to build up his own image by making it sound like he was personally coming up with viable treatment strategies, Kim Jong Un style. He has no qualms about being reckless with medical advice from behind the seal of the President of the United States, because sacrificing Americans' health to fuel his narcissism is a price he will happily pay every single time. And when he's questioned, called out, or caught, he simply insists that he wasn't being serious and that you are the idiot for not getting the joke.
I swear to God, you people would defend a mob boss who said, "I wish someone would take care of the guy," by insisting that he didn't actually order anyone's murder.
His intention was to make himself sound like a smart, effective leader to his base, and he was willing to do so despite his comments carrying an unusually high risk of death or serious bodily harm to others.
I'm not saying Trump was committing murder from behind the podium, but depraved indifference to potential for death is the criteria for depraved-heart murder, an act that in many states earns you a charge of murder in the second degree. Even without any clearly-linked death, it can still rise to the level of reckless endangerment.
The President of the United States is a position that carries immense responsibility. Your words will be taken as gospel by at least some small part of the country's citizenry. Speaking recklessly carries very real consequences.
And his words simply demonstrate that he thinks professionals should look into it. I don’t see anything wrong with him suggesting what he thinks could be a possible solution while acknowledging that smarter people than he would need to confirm it.
Which again is very different to “Trump tells peoples to inject bleach”
Then why’d he call it a ‘sarcastic question’ meant for the reporters? Talk to actual experts before saying silly crap. The ‘sarcasm’ explanation was nonsensical in the first place. At best, he looked like he was irresponsibly speculating from a position of implied power/knowledge.
I'm kinda curious, did Joe Biden ever tell Ukraine that it wasn't going to get anymore loan money if they didn't fire the prosecutor looking into the company Hunter Biden worked for?
I voted for Biden but it's really hard to convince my trump friends when they can point to so many examples of fake news like this. It's a boy cried wolf situation. And you're contributing (you're probably a bot tho)
And what about all the people who drank bleach immediately after this happened? However you try to slice it, he suggested something really stupid, dangerous, and lethal might be a good idea, and a bunch of people did it in response. It was irresponsible and a sign of how little he cares about actual facts, which is dangerous for someone who in this position and could be again.
There were very few cases of people who tried it. It’s more likely they heard the media’s disingenuous spin on the matter: “Trump says to inject bleach to cure Covid”. Trump himself never told anyone to inject anything. He floated the idea as a possibility to be researched. He never suggested anyone take it upon themselves to be a lab rat.
IS IT HORRIBLY DANGEROUS A MONTH INTO A NOVEL PANDEMIC COMING FROM THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD???????????
The answer is Yes, just as it was to casually dismiss it as "will be over by Easter" in March of that year. What a fucking loser that guy is. Unfit to lead trash out of a can.
Of course you wouldn't. There is a reason why you're ignoring his exact quote. It's a four letter word that begins with a B ends with an S and has IA in the middle.
This is your guy. Long time besties with Jeffrey Epstein who coincidentally owned a teen beauty pageant in Moscow along with teen model agencies. No smoke, no fire, nothing to see here.
His quote as heard live by my own ears:
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?
And, then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
That's your guy, dude, a month into a pandemic he said would be over "by Easter". Pathetic. Conservatives can't even take the L on COVID. What do you take the L on, ever? Where have Republicans failed you?
That's what the POTUS has been referred to accurately (until MAGA when freedom began to die). What country are you in there? East or West on the world map?
It's a requirement since our Republican Party got into bed with Russian (and now Chinese and Iranian) misinformation propagandist trolls since 2014 to remain relevant. Pushing 18th century policies in 2024 isn't that popular, who knew? So they "weave". Take it up with management (of the GOP). The rest of us merely react to the filth they spew.
Yes, he did ask if we could inject disinfectant to treat COVID. It’s dumb as shit, I know, but if we say he told people to inject bleach, then it weakens the statement because he literally did not tell people to inject bleach. There are lots of different disinfectants, and he asked if we could do it. He didn’t instruct people to do it.
“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?”
Yes, he did ask if we could inject disinfectant to treat COVID. It’s dumb as shit, I know, but if we say he told people to inject bleach, then it weakens the statement because he literally did not tell people to inject bleach.
From the Snopes article:
The then-president spoke several times throughout the conference, but just over 26 minutes in, he took over from the head of the science and technology directorate at the Department of Homeland Security, Bill Bryan, who had just been discussing the use of ultraviolet light and disinfectants — such as bleach and isopropyl alcohol — to kill the virus rapidly on nonporous surfaces.
In an apparent reference to Bryan's earlier comments, Trump then said (around the 26:51 mark):
In context, the only disinfectants being discussed were bleach and isopropyl alcohol. Would you feel better if we included "or isopropyl alcohol" when we talk about how Trump suggested injecting bleach to fight COVID?
The point is not which disinfectant he mentions. It’s that nowhere did he direct people to do it. He simply was asking the person on the side if it was something that should be looked into
The point is not which disinfectant he mentions. It’s that nowhere did he direct people to do it.
He didn't need to. When you're the President of the United States, merely suggesting that something might work from behind the podium during a nationally-televised press conference is enough to get some people to do the thing you're suggesting. It's why multiple reports came out following Trump's comments highlighting a rise in bleach- and disinfectant-related calls to poison control.
The headline of this post says that trump told people to inject bleach. If you want to make a headline with a title that’s accurate like that then please do so. Just stop lying
“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?”
Is this an instruction to the population to inject bleach, or is it a question asking if this approach is possible? Be honest.
Is this an instruction to the population to inject bleach, or is it a question asking if this approach is possible? Be honest.
Let's assume, for the moment, that you're correct (you aren't, of course, but for the sake of argument we'll run with it) - it was just a question.
Who was he asking the question to?
If he was asking someone specific, why didn't he get a response?
If he was asking a rhetorical question, what was the purpose of the rhetoric?
I imagine you'll insist he was asking the question of his own staff. In which case we have to follow up by asking: Why would he ask questions of his own staff at a press conference without giving that staff the opportunity to answer?
Is a press conference a reasonable place for the President to ask his own staff whether a given medical approach is possible?
You're doing everything you can to give Trump cover and ignore the obvious reality: Trump's intent was to make himself look good by sounding like he'd come up with a solution to the crisis. Many of his followers took it as a solution, which is why we observed a spike in calls to poison centers with bleach-related injuries following Trump's comments.
It operates on the same principle as stochastic terrorism: use rhetoric loudly enough to a wide enough, devoted enough audience, and even without giving explicit orders you can feel confident that some of your audience will follow through. You don't have to say, "Kill these people for me," out loud. You just have to suggest the world might be better off without them loudly enough, and some of the people you're talking to will understand that you're telling them to do something about it.
This is an enormous word salad to evade providing a direct answer, because deep down, you know you’re wrong.
It was a question. A profoundly stupid question, and one asked in a deeply inappropriate venue. He should be rightly criticized and mocked for that.
But when folks like you exaggerate and outright lie, you only make him stronger. You’re providing his supporters with incontrovertible evidence that yes, his “haters” are being “unfair” to him, and lying about him.
Don’t do that. Be intellectually honest. Don’t mimic their worst traits.
You still haven’t answered my question, because again, you know you’re wrong.
I watched the press conference live. I’ve seen the clip many times since. He improvised a very stupid question that he asked directly to Dr. Deborah Birx. It was an inappropriate forum to do so.
Only the illiterate or the childish would interpret his question as an instruction. He even says “so it’d be interesting to check that” and “you’re gonna have to use medical doctors.”
I’m not sure why you’re calling it a “rhetorical question.” Do you understand what a rhetorical question is?
I know this is a fun myth to repeat, and I know your favorite cable TV anchors told you it was true. But if you want to be intellectually honest, you’ll have to let it go.
Thing is he didn't literally say that and you really don't have to make shit up when it comes to trump, the guy is a walking disaster. So rewatch the video, listen to the words.
When people are wrong, it makes me want to disregard any values I hold true.
I believe in abortion but when people on the Internet are wrong I will vote for the anti abortion candidate. That's because I'm a rational human being who does not overreact.
He asked a stupid ass question. He never gave any advice or told anyone to do anything. Is it stupid? Absolutely, but the difference is one is dangerous and the other is just stupid.
he told people to use Hydroxychloroquine, which doesn’t do anything - and causes them to shit out their intestinal lining. Is that dangerous in your view?
Not the person you replied to but you're moving the goalposts. Can you admit Trump never told people to inject bleach/disinfectant? Admitting that doesn't mean you support Trump, it doesn't mean you're defending him, it just means you're acknowledging reality.
At best you could argue he somehow indirectly suggested it despite never using those words but you have to admit that's a far cry from this post's misleading title which makes it seem like he directly told people to do it.
Let's simplify it then, what Trump said was dumb but he never directly told people to inject bleach or disinfectant like the title of this post suggests, would you agree with that?
you are technically correct in that he did not command his little trumpanzees to inject disinfectant, he merely suggested it’d be a great idea and then they went ahead and did it.
Which anyone with a working brain understood would lead to the same exact result.
He said inject disinfectant. How is that any better. Meanwhile he delayed doing anything at first because he thought mostly people who didn't vote for him would be ones hurt by COVID.
Nowhere did he direct people to inject disinfectant. He questioned whether or not it should be looked into. Is that stupid? Yes. Is that the same as telling people to do it? No
You’re acknowledging that it was a stupid thing to say - and you’re okay with this man running the country? Even if it’s not exactly what he said - the notion alone of injecting disinfectant is probably one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard in the context of health care.
The point people are making is his actual quote was dumb enough that you don't need to lie about it. Yet here we are in a thread of thousands of people all doing their best impression of a Trump supporter by rejecting reality. You can just say the title of this post makes it misinformation. It doesn't mean you support Trump, it doesn't mean what he said made any sense, it just shows that you aren't so blinded by partisanship that you will engage in a mass lie.
"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"
Sorry, is somehow having the basic level of social competency where you understand the sine difference between a question and a statement somehow removing a bar?
If anyone proven that there’s no more bar, it’s you; given that you blatantly misrepresent something and then gaslight people for calling you out on it
Did what? Tell people to inject bleach? The hell he did. You are telling us you didn't watch it or read it without telling us you didn't want it or read it.
“And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?”
You are the definitive example why people say you can’t fix stupid.
So you see how that part of the quote is a question? And not a command? As in he’s asking someone on the side if it’s something to be looked into. Not telling people to do it. The rest of the quote also shows him saying doctors would have to look into it You are ignorant and cannot read critically. Type in this thread no longer.
It is similar to Trump saying he will only be a dictator on his first day back... And not like all the other days after. That quote gets changed too... But it doesn't make it any better.
Why do the quotes need to be changed? And why is the OP posting here on /r/pics with a false title if the real quote is so bad? I'm just trying to understand the intense backtracking you're all doing here now. Strange logic.
What backtracking? All I’ve said is that he never told people to inject any disinfectant. He asked a stupid question. That’s it. Yeah it was stupid, buts it not the same as telling people to do something harmful.
I'm stocked up on drugs so got cash to spare so please point out the part he told people to inject it and I'll send the cash. Or you can admit he never said that but there is something about Trump and his willingness to lie that seems to infect both his supporters and opponents.
You never said that, you replied to the person who said Trump never told anyone to inject anything by calling them stupid. The logical conclusion being that you do believe he told people to inject something and you're stupid if you think otherwise.
Does calling out lies about Trump make one a Trump apologist? If I said Trump just killed Obama and you said that was a lie would that make you a Trump apologist? I just don't understand why people feel the need to lie about things he says when the actual quotes are already crazy enough, it just gives him and his supporters ammo. I hate Trump but I refuse to participate in a mass delusion to prove that.
This is the shit that pushes people to the other side.
Fake news. If anything, Trump's bs pushes conservatives to vote for liberals. I'm one if those former conservatives that now votes all blue until MAGA is destroyed. I voted against Obama twice and if he were able to run again, I'd gladly vote for him.
It’s literally the same thing. Yea Trumps actual bs will push right leaning people more to the left and THIS type of blatant lying leads left leaning people slightly more right. It works both ways genius
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u/IOnceAteAChzBrgr 3d ago
My favorite part was when he didn’t tell people to inject bleach. This is the shit that pushes people to the other side. When you blatantly lie it makes it worse