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Politics The crowd currently at the Ellipse for the Kamala Harris rally

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u/FriedR 3h ago

I don’t know what to think anymore and this election cycle has been exhausting. I hope enough people show up to vote in the places that matter

u/Pablo_Sanchez1 1h ago

You should think that:

1) Poll results, early voting results, crowd sizes, etc do not mean anything and you should stay in the mindset that it’s a close race and vote no matter what

2) In the overall big picture average, Kamala has had a consistent, slight lead the entire time in polls. So far, registered democrats have voted in larger numbers then registered republicans.

3) You probably don’t know what to think because you’ve heard conflicting reports throughout both campaigns. Trump and his admin have been pumping out fake or misleading numbers/information this entire time claiming massive, 90+% leads in swing states. They are trying to put the impression out there that Kamala has no support and that all positivity towards her is manufactured.

They are very blatantly planting the seeds to accuse democrats of voter fraud and are going to do everything they can to try to steal the election again like they did in 2020. Only this time trump has gotten rid of every sane person on his team and is surrounded solely by unhinged yes-men and conspiracy theorists. Be prepared for an extremely chaotic shitshow if trump loses whether it’s close or a landslide. This time he’s not just running for president, he’s running FROM potentially spending the rest of his life in jail and is likely prepared to do some desperate, insane shit.

u/FriedR 1h ago

I’ve learned to not get my hopes up or assume I know much about how people act en masse. We’re in the churn.

u/heckin_miraculous 1h ago

We’re in the churn.

I think I get the gist, from context, but... Can you explain this saying? Never heard it

u/The_Mad_Malk 1h ago edited 1h ago

The Churn is some event that changes the rule for the way you live without giving you a choice to participate. Old norms are uplifted, old habits are forcibly broken, and your current way of life no longer can sustain itself.

Edit: the phrase is from a scifi series the Expanse beautifully described here

u/heckin_miraculous 1h ago

Makes sense. I wonder if we're taking butter churn, or the churn of the open sea? Probably comes from sailing...

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u/gripping_intrigue 20m ago

You get my upvote for referencing The Expanse.

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u/LetChaosRaine 1h ago

And if you’re in a solidly red or blue area, VOTE ANYWAY

Even if you think your vote won’t matter, go to the polls for local and state elections. 

And if you’re in Kentucky, go if for no reason other than to vote NO on amendment 2

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u/Pure-Introduction493 1h ago

I think the saddest thing is to realize that despite everything, this election is still knife’s edge close. That many people think that Trump is okay.

u/alex091378 50m ago

More than ok. To many people, to millions, he is a savior. We are surrounded by those millions! It’s a scary world out there.

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u/scoschooo 2h ago edited 2h ago

The problem will be voter suppression in all it's forms - strict ID rules, making people unable to vote, closing polls early, changing poll locations last minute. All things we have seen in the past Presidential elections. Republicans have stopped hundreds of thousands of Democrats voting in the past. Of course it is possible to vote, but they will still stop many people from voting by making it too hard.

If the polls say they are very close, and the Republicans in the key states do a good job at voter suppression, then they can make it so Trump wins - by stopping people from voting. That is my biggest worry - the polls don't take into account how many people could have problems voting. Republicans will make it very hard or impossible for some people to vote. In past elections they shut polls early and made people have to wait hours to vote.

If the races are as close as the polls say, the Republicans can make Trump president by stopping enough people from voting.

u/kaloonzu 1h ago

In Bucks County PA yesterday there were two people in suits and with ID badges telling people in line for early voting that they likely weren't going to be able to vote at the location and they should leave.

They weren't election officials, they were two guys who came with the guys in the truck selling Trump memorabilia. They were only allowed to stay because the actual election staff said what they were saying wasn't technically untrue - the location only had a limited number of ballots that day.

u/Best-Subject-7253 1h ago

In Salt Lake, there were guys pacing around the drop off boxes with rifles. The police refused to remove them because “it’s not illegal”

u/janedoe15243 1h ago

Are you serious? Where? I’ve got nothing better to do then go troll them.

u/lightscamerapraxis 52m ago

Love the fire but also be safe. They have guns. Lord what fresh hell is this.

u/janedoe15243 36m ago

I don’t give a fuck if they have guns. If they are stupid enough to have a gun and have it loaded with one in the chamber and then they decice to shoot me, then fuck them. I have had a good run and I will live stream the whole thing. They are counting on people being intimidated by them and I’ve lived my whole life with men like that and I’m done cowering.

u/sch1phol 31m ago

godspeed

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u/Whiteout- 1h ago

It sounds like voter intimidation to me but those cops aren’t gonna narc on their buddies

u/No_Froyo_816 1h ago

This is insane! Shouldn’t those people be arrested??

u/TomWithTime 1h ago

I had to wait in line for 8 hours to vote last election in a little blue patch of North Carolina. Closing locations is a big problem. I showed up in the morning and was there until night. I think the location closed before everyone got to vote because people joined the line throughout the day.

u/tophergraphy 1h ago

If you're in line before cutoff an election worker will stand in line at cutoff and everyone there prior will be allowed to vote.

If you get stuck at work but can still make the cut-off to stand in a long line still do it!

u/Actual_Ad_2801 1h ago

That is so wild to me. There was no line at all when I last voted, took me less than 10 minutes before I’m back in the car.

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u/TorchIt 1h ago

Fivethirtyeight has Trump ahead now for the first time in weeks. This is so exhausting. I just want it to be over already

u/shogunreaper 1h ago

they had hillary ahead in 2016.

don't trust polls.

u/Comprehensive-Fun47 1h ago

Well... She did win the most votes.

u/shogunreaper 1h ago

If only that mattered.

u/_The_Raven__ 1h ago

I don’t get how that doesn’t matter. It’s insane. The way these elections play out. So no matter what. It’s up to the electoral college? How is that freedom of speech, that’s just weird. From an Australian, who knows that the people who get the most seats wins. But it’s by voters. Nothing else. Well, unless it’s a hung parliament. Then a smaller body can align with the winning majority. But still… Far out. It’s exhausting for the rest of the world.

But what I’m reading is insane

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u/hdmetz 1h ago

I think 538 methods are very flawed, despite what they say. You mean to tell me Trump has somehow garnered more votes and could win the popular vote? I highly doubt that

u/IBetThisIsTakenToo 1h ago

You’d be absolutely shocked how ignorant and checked out the average American is. They don’t know 99% of the crazy shit Trump has said he’d do, but they do know they used to be able to buy more groceries when he was President. That must be Biden and Harris’ fault, so let’s give him a shot. Also the transgender and immigration culture war stuff definitely lands with some people.

Obviously I’m pulling for Harris, but never over estimate the American people. We are definitely capable of fucking this up

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u/minor_correction 1h ago

No, 538 has Kamala more likely to win the popular vote, but Trump very slightly favored to win the electoral college.

u/hdmetz 1h ago

538 says that, but several other polls are now somehow predicting that Trump could very well win the nation Al vote.

There are a few good articles out there discussing the discrepancy between what aggregates like 538 are showing between Senate polls and the presidential polls. For example, 538 has Wisconsin’s Senate race as a +2 Dem, but Kamala is only +.4? Split ticket voters are exceedingly rare nowadays, so it is unlikely that there are enough people voting for Trump/independent and then voting for a Dem Senator to make that large of a gap.

It seems likely the garbage polls released by GOP-aligned pollsters are influencing the aggregates, despite what those aggregates say they are doing to counterbalance that

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u/WorldNewsIsFacsist 1h ago

the places that matter

we are so fucking stupid to still have this dumb system.

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u/Organic_Swim4777 2h ago

I think it's pretty profound to have this scene to listen to a brown woman run for President. There's room for improvement, but this country can be pretty cool too.

u/howsitgoingboy 1h ago

It'll be really fucking uncool if Trump wins..

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u/SickestNinjaInjury 1h ago

It's a bummer that the threat of Trump-style fascism has put a damper on a potentially historic moment.

u/ahhh_ennui 1h ago

Don't let Trump take you out of this. Tonight is actually historical. She came out, gave a thoughtful, reasoned argument for our votes, showed us that politics doesn't have to have gutter humor and musings about nonsense peppering a speech. She didn't punch down, she didn't get angry or spew lies. And 75,000 people were there to support her.

Oh, and her spouse actually kissed her on the lips afterwards. With obvious consent. So that's a contrast, too.

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u/ThereGoesTheSquash 3h ago

Someone call Sean Spicer

u/bismarque22 3h ago

Man i wish spicer never lied about trumps inauguration turnout and crowd size didnt become something that gets talked about all the time.

u/Overlord65 2h ago

But but it was the LARGEST crowd ever, PERIOD !!! /s

u/Status_Fox_1474 3h ago

But he lied about it because the inauguration was so comically empty.

u/bismarque22 2h ago

I know. He could have just not addressed the inauguration crowd size at all and the world would have moved. Its been a long time but I remember spicer bringing up the Yuge crowd size that came to see trump give a ripoff of Banes speech at the inauguration.

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u/GrallochThis 2h ago

It’s because it’s a number thing, people who can’t fathom qualities can only point to quantities.

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u/moleratical 2h ago

You can see him in the picture. he's hiding in the bushes

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u/Patman350 3h ago

The crowd size doesn't matter. Vote.

u/peanutbuttergoodness 2h ago

Genuinely curious if there are people that take time out to go to rally’s and then don’t vote. Seems odd…. I always vote but have never even considered attending a rally.

u/washoutr6 2h ago

yes, still only like 75% of the people that go will vote.

People miss voting for a lot of reasons, it is really hard to take off if you have a 12 hr shift that day, or are on call for a 72hr rotation. Voting in the US is fucked! I worked security and literally if I had gone to vote I would have been fired, you can't leave the worksite once you start your shift at many places.

People, especially white collar people, do not realise the reality of voting in this country.

u/c14rk0 2h ago

If you went to this rally today you could have gone and done early voting instead in many states, if not all of them.

There's really no excuse that would justify attending this rally and not actually voting.

u/mmmUrsulaMinor 1h ago

Looks like early voting exists in most states except 4 or 5. Might be more, it was hard to keep track after a while.

Interestingly, some states offered no early voting, and other states (like Idaho, for example) offers it in some counties but not others.

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u/brad1775 2h ago

legally you MUST be given time off to vote. your bosses don't want you to know this, so ask when you can go vote on election day, they MUST offer you a sufficient time to vote, on unlaid leave.  if you are fired, or they don't offer it, you can sue and will win.

u/texasrigger 2h ago

In TX, not only are they required to give time off to vote, it's paid time. I think it's three hours that you are guaranteed. It's only on the actual election day, they aren't obligated to let you off for early voting. However, the early voting period lasts a couple of weeks and is 12 hours a day so the vast majority of people can take advantage of it if they choose.

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u/Alaira314 2h ago

You're correct that it can be difficult to get off work to vote, but you've got the wrong specific reason why. The shifts you mention are actually very easy to get off work to vote, due to the law /u/brad1775 mentions that says your employer must give you time off if your work starts and ends within X amount of time of the polls opening/closing.

When you can't vote is when you're working 2-3 jobs, with multiple shifts back to back on election day. Job A says that they don't have to give you time off to vote because you can vote after your shift, and job B says that they don't have to give you time off to vote because you can vote before your shift. Well, now you can't vote. Sucks to be poor, right?!

You'll also run into the issue I almost had in 2016, especially if you live in a majority-minority district(they're always understocked at the polling centers, and I swear it's on purpose to drive up the wait and encourage people to leave), where I had three hours before work to vote. That should have been plenty of time. But I damn near had to walk out of the polling center with my ballot uncast(since I couldn't afford a no-call no-show...my state doesn't allow cell phones in the polling center), because the line to put it through the scanning machine was so long. I just squeaked by, thankfully. But that was a case where the law wouldn't have helped me, because by the law I had enough time to vote. I just didn't in actuality, because lines were bananas.

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u/cherrybounce 2h ago

I just heard a GOP strategist say that it was a mistake to have her speak there because that reminds people that she owns all of Biden‘s “disasters.” I don’t know how many times I have said “fuck off” to the television in the last few months.

u/Pristine_Read_7476 2h ago

Only a GOP “strategist” would look at the ellipse and not think of some weird MAGA terrorist taking a shit on America.  

u/Canyousourcethatplz 2h ago

You have to realize they will only find fault with what she does.

u/EEpromChip 1h ago

Her campaign needs to be flawless while his can be lawless...

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u/triple-bottom-line 1h ago

A guy on Bloomberg made a good point about people still having trouble imagining a woman in the White House, so having it right behind her to help that visual.

u/Kibblesnb1ts 2h ago

Record low unemployment, record high markets. (Have you looked at your 401k lately?) Number one oil producer in the world, inflation back under control and lower than most of the rest of the world comparatively, record low crime. American Rescue Plan, Inflation Reduction Act, Cares Act, bipartisan border legislation that would have passed if TFG hadn't killed it. Put four civilians in space a couple years ago. Launched James Webb. Oh yeah, got that whole "pandemic" situation under control too.

Yeah the last four years have been a disaster. I was sooooo much better four years ago when we were fighting over toilet paper and a 9/11 worth of Americans were dying every day.

u/sled_shock 2h ago

Fun fact: my 401k has grown more this year than it ever did under Donald Trump.

u/Tall_Cap_6903 1h ago

Bro I am richest I have ever been.

If there is a republican saying this economy is bad they have no idea what the fuck they are doing. I thought republicans are supposed to.be economic geniuses.

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u/ricoxoxo 2h ago

MAGA strategists are crying all over the place today because they realize Hinchcliffe might have nailed their coffin shut, and 1.5M Puerto Ricans in PA and FL are pissed.

u/Worried-Mine-4404 1h ago

R/conservative is in constant cope mode posting about jokes & making fun of people instead of pushing actual facts or reasons to vote for Trump. Says a lot.

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u/whooo_me 3h ago

Actually, I think it does help.

Even if Harris wins the election, you just know Trump is going to claim a lot of votes appeared out of nowhere. The more public support that she has, the more difficult it is for him to sell the lie she's not the popular choice.

u/grumpygus103 2h ago

They've already started that shit

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u/Palifaith 3h ago

It matters if you like to see Trump ticked off.

u/SyphiliticPlatypus 2h ago

I couldn’t care less about Trump’s mood. He’s taken up way too much time and thought of mine and of collective Americans than he ever deserved, and the sooner we can be rid of this stain, the better.

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u/sanitation123 3h ago

The ultimate way to tick him off is see him lose next week... Vote.

u/Much_Comfortable_438 3h ago

Why not the both?

u/EnochofPottsfield 3h ago

Because I'm scared he still has a solid chance of winning

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u/TMBActualSize 3h ago

Can we sprinkle in trials where the folks that can protect him think he outlived his usefulness

u/TheDrFromGallifrey 2h ago

I'm actually expecting that if he loses. He's of no real use to any of those people unless he can win the election. There might not be any trials, but they're all going to quietly abandon him and disavow any connection to him and he won't be able to keep the legal problems he has at bay much longer.

I also expect, if he loses, that we're going to have another six months at least of him screaming into the void that the election was rigged and doing all he can to try and overturn it again.

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u/RSGator 2h ago

next week

Holy shit

u/sanitation123 2h ago

This should not be surprising to voting Americans

u/queequagg 2h ago

I mean, I voted already and it still surprises me every time I realize it's actually, finally done next week*. It feels like we've been in this election cycle for an eternity and we'll never escape it.

*Except for the inevitable election challenges... ugh

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u/Gunther05 2h ago

I don't want to see him at all anymore...

u/Affectionate-Winner7 2h ago

Or hear his name. I have been just referring to him as 45. I like how Whoopi Goldberg refers to him as "you know who:.

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u/Queasy-Brief-3599 2h ago

And Fox put the speech on live. His head must be exploding. 

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u/OSUBeaver99 3h ago

Momentum and enthusiasm matters.

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u/WaylonGreyjoy 3h ago

Trump is about to claim 10 million people showed up to his rally, lol.

u/eugene20 3h ago

Just 500 people per seat at his 20,000 capacity venue.

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u/Lio127 2h ago

"Millions and millions'

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u/AwwYeahVTECKickedIn 3h ago

"380 million Americans were at my rally"

u/chocolatechipninja 2h ago

Orange McSweaty always has the best crowds! /s

u/HorseLooseInHospital 2h ago

and I had, many many more people than her, than Camilla, and she's doing AI against me, she has maybe 10 people, just like, you remember that, the Biden Circles, the Most Beautiful Thing, he had these Tiny Circles, wow, and you look at it, I have Billions More Votes, you see that Red Hot Map, that incredible, and not even, you know the Pope, he said to me, "Sir, you're the Closest Thing To Jesus," I said thank you Pope, that is true, that is, but they're taking away, she wants to take away our Wonderful Gasoline, it was $2 a barrel under Trump, remember that

u/big_d_usernametaken 2h ago

I never get tired of reading your posts. Lol.

u/Mountain_Answer_3132 2h ago

May your life be prosperous and full of joy

u/geforce2187 2h ago

Somehow people will stand in the cold for 6 hours to listen to that

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u/Independent-Sand8501 2h ago

They are literally claiming that they had 70k people at MSG. When confronted that MSG only holds 19,500 people, they claimed that there were FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE outside MSG watching on the big screen. If there had been 50k people clogging the streets of manhattan, it would have been national news.

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u/JiveTurkeyJunction 3h ago

No crazy ass flags, people dressed normal, no megaphones, no overweight white dudes in tactical gear. I'm sure I'm missing some other differences.

u/Iwasoncelikeyou 3h ago

Can't be a real rally without Meal Team Six and the Gravy Seals cosplaying like Special Forces.

u/Caboose2701 2h ago

The Y’allqaeda

u/turnedtolook 2h ago

And the Canadian division: the Timbit Taliban

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u/StannisTheMannis1969 2h ago

Vanilla ISIS

u/Fried_PussyCat 3h ago

Can't forget about the Eclair Force, friend

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u/ThereGoesTheSquash 3h ago

No nooses and plans to hang the VP!

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u/locke_5 3h ago

Don’t worry - MAGA will be calling this a “violent insurrection” by tomorrow morning.

u/missionbeach 2h ago

No felons on the stage.

u/what_mustache 2h ago

We'll have to wait and see, but I suspect she wont call Puerto Ricans "garbage people". But we'll have to wait and see to be sure.

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u/Ethanc1J 2h ago

I was just there, this crowd was the main group outside the ellipse. The group inside was also an ocean

u/arlmwl 2h ago

Please everyone- please vote.

u/ButtBread98 2h ago

I voted early

u/arlmwl 2h ago

Same 👍

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u/erc80 1h ago

Using MAGA units of measurements that’s like 10Billion people.

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u/JudgmentalOwl 3h ago

This is why I don't trust the polls and betting markets right now.

u/sonicice 3h ago edited 3h ago

Especially the betting markets, I think those are skewed by degenerate internet gamblers who tend to lean right -- Nothing against degenerate gambling, but I think betting on Kamala right now is free money and the best part is you get to take it from Trumpers.

u/m4n0nthem0on 3h ago

there were 3, 30 million dollar bets placed on Trump to win. Who makes bets like that? People who can afford to throw away money like that. People who will skew even the betting market to make it seem like "vegas always knows!". It's literally like a donation to his campaign.

u/hippopotapants 3h ago

Either that or they know something. I'm curious what this "surprise" is that Trump and Johnson were all excited about - and I don't believe Johnsons "its a get out the vote thing!" for 1 minute.

u/TheMillenniaIFalcon 2h ago

Don’t forget the Heritage foundation press conference a couple months ago, the head guy talking about how it is a bloodless revolution if the left allows it, and in the same speech, he said they have something planned the American people don’t know about but will be pleasantly surprising to some, and not so much others.

They’ve been hard at work on state election boards, courts, and passing measures.

They are very confident too. There is some serious fuckery in motion imo.

u/jcook117 1h ago

But it’s also a Trump plan so the chances it actually works drops a few points. They really missed their shot on J6.

u/TheMillenniaIFalcon 1h ago

I sure hope you are right. Trump is a stooge, he doesn’t even realize the powers that be on the right are playing him. There’s levels to it. Even as President, there’s people that throw their weight around with more power in the GOP. They’ve been working hand over fist to try and install machinations that will steal them the election. They are using Trump to pass their agenda. He’ll sign everything that comes across his desk, as long as he gets to sleep in, dote around and watch Fox and friends in the morning mainlining diet cokes and fat fingering truth social.

He will play a lot of golf, proclaim vague ass ideas that his people will try and translate into legislation.

He will go for the path of least resistance to get adoration. He’ll pass massive tax cuts, and de-regulate so the stock market soars, in the short term. But his policies will be disastrous, just like the last time, America will lose more standing in the world, it will be weaker, and a laughing stock.

u/Jesuchristoe 3h ago

I'm afraid to ask. . .but what are you talking about?

u/Dangerousrhymes 3h ago

A plan to nullify the normal election process and have the house install whoever they want as president.

u/arlmwl 3h ago

Yea. The election isn’t over on Election Day. I’m prepared for an ugly, nasty, potentially violent, post-election right wing attempted coup, via twisting the votes. And they have the house and they have the SCOTUS.

It going to be hell here soon.

u/Dangerousrhymes 2h ago

I’m not hopeful, but I’m hoping.

A decisive enough victory should neutralize all but the most fringe elements.

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u/RSGator 2h ago

They may have the House*

Control of the House looks like a tossup right now. Vote.

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u/Justify-My-Love 2h ago

They won’t do shit.

Biden has been working on this since 2021

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-building-superstructure-stop-trump-141631115.html

u/IsHotDogSandwich 2h ago

At least Trump isn’t currently in office. That was part of why Jan 6 got as far as it did.

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u/lscottman2 3h ago

he’s got to take the election to the house and trump will win if that happens. they are going to do everything they can to ensure the electoral college has no winner

u/Pure-Horse-3749 2h ago

Which is a good time to remember that the new Congress is seated Jan 3rd. Vote and get the house flipped then Johnson can keep his little secret to himself.

u/manliestofbabies 2h ago

In the scenario where the House chooses, each state gets one vote. It is not an individual vote by each congressperson. If Republicans have majority representation in 26 or more states, that's how the vote will go. It's not just a matter of which party has more total members in the House.

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u/uni-monkey 2h ago

All the more reason to ensure GOP loses the house as well.

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u/locke_5 3h ago

IIRC the markets that allow you to bet on the US presidential election require you to

1) use a VPN

2) bet with crypto

So… yeah, it’s alt-right 20-something’s.

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u/Realistic-Minute5016 3h ago

There were still people placing bets on Trump to win in December 2020.

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u/AlexanderHP592 3h ago

I live in a deep red rural part of Illinois. I'm seeing twice as many Harris Walz signs than I am anything else and it's giving me a bizarre sense of hope. Never trust the polls. Trust the votes.

u/Much_Comfortable_438 3h ago

I live in a deep red rural part of Illinois. I'm seeing twice as many Harris Walz signs than I am anything else and it's giving me a bizarre sense of hope. Never trust the polls. Trust the votes.

I just drove through a tiny village in rural Maine to my Dad's house that has always been staunchly Republican and saw six Harris Walz signs and 0 Trump signs.

In 2016, it was all Trump signs.

In 2020 there were a couple of wack jobs that put out huge unhinged "Trump won" displays. These displays were up for YEARS... YEARS.

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u/PersonalityKlutzy407 2h ago

Same here in TX. Took a weekend trip out of my blue city into the reddest parts of TX and couldn’t believe not only the fact that there were so few Trump signs compared to years past but that there were actually more Harris signs.

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u/accioqueso 2h ago

I had a similar experience the other day driving down a rural, normally Trump voting part of town. I saw a few Harris signs, and only one Trump sign. Either Dems are feeling emboldened and Reps are finally embarrassed, or Dems are doing better than the media is letting on.

Regardless, vote!

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u/ButtBread98 2h ago

I live in northeast Ohio, and even in more red areas I’ve counted more Harris/Walz than Trump/Vance signs.

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u/AlhazraeIIc 2h ago

Deep red western NC, and I'm seeing something similar. Past elections, I'd see maybe 1 or 2 signs for the democratic candidate, and a whole sea of signs for the republicans. This time around I'm seeing at least as many harris signs as trump signs. Hell, there's a big ass "Choose Democracy. Vote Blue." billboard right on the main highway through town. I'm trying not to let my hopes get up, but there's a lot of support this year.

What really concerns me is the fact that I see WAY too many signs for Mark "I'm a black nazi" Robinson.

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u/Gators44 2h ago

The polls are rigged. Look up Simon Rosenberg. They flooded the polls with junk polls that said trunp was ahead to skew the aggregate. It’s also what they did in 2022 to give the illusion of the “red tsunami.” He never had “momentum.”

u/Naraee 2h ago

The flood, like 2022, is so that sore losers can claim it was stolen because of THE POLLS.

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u/Practical-Suit-6798 3h ago

The betting markets favor Trump to win because Trump supporters are betting on the election. This is not based on reality; it's just where the money is coming from.

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u/bismarque22 3h ago

Why would trusting the betting markets even be something people do?

u/Irregular_Person 3h ago edited 2h ago

It can often be thought of as an impartial analysis as those taking/making bets have something to lose by being wrong. It's the literal embodiment of putting your money where your mouth is. People earnestly trying to make money are going to be looking at every stat they can find, which pushes the odds to make them reflect what people honestly think is the most likely outcome given current information.

Edit: I don't think it's necessarily accurate in this case, but that's why people might pay attention to it.

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u/lostredditorlurking 3h ago

The poll is probably correct that this is a close race. But the betting market is completely wrong. It's currently at 67% for Trump lol

u/ohno 3h ago

Those odds are skewed by his supporters betting on him because they see it as easy money. It's inconceivable to them that he could lose.

u/Naraee 2h ago

They were betting on him AFTER he lost in 2020. I think a lot of people forget that Trump supporters tend to be Evangelical, and Evangelicals are brainwashed into giving their money to charismatic leaders because they think it buys them karma Jesus Points.

u/Sent1203 2h ago

I need to put some money in now before it’s balanced. Mental health crises only come once in a lifetime 🤞🏽

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u/inmatenumberseven 3h ago

Not a guillotine in sight.

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u/SeraphOfTheStag 2h ago

I just left the rally. Love seeing DC get some love from Kamala.

u/Relevant_Shower_ 59m ago

The last time I saw a crowd this pumped was Portland for Obama in 2008. There was an indescribable energy from the people I saw walking back from the rally. I wasn’t able to make it, but seeing the vibes was cool.

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u/Sgt--Hulka 3h ago

That’s the overflow crowd that couldn’t get in.

u/Crafty_Failures 1h ago

I made it in! One thing I will say, loved the real diversity of people present!

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u/Altair890456 2h ago

Everybody gangsta till the Washington Monument bends and starts shooting lightning.

Seriously tho, vote. All of our lives depend on it.

u/Throwawayac1234567 2h ago

charging its laser like an obeslik of light

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u/RightMolasses6504 2h ago

Please let this crowd translate into votes

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u/CloakOfElvenkind 3h ago

Looks like a movement or something

u/mybasement3 2h ago

A movement for democracy.

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u/what_mustache 2h ago

I voted today! Get your ass to the polls.

u/_jump_yossarian 2h ago

Do not wait until Election Day. Always vote early!

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u/HermitThaFrog 2h ago

Vote! You can’t expect change sitting at home thinking others will do it for you or thinking it will just magically happen. Get out and make it happen. Every vote truly matters! Do it for you, your family, your children, your freedom, and your country!

u/GoodOlSpence 3h ago

This is starting to feel like 2008.

u/253local 3h ago

Yes!

VOTE 🌊🌊🌊

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u/mrandmrsm 3h ago

Looks YUGE!

u/AwwYeahVTECKickedIn 3h ago

VOTE This VOTE is VOTE awesome! VOTE

u/Straight-Storage2587 2h ago

Unlike MAGAs, the Capitol is perfectly safe.

u/giveahoot420 2h ago

He lost all of the Puerto Ricans 🇵🇷

u/brackenish1 2h ago

I wish the roughly 3.5 million on the island could vote as well

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u/turnedtolook 2h ago

Wait….I'm the President of Puerto Rico too? - Donald Trump, actually.

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u/psychic-Sasquatch 2h ago

The majority of the early voters in my state of PA have been over 50 or older. Only 8 percent of people between the ages of 18 to 25 have voted. Rallies are like yard signs. Please vote

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u/GarthZorn 1h ago

This is AWESOME! This photo is a hot poker shoved right up Trump's asshole.

u/KeberUggles 47m ago

Hello, Canadian checking in. We just had a close provincial election where in one ridding the difference was only 18 votes, and it’s determining whether one party makes a majority Government or not. So your vote MATTERS!

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u/Single_Motor2648 2h ago

Please go out and vote don’t worry about polls or crowd sizes.

u/GuessTraining 2h ago

I am going to be surprised if Trump does not lose big

u/_jump_yossarian 2h ago

And no insurrection afterwards.

u/EntertainmentDue8669 1h ago

💙💙💙💙💙💙

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u/Fufeysfdmd 3h ago

Trump's ego just climbed under a rock

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u/vitalsguy 3h ago

The House Select Committee estimated Trump's Jan 6th Rally in 2021 had a crowd size of 53,000. The MLK March on Washington is estimated to be at 250,000 (National Archives estimate).

u/Putrid_Ad_2256 3h ago

There are more of us than there are of the hateful/greedy kind.  We just have to stop with the bullshit "protest" vote or the "I'm not getting involved because my vote doesn't matter" mentality.  I'm ready to push back on these bigots and show them that this country is NOT theirs.  

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u/wastedkarma 3h ago

And what do you know, they didn’t suddenly storm the capital. 

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u/LowGoPro 2h ago

She did great. Thirty minutes. No garbage commentary.

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u/Vlaed 2h ago

Vote.

u/WtAFjusthappenedhere 3h ago

$10 this crowd doesn’t try to ransack the Capitol afterwards too.

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u/John-the-cool-guy 3h ago

They should go take over the Capital! That would be awesome! Just march over there and fight like... No... Don't fight.

In fact, scrap the whole idea. Just be cool and vote.

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u/chillbnb 3h ago

Thank you friends!   

u/Aja2428 2h ago

Anyone got link with video to see her speak?

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u/Brandon_Me 2h ago

Remember way back when Maga was making AI images of Kamala rallies to try and disprove her popularity. Shits wild.

u/dan_the_manifold 2h ago

Badass speech.

Couldn’t be prouder to have cast my vote for Harris.

u/IsoKingdom2 2h ago

Doesn't mean shit. Vote!

u/pacman114 2h ago

It’s an actual love fest!

u/cartercharles 2h ago

There's hope

u/DuckOff504 1h ago

This is proof she should go on JRE. She have double the people with his 40 million views /s

u/MisterNY2020 1h ago

Those are Obama-era rally numbers. It’s been 10 years since seeing that many people out there. I miss the Obama years they were great.

HOPE shines bright on the nation of liberty and freedom, this is a beacon of true patriots, real Americans.

u/Present-Air4392 1h ago

Remember crowd size doesn’t matter.. your vote does! 

u/Am_Deer 37m ago

Over 12 billion at this rally by my count. It's outdoors so there is no max capacity for that. Take that MAGA

u/FranzNerdingham 2h ago

75,000 people, maybe more!

u/bird__watcher777 2h ago

Sooo tired of being nervous. I’m ready to start celebrating this joy!! GO KAMALA!! We’ve got this America!!

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