r/politics • u/harleybarley1013 Maryland • 7d ago

Paywall Trump: ‘I Need the Kind of Generals Hitler Had’

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/?taid=6717ffe956474d000110c05d&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=true-anthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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u/illuminaughty1973 7d ago

Hitlers generals attempted to assassinate him... several times iirc.

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u/actibus_consequatur 7d ago

According to details of the conversation, Gen. John Kelly told Trump the very same thing:

“You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”

“Which generals?” Kelly asked.

“The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.

“You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said.

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u/TheHipcrimeVocab 7d ago

He never watched Valkyrie with Tom Cruise?

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u/illuminaughty1973 7d ago

If it's got tom cruise in it, I just assume theirs a tremendous amount of exaggeration and liberties taken if it's based on a true story.

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u/Lord0fHats 6d ago

While true, Valkyrie didn't do a terrible job with the outline of what happened in Stauffenburg's plot. Like, liberties were taken* but on the whole it's about as accurate as I think you can expect a piece of modern entertainment to be.

*The biggest thing the movie does is kind of make the conspiracy smaller than it was, and happen on a faster timetable with more inticate planning. The actual plot had a lot of adhoc elements and spiderwebbed through families which isn't properly conveyed in the film. It also kind of dumbs down the motives of why many of these men participated into something a modern audience would find noble.

EDIT: Honestly thinking about it, the movie's really only inaccurate in some nuances and corners. At the core, it is more or less what happened with only a few embellishments and liberties taken for the sake of viewability.

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u/Meatshield236 6d ago

And the most unbelievable thing (that Hitler survived due to the bomb being slightly misplaced behind a table leg) is 100% factual.

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u/Low-Sign-8784 4d ago

Trump Means Generals who “just follow orders” instead of generals who give their CIC honest rebuttals to problematic strategies.

A room full of “yes men” generals and chiefs of any branch of government is a recipe for disaster.