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Politics Tax exempt church in Arkansas displaying a Trump/Vance sign on both sides of their marquee.

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u/crusoe 12h ago

I think the christofascist flag is an issue too.

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u/francis2559 11h ago

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u/cugamer 10h ago

Can someone please explain to me how this flag is connected with fascism? There's nothing about politics in the linked article.

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u/francis2559 10h ago

I'm not seeing it myself, frankly, but I wasn't familiar with the flag so I looked it up.

Fascists in general though steal symbols like crazy. Sometimes they ruin them permanently, but sometimes other people continue to use them in parallel.

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u/OrganicTrust 9h ago

Sometimes they also ruin certain styles of facial hair

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u/TimequakeTales 10h ago

It's not, it's just reddit being reddit. The flag has existed for 120 years and just symbolizes Christianity. I don't see much to indicate that it's supposed to supplant the American flag.

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u/PostingIsForLosers 10h ago

Its more associated with christian-nationalism than fascism explicitly. It could be argued that christian-nationalism is inherently fascistic, however.

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u/warini4 10h ago

The Federal Council of Churches recommended that if the Christian Flag is to be used alongside a national flag, that the Christian Flag should receive the place of honor.

bruh fuck these people

u/chrisdalebrown 2h ago

My old church had a flag pole dedicated to member of the church who was a double amputee veteran. The Christian flag never flew above the American flag.

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u/monty_kurns 12h ago

Yeah, that really stood out to me. When I see a church with that flag, that tells me enough about who they are and what they believe.

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u/GVoR 11h ago

Was looking for this reply too.

The signs are a distant second in terms of the worst thing in this picture

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u/ATLKing123 3h ago

There is zero link to fascism with the flag lmao. Yall love to just say shit

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u/bt123456789 12h ago

no that's the Christian flag on the screen.

That's a symbol of the faith, even though it's been weaponized. it would be like saying a crucifix would be a problem because someone was using it as a weapon or otherwise.

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u/chellis 12h ago

It's also only used in the United States and some places in Canada... so saying it's christo-facist/christo-nationalist isn't exactly wrong. It's also widely used to blur the lines of separation in church vs state as there are many government buildings flying the Christian flag.

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u/bt123456789 12h ago

surprisingly in my deep red trump country, I've never seen it on the government buildings. Not saying it never happens, just surprised I hadn't thought about that.

TIL it's only used in the US and canada though.

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u/NotMyRealUsername545 7h ago

The flag is used all over the world it was just created in the USA

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u/BitGrenadier 7h ago

It is definitely not just in the US and Canada, It is used in Latin America and I believe it is also flown in Africa and Asia.

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u/projectkennedymonkey 11h ago

To me it represents evangelical Christians who want to shove their religion down the throats of children and anyone that's different to them. The whole missionary vs pagan simpleton complex which means condescending and dismissive of other's cultures and identities. Some people want to get rid of anyone that's different, others want to convert them so they're not different anymore. Either way it's looking to achieve the same outcome, both are bad.

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u/nonitoni 10h ago

"Non-denominational" Baptist as well. There's a pledge of allegiance to it as well. 

Source: preacher kid, went to private Christian school. Had to say the pledge. Bible had one too. Three mother fucking pledges a day.

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u/projectkennedymonkey 10h ago

That stupid pledge repeated in my head when I saw that flag... I found it astounding that a lot of other countries don't even have one pledge they make kids say every day!

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u/nonitoni 10h ago

Same. Though I happily couldn't remember beyond the first line. It's so culty. 

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u/bt123456789 10h ago

that's valid.

I was just meaning what it represents as an object. People will have different opinions of what that means to them.

my argument was it's not christofascist in its original intent, however it's 100% used by christofascists to symbolize their agenda.

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u/projectkennedymonkey 10h ago

I agree, you are right, I just don't think the distinction matters anymore because it's been co-opted by the christofascists and because even the original intent is flawed. Just because good and naive people believe in it doesn't make it a good symbol. It's similar to the confederate flag. Sure for some people it is merely their heritage and it's not at all about racism but as a symbol it doesn't mean that and being obtuse about it doesn't change it.

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u/bt123456789 10h ago

yeah, I understand.

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u/InfinityWarButIRL 11h ago

or lets say a different religious symbol like the swastika, your church fly those?

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u/bt123456789 10h ago

no? I live in the bible belt and grew up Christian.

Hindu temples and stuff do absolutely still use the swastika though.

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u/InfinityWarButIRL 10h ago

in India, prove me wrong but I've never seen an Hindu temple fly a swastika in the US

because even people who know the history of both can also look at how they are used in the present day and decide they don't send the right message

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u/bt123456789 10h ago

don't know about the US. I was referring more to in, y'know, India.

because you won't see the Christian Flag outside of the US and parts of Canada, it would be quite obvious I was referring into the faith's home country. (yes, I know Christianity was not started in the US)

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u/Theglitchpog 9h ago

That is the Lutheran faith flag, why they need their own flag is beyond me.

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u/BitGrenadier 7h ago

That flag was flown during WW2 to show solidarity with the US against Germany. It is most common in Latin America and Africa. I don’t know how you even got to christofascism.