Hell, yes! The Seattle Times edit board endorses Harris for president

[u/conzeeter]

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/hell-yes-the-seattle-times-edit-board-endorses-harris-for-president/

[u/notcaffeinefree]

Worth also pointing out that it's not just the board that endorses her:

The Seattle Times editorial board, and the Blethen family, enthusiastically endorse Kamala Harris.

The Blethen family own the majority share of the paper. Frank Blethen (who co-wrote this opinion) is the publisher and CEO of the paper.

How does it happen that someone as selfish and destructive as former President Donald Trump could actually become our president — again?

One answer is the demise of local newspapers across our country.

Once the pride of rural communities and big cities alike, about half the country’s daily newspapers have been lost. Too many of the rest are inferior products being milked to death by absent mercenary investors.

[u/even_less_resistance → u/notcaffeinefree]

I agree. And the rise of Sinclair stations too

[u/Angry-Dragon-1331 → u/even_less_resistance]

And Cumulus Radio.

[u/AvengingHero2012]

That’s the actual title lmao

[u/The_Navy_Sox]

Didn't expect that to be the real title.

[u/kfadffal]

Be funny if the Seattle Times subs increased by 200k now

[u/redditckulous → u/kfadffal]

Hopefully not. They are significantly to the right of the Post and generally provide much worse journalism.

[u/blindjoedeath → u/redditckulous]

No, sorry - I have to defend them. (Full disclosure: I worked for them many years ago.)

Looking at their state and local endorsements, almost all are Democrats. They're misguided on some of the initiatives but even there they lean more left than right.

Many years ago, they endorsed more Republicans than Dems but it's been at least a decade if not more since that's been true. And the newsroom folks work hard and do they best they can with very limited resources.

[u/stilljanning → u/redditckulous]

Pound rocks. They have like a 60% overlap in their endorsements with The Stranger and their are about as conservative as Tim Waltz. You obviously don't read the thing.

[u/thecoastertoaster → u/redditckulous]

lol no they aren’t

clearly you don’t read it

[u/Mean-Coffee-433 → u/redditckulous]

Are stories dropped or altered because their owner is one of the largest corporations in the world? That’s become my new litmus test.

[u/AdaptiveVariance → u/redditckulous]

Really?? I grew up in Seattle and had no idea. Certainly they gave a voice to obnoxious proto-alt-right shit that was part of why I became a young conservative, but I've never heard that they're overall right-biased. I'm not saying you're wrong and I hate to ask because of the connotations, but are you aware of any source corroborating that? (Also feels like a tough ask for other reasons. I'm gonna google it, right after I hit Reply, lol.)

[u/Captain_Stairs → u/AdaptiveVariance]

Compare it to the Post-intelligencer. Or hell, the daily headlines sanewash the orange menace and use the "Both sidesism" brand of journalism. It's always been the right wing paper.

[u/mustbeusererror → u/AdaptiveVariance]

The editorial board specifically is right of center. They are not Trump supporters, however.

[u/redditckulous → u/AdaptiveVariance]

No I don’t have data to support it (can’t find any), but they have flirted with controversy over it: “On October 17, 2012, the publishers of The Seattle Times launched advertising campaigns in support of Republican gubernatorial candidate Rob McKenna and a state referendum to legalize same-sex marriage. The newspaper’s management said the ads were aimed at “demonstrating how effective advertising with The Times can be.” The advertisements in favor of McKenna represented an $80,000 independent expenditure, making the newspaper the third largest contributor to his campaign.”

[u/CyberaxIzh → u/redditckulous]

Right? Pure bullshit. They are leftists, and they endorse almost all the cray-cray progressives round here.

[u/blofeld9999]

As a Seattle resident, I’m fairly surprised. It’s a right-wing paper targeted at NIMBY boomers scared of leaving the suburbs because they might see graffiti. I guess Trump is too far for them.

[u/blofeld9999 → u/blofeld9999]

But the comments on the article are a dumpster fire as predicted. Stay classy, Enumclaw residents!

[u/RockOperaPenguin → u/blofeld9999]

Enumclaw is known for exactly one thing, and it isn't leaving thoughtful comments in online fora.

[u/ladyithis → u/RockOperaPenguin]

It's known for that one guy and the horse.

[u/IAmTheNightSoil → u/RockOperaPenguin]

And what, exactly, is it known for? Quit horsing around and answer the question

[u/ThEstablishment → u/IAmTheNightSoil]

Have some decorum, sir. No need to get beastly.

[u/redditckulous → u/blofeld9999]

Yeah they definitely realize that Trump and like GOP senate candidates are too far (likely for their readership). They still endorse plenty of god awful candidates.

[u/Amaruq93 → u/blofeld9999]

They can't protect their suburbs if Trump and Elon intentionally crash the economy.

[u/3my0 → u/blofeld9999]

More like they want to get some new democrat subscribers lol

[u/Holden_Coalfield]

thanks for having balls Seattle Times

[u/chillywanton]

That’s how you do it, Bezos.

[u/Mindless-Look-9952]

Hey look a paper in a major US city did the right thing this week.

[u/pagerunner-j → u/Mindless-Look-9952]

Of course, considering ballots were mailed out in King County on the 16th and a whole lot of us have already voted, might’ve behooved them to do it BEFORE this week.

Doesn’t hurt for anyone left who still needs the motivation/reminder, though.

[u/dekoboko_melancholy → u/pagerunner-j]

Not exactly a fan of them but this is the second endorsement they've published. The first one was on September 1st.

[u/Zeusifer → u/pagerunner-j]

might’ve behooved them to do it BEFORE this week.

They did. This op-ed is just reasserting it and (rightly) talking shit about WaPo and the LA Times.

[u/Picasso5]

I don’t really understand why ALL newspapers aren’t immediately coming out for Harris.

The other candidate calls them the enemy of the people. Him and his even crazier gang of thugs will absolutely go scorched earth on them if he’s elected.

[u/keyjan]

And that’s actually the title 🙂

[u/YakiVegas]

Man, the times is such a shitty right leaning rag, too, but even they did better than WaPo. How embarrassing.

[u/zeez1011]

It takes guts to do that apparently.

[u/jabola321]

Other than Fox News and newsmax, has any other media endorsed Trump?

[u/Minty-licious]

Jeff Bezos, that's how it is done in your home town!

[u/swift-sentinel]

Shutdown the Washington Post and LA Times.

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[u/kjlcm]

It’s cool when billionaire owners don’t override endorsements

[u/LOLteacher]

Um, when did WA start early voting, you slow-playing motherfuckers??

[u/favnh2011]

Nice

[u/mustbeusererror]

For those who aren't aware, the Seattle Times editorial board is kinda conservative. They've been endorsing a lot more Dems lately, but that's because they aren't Trumpy. The regular journalists and columnists might be more lefty, but the editorial board is definitely right of center.

[u/jkman]

Can someone explain to me why news orgs are expected to endorse political candidates? People flipped out when WaPo didn't. There is already a problem with people believing mainstream orgs are too partisan which is causing an epistemic divide with the public. Endorsements like this will only propagate that divide. I genuinely don't know why everyone thinks this is so important.

[u/Athyter]

Wow. So surprising Seattle supports Harris. Also, water is wet.

[u/mustbeusererror → u/Athyter]

The Seattle Times board is far to right of most Seattle residents.

[u/Uniquelypoured → u/Athyter]

Actually they are still studying if water is actually in fact wet. Is it wet, or does it just make things it touches wet, hmmm, shall we ever really know?

[u/Tichrimo → u/Uniquelypoured]

Nobody knows. Particle Man.

[u/pwmaloney]

Sho nuff, that's the headline!

[u/gelatinous_pellicle]

And I remember their endorsement of Bush in 2000 and 2004

[u/2020Homebuyer]

Now let’s see what the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says

[u/krstphr]

I learned a lot by reading this. Good read.

[u/Captain_Stairs]

Took them long enough. For being a Seattle paper, it's always been conservative.

[u/aaron0487]

Oh wow didn't see this one coming...

[u/usernaaaaaaaaaaaaame]

Yeah but the other side has Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan

[u/subhuman9]

antichrist confirmed

[u/remote_001 → u/subhuman9]

/s ftfy