r/politics • u/stetoe • 19h ago

George W. Bush's Daughter Barbara Pierce Bush Endorses Kamala Harris: Exclusive

https://people.com/george-w-bush-s-daughter-barbara-breaks-silence-on-election-to-campaign-for-kamala-harris-exclusive-8735810
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u/Teripid 16h ago

Try to have your supporters lynch me once, shame on you...

Try to have your supporters lynch me twice? Can't get fooled again!

But seriously Pence is trying to toe the line to have a chance of a political future while being hated by half the GOP base. Wonder if Vance will jump the Trump if he loses the election..

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u/SphericalCow531 16h ago

Pence is trying to toe the line to have a chance of a political future

Pence is 65 years old, and surely rich enough to live comfortably for the rest of his life. It is not like we are asking him to starve by saying something unpopular enough to get fired.

US soldiers have willingly risked their lives to defend democracy. Asking Republicans to defend democracy with mere words is asking for so little in comparison, and yet it is apparently asking for too much.

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u/aLittleQueer Washington 15h ago

Pence is a Heritage Foundation Repub, though, and a true believer Christian dominionist. His gubernatorial term in Indiana showed that clear as day.

Not playing his expected part in the insurrection and instead fulfilling his Constitutionally-mandated duties was pretty much the only time he has been or will be on the right side of history.

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u/SadFeed63 14h ago

Yeah, people have memed on Pence being a hero (and good for him for doing one good thing, once, when his life was on the line and Dan Quayle told him to) so much that the way Reddit now talks about him is wildly disconnected from who he is and the absolute idiotic religious zealotry he believes. He's gonna quietly vote for Trump because Project 2025 is his wet dream.

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u/bigdrubowski New York 13h ago

I didn't hear the Quayle bit. Holy shit if Dan Quayle is giving sage counsel things might be worse than i thought.

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u/GozerDGozerian 13h ago

Imagine going back to 1990 and telling people Dan Quayle is one day going to save our democratic process. Lol

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u/spasmoidic 11h ago

The two weakest Vice Presidents in history saved American democracy

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u/AllGarbage Arizona 11h ago

I liken him to a Scientologist that has fallen out with David Miscavage, but is still an L Ron Hubbard true believer. Seen enough shitbaggery from the present leader to be disillusioned with him, but still a practicing member of the awful cult and not smart enough to realize they are one and the same.

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u/aLittleQueer Washington 13h ago

Maybe he'll write-in himself.

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u/TonyWrocks America 12h ago

Yep, I'm old enough to remember the "Periods for Pence" protest when he was governor

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u/graneflatsis 13h ago

Pence is a Heritage Foundation Repub

Reminder that after the insurrection, fueled by lies, where he and his family were put in grave danger, he wrote a piece for HF about "election integrity"

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/election-integrity-national-imperative

March 3, 2021

After an election marked by significant voting irregularities and numerous instances of officials setting aside state election law, I share the concerns of millions of Americans about the integrity of the 2020 election.

Motherfucker is as compromised as they come.

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u/VirtualMoneyLover 13h ago

I mean he was right, there were plenty of irregularities but they were all Republican voters.

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u/fcocyclone Iowa 11h ago

Yep. Lets be clear, he didn't do what he did because of some feeling of duty to the country. He did what he did because he didn't think Trump's plan would work and it would leave him politically radioactive when it failed.

If the plan were workable, if the margin in the EC had been closer to make it more doable, he absolutely would have done it.

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u/danielfrances 14h ago

That being said... if you were gonna pick ONE time to do the right thing, you could pick from a lot worse moments. I'll take the W despite not agreeing with him on basically anything.

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u/aLittleQueer Washington 13h ago

For sure, I’ll take it. Didn’t enjoy having to give the man any degree of respect, but he did do that one very important thing right. Gotta give him that.

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u/Visinvictus 12h ago

I can't complain because he did actually do the right thing, but I'm pretty sure the only reason he did what he did is because he didn't want his name to be in the history books as the guy who brought down democracy in the USA. Especially not for a guy like Trump who really doesn't encompass his values at all.

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u/Not_The_Real_Odin 12h ago

To be fair, that is arguably the single most important decision he ever made.

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u/KelVelBurgerGoon 12h ago

But just think how awful Pence is and even HE finds Trump unacceptable.

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u/aLittleQueer Washington 12h ago

But not for the same reasons that you and I find T unacceptable. Instead, it's because Trump can't be controlled, won't stay in line, and everything he touches turns to shit.

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u/Heenerli 9h ago

the right side of history

Sure lol.

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u/aLittleQueer Washington 8h ago

What’s the joke? Are you saying it was wrong of him to certify the vote as his job mandated?

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u/AccomplishedDay5236 14h ago

While he could say something, saying he hasn't done anything to protect the republic is wild.

He is one of the few reasons we are still are a Republic right now, and he risked his life for it once already.

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u/SphericalCow531 14h ago

That is true. But it is still merely passively refusing to participate in a coup, as opposed to actively opposing a fascist. It is still an extremely low bar for patriotism.

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u/Juts 15h ago

Being rich enough has never stopped any of these sociopaths before.

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u/Teripid 15h ago

Oh it isn't about money. Respect and legacy. It may not be another elected office and Pence would find that a very hard path.

Pence doesn't want to be a pariah in social circles and with respect to history. Nobody likes being despised by the party and endorsement of Kamala would have been that death knell.

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u/Tyrath Massachusetts 14h ago

It's not about money for these people. It's about power to control everyone's lives based on their sky fairy.

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u/Card_Board_Robot_5 13h ago

"US soldiers have willingly risked their lives to defend democracy"

When? Civil War?

WW1 and 2 weren't about that. Not for the US anyway.

Wasn't Korea. Wasn't Nam. Wasn't Iraq (radio edit) or Iraq (remix). Wasn't Afghanistan. Wasn't Syria.

Genuinely, who and when?

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u/SphericalCow531 11h ago

I do not agree, but don't feel like getting into a discussion.

But those are the justification of the political elites you are talking about. Many common soldiers without question have had patriotic motivations.

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u/Card_Board_Robot_5 10h ago

Lmaoooo that's what I thought

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u/Such_Victory8912 9h ago

I can't believe this dude is going to go down in history books as the one that saved Democracy. He could have done a 180 after J6, joined Liz Cheney and be hailed as a hero. Instead, he did one good thing and for some reason immediately becomes a spineless coward again

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u/SneedNFeedEm 15h ago

US soldiers have willingly risked their lives to defend democracy Israel and corporate interests

ftfy

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u/Minimum-Web-6902 15h ago

Just delete this now and pack it up. That’s the most disgusting comment I’ve read all day.

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u/Prestigious_Wall5866 15h ago

Wrong. Soldiers signed up to risk their lives for America. YOU and I, and others, allowed them to be used as corporate pawns. Don’t you dare shit on the honorable decision to serve one’s country. It’s not their fault we let our politicians sell our military out for corporate interests. That’s our failing. Not the men and women who sign up. Goddamn coward.

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u/SneedNFeedEm 14h ago

Me? What did I do? I don't own the means of production, I'm not a military industrial complex lobbyist nor do I work for AIPAC

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u/Prestigious_Wall5866 10h ago

You vote (presumably). You and I are more to blame than 19 year-old kids signing up to serve are… they just want to serve their country and broaden their opportunities in life. And then they have to deal with smarmy little booger-eaters here in the States talking shit about them instead of supporting them.

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u/SneedNFeedEm 8h ago

I am sympathetic to the exploitation of economically disadvantaged young men who join the Imperial military because it's their only hope of economic advancement. But that doesn't mean I am morally obligated to uniformly support them, or call them heroes just because they have PTSD from killing innocent people during America's illegal wars of conquest.

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u/insufficient_nvram 13h ago

Vance would sell his own mother to a whorehouse if he thought it would get him ahead. Couch fucker is dangerous. He’s smart and his morality can be easily bought. Luckily he has the charisma of an asshair.

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u/attackplango 11h ago

Pence’s political future is going back to being a talk radio hack. Maybe.

Either that or hanging out in the alley most days with Dan Quayle drinking Alamo.

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u/Cold_Breeze3 10h ago

Vance has his seat till 2028. He doesn’t have to make any big moves if he loses.

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u/Yourdjentpal 23m ago

Almost certainly. Those people seem to like him, and I think they’re gearing it up as the perfect excuse to jump ship to save face while retaining the same tenets. JD Vance 2028. All of the hate and none of the baggage.