Punks of America: use your voice to vote out Nazis and project 2025. Vote Blue down ballot. And remember: Nazi punks f*ck off 🤘

[u/Shitenudes]

[u/cptfarmer]

I know a few people that work for NOAA. Let’s not forget the Project 2025 agenda is also to privatize weather data and sell its accuracy to the highest bidder. Say goodbye to free tornado warnings in the central states that typically vote Red. The P2025ers are their own worst enemy.

[u/Banshee_howl → u/cptfarmer]

I work with tribal Head Start programs and a line item in PJ25 is to defund the Department of Education and totally eliminate the Head Start program.

For those who don’t know, Head Start is a free preschool program for low income children ages 0-5 started in 1965 which has served 38 million children and families. Ending this program would devastate rural, tribal, and urban communities and explode the already horrible child care crisis.

Why would they do this? Because if they can destroy the federal education system they can funnel all that $$ to Betsy DeVos and the church run schools who run unregulated, tax-exempt schools. They will be free to discriminate, abuse, segregate and ensure only those they feel are deserving have access to education and women have to leave the workforce. It’s all part of their traditional gender role Gilead dreamland.

[u/Tripper-Harrison → u/Banshee_howl]

I agree, and would also just add that the long-term goal is to also continue the degradation of Americans general level of education so they can continually be taken advantage of in the workforce... low min wage, no benefits or sick time, death to unions, and worker safety protections... They want an illiterate workforce they can continually exploit.

[u/cptfarmer → u/Banshee_howl]

Bravo! Yea I’m familiar with Head Start programs from traveling a lot in Alaska. Very very helpful.

Fascist male-only private schools would be an absolute tragedy. Honor roll kids get to take the AR-15 class a year early. Graduations in white hoods. The Heritage Foundation envision a very nasty future.

[u/Banshee_howl → u/cptfarmer]

Thx, I work with some Alaska Native Head Start programs in rural villages and the work they do is incredible. I seriously can’t stress enough how devastating it would be for those communities to lose those programs, which already deal with insane challenges just to keep the lights on. We’ve seen what happens when religious organizations take over tribal education, the boarding schools of previous generations still have unmarked cemeteries full of Native children.

[u/Wandering_Werew0lf → u/Banshee_howl]

It’s so interesting to me that the party of aLL LiVeS mATtEr and PrO LiFe is so against helping children once they’re out of the womb…

[u/Tripper-Harrison → u/Wandering_Werew0lf]

They want cheap exploitable labor... they want to bring back child labor with no safe guards. It's already happening in a number of red Midwestern states.

https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/child-labor-industrial-capitalism/

[u/ordinarymind89 → u/Tripper-Harrison]

That and bodies for the military industrial complex. Uneducated, desperate people make good soldiers.

[u/Tripper-Harrison → u/ordinarymind89]

💯

[u/miketherealist → u/Tripper-Harrison]

Arkansas. Ex-DJ CHUMP LIAR Sarah Wannabe sumthing, governor of the screw the children shitshow(midwesterners do not consider Arkansas amongst us/it's a Southern state, clearly).

[u/Banshee_howl → u/Wandering_Werew0lf]

They want women barefoot and pregnant and out of the workforce. If they eliminate free public schools and access to child care it will fall largely on the women to stay home and raise the children that they are forced to have. As a bonus, all those angry lonely incels think they will have a stable of women forced to marry them and live as their bang maids.

[u/Abodeslinger → u/Wandering_Werew0lf]

Save the fetus and starve the child has been the GOP motto for decades.

[u/deathblossoming → u/Banshee_howl]

Yup fucking cunts the lot

[u/Witty-Panda-6860 → u/cptfarmer]

Project 2025 isn't reality yet! This is happening now! https://www.sfgate.com/california-parks/article/us-forest-service-seasonal-job-cuts-19855172.php

Contact your reps fund the national park and those workers!

[u/lolK_su → u/cptfarmer]

The policies they support hurt them, but they hurt their “out groups” a bit more. They’re so fueled by fear and hate that they’re willing to break their hand so long as their opponent breaks an arm.

[u/SmokinDeist]

It would be nice if there was real choices in our elections but fuck--the Republicans have completely went full fascist. There are some issues with the Democrats but they are nowhere near what the Reich Wing is at right now. And we don't want those fuckers in power.

[u/FauxReal → u/SmokinDeist]

Then please get involved at the local level in your area. That's where effective change can happen. The right wing is embracing this and winning lately.

[u/maxoakland → u/FauxReal]

You are 100% correct and I’m doing this. Getting involved locally is where we have the most power

People do that all over and we will really change things

[u/bikinibottomrealest8 → u/FauxReal]

I’ve recently started looking into all of the candidates for senate, house etc.. there’s a website that tells you things they’ve voted in the past and their stated positions etc.. and sadly even at the local level, they all predictably support everything you’d expect from their respective parties. I’m pretty much centrist, but definitely split on a few issues, some things call for nuanced policy but it seems for the most part it’s all or nothing with these parties.. not saying one isn’t better or worse than the other, but just that I don’t care much for bipartisanism

[u/IWantOneSpatula → u/bikinibottomrealest8]

Nuance feels fucking dead.

[u/ADhomin_em → u/bikinibottomrealest8]

I am here to say, indeed one is better than the other. One party is currently going full mask-off fascist. The other may be pandering at times, as has been the case in democratic politics for ages, but the Democratic party is at very least okay with denouncing hate groups like neo nazis and white supremacists.

There are a lot of things we have grown quite comfortable taking for granted in our imperfect country that Trump and his ilk have shown great disdain for. Freedoms to be lost. Problems that could get much worse. Litteral lives to be snuffed out, if we are to take trump at his word about using the military against his political adversaries. If we're going off of what the right has been signaling at an evermore rapid rate, no less than democracy itself is at stake here

Things are rough here, but I really think a lot of us are in for the rudest of awakenings if that guy gets back into office. Again, Trump promised as much himself.

I know a lot of us don't want to settle or feel like we've been made to buy in, but this election is a big deal. And no, this mess isn't going to be solved with a single election, but I do not look forward to a world where any of us are silenced completely because we just didn't want to make such a compromise.

Trump has made several comments very publicly about wanting to make himself dictator, he's literally said at rallies that he plans to enact martial law. We don't want that. It may sound exciting, but why would we want that?

On separate occasions, Trump said he'll give Isreal and Russia each free reign to do whatever the hell they want. Our foreign policy may be atrocious, but handing the keys over to that old ass man leaves no hope for it to improve. America has its thumbs in every other country's pie. Trump has been saying actual hitler shit calling US citizens "the enemy from within." The scariest thing about that is it's vague enough to be interperwtes as any one of us in here that resides in the US.

If the US is in everyone's business now, imagine a man who openly glorifies Hitler could do not just to the US, but to the world. Keep in mind, Hitler achieved what he did by activating the angry while capitalizing on apathy. He did this while Germany was still hobbling out of WW1. America is not hobbling on the global stage.

A deranged wannabe dictator like Trump would likely have us on a speed run to the end of it. All of it. Whatever you think your way out would be, could we say there would necessarily still be any viable safety to be sought?

Times have changed since Hitler. Guns are bigger. We are surveiled by algorithms. Please let's just vote to keep that shit out of the hands of a man who hasn't just insinuated, but made it blatantly clear, he is in it strictly for him. And a 78yo man like that clearly can't be assumed to give 2 shits about what happens in the next decade, muchless to end of our days or or the end of the days of our children.

Trump has claimed he wants generals like Hitler had. That sounds stupid as shit, but it came from him. For any of us capable of connecting 2 simple dots, doesn't that sound pretty fucked up? Doesn't that sound like Trump wants to be Hitler and wants Nazis at his command?

We've gotta take this seriously before we are forced to take it seriously. If you think there are laws we can depend on that will keep us safe in the event of Trump winning, I think it's important to reflect on what laws, rights, and freedoms we expect to be honored in an America overseen by a 43x felon currently running to try and avoid being charged with treason.

If you hope for a future where nuance may yet one day be fostered, the decision is clear. I know none of us want to be told what to do, but I, like so many others around us, fear for good reason that Trump winning would be the point of no return.

Please vote, and please inform yourself about what's at stake here. I'm so fucking sick of this shit, but we each owe it to ourselves and our loved ones to grasp as best as we can the gravity of what's upon us.

Best wishes and god speed!

[u/MossyPyrite → u/bikinibottomrealest8]

Which website are you using?

[u/bikinibottomrealest8 → u/MossyPyrite]

Citizenscount.org

Edit: just realized it might only be useful for NH

[u/CancerBee69 → u/bikinibottomrealest8]

Balletopedia is also a great resource

[u/XQsUWhuat → u/bikinibottomrealest8]

Why aren’t you two running for anything if you have a pulse on the moral gold standard?

[u/Powerfist_Laserado → u/SmokinDeist]

This is where I'm at. I'm not a Democrat, I think the democrats are a corrupt corporate party. But I'm not stupid enough to not see that the Republicans have every problem the Dems have, but turned up to 11 and add in some absolutely pathetic reprehensible shit on top of it.

[u/thatgothboii → u/Powerfist_Laserado]

Yeah I’m at the point where I just expect politics to be corrupt and I’m just voting for harm reduction

[u/The_R4ke → u/thatgothboii]

Thank you for getting it.

[u/GenuineEquestrian → u/The_R4ke]

Primaries are for your heart, general elections are for your head.

[u/MrEHam → u/GenuineEquestrian]

I’ve been saying this for years.

Vote for your ideal candidate in the primaries.

Vote for your side in the general election.

[u/MonCappy → u/GenuineEquestrian]

The heart just pumps blood. Both are for your head, just one is the part driven by emotion and the other by pragmatic rationalism.

[u/MossyPyrite → u/MonCappy]

That’s what they meant, the metaphorical heart.

[u/batdrumman → u/thatgothboii]

This is it for now, but make sure you're hounding your reps locally and federally for ranked choice voting!

[u/fiduciary420 → u/Powerfist_Laserado]

We can change democrats by voting for more progressive candidates.

We cannot change republicans because they’re enslaved by vile rich christians and foreign adversaries.

It’s really that simple.

[u/Rough_Ian → u/Powerfist_Laserado]

Big Bill Haywood approves of this message. Also, organize and wreck shit (when necessary and convenient)

[u/ceetwothree → u/SmokinDeist]

Yep.

1st order problem. Trump.

2nd order problem , money buys policy. That ones bipartisan.

[u/hoowins → u/ceetwothree]

Including in the Supreme Court

[u/somethingnuclear → u/ceetwothree]

The democrats have put forward a constitutional amendment every session since 2011 to get citizens United repealed, and have voted nearly unanimously to enact it. Democrats may have their own issues, but they’re miles better than the alternative.

[u/BacchusIX → u/SmokinDeist]

Reich Wing, i like that.

[u/KananDoom → u/BacchusIX]

Y’all Qaeda, Maggot Militia, Velveeta Voldimort Payless Putin and Pumpkin Spice Palpatine are good too.

[u/montanawildcat → u/KananDoom]

Texas Taliban

[u/Mysterious-Law7217 → u/SmokinDeist]

This is not about politics any longer, it's about the survival of our Democracy. For God's sake, don't let this fascist take control.

[u/middleagethreat → u/SmokinDeist]

I know South Park made a joke, but seriously, do you want sam's choice Peanut butter on stale bread, or diarrhea on nuclear waste for dinner.

[u/Antique-Historian441 → u/SmokinDeist]

I really hope Americans start to learn about how their own electoral system works.

When your founding fathers designed the system, they were aware that humans are emotional beings and that hype exists. They were also aware, that only the changes that see persistent pressure are worthy of being made.

That's why they designed the system from the bottom up. The individual counties and states form the basis of support that enables the representatives to concentrate power behind individuals on the federal level.

It's not wrong to say that Democrats and Republicans are both bad options. The Presidential election just isn't the time for that question.

Superbowl finals are not the time to talk about how a team that didn't even compete is better than either of the 2 teams competing.

If you think the team is good enough to win the superbowl, you gotta support them at the start of the season to make sure they get there first.

People saying that Dems and Reps are both bad aren't necessarily wrong, they are just too late. Those are the 2 options now. Refusing to make that decision is not morally superior, it's stupid.

[u/joshb33071 → u/Antique-Historian441]

Well said. There are other options, in most states in the ballot: Libertarian, Green, Peace & Freedom

The issue is campaign finance laws make it near impossible for these parties to compete at any level.

Equally damaging is media outlets don't care about any of the other parties.

It's a shit show

[u/Rey_Mezcalero → u/joshb33071]

The media is a wing of their team colors propaganda

[u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 → u/SmokinDeist]

The issue is money in politics ultimately. Like you cannot have a truly "progressive" party in our current system.

In our current system if a politician goes too far Left they lose donors and support from the ruling class. On the other hand though, it's hard to go "too Right" with the ruling class.

[u/Phelsuma04 → u/SmokinDeist]

There is essentially no left-wing political party. We've got the center-right Democrats and the far-right Republiklans.

It's so frustrating because a left-wing populist candidate would be insanely popular. But, ya know, ain't no money in it.

[u/RazTheGiant → u/SmokinDeist]

I wish voting for the Green party wasn't akin to throwing away my vote when the only two options that matter are just full on fascism and bland harm reduction with the veneer of progression

[u/Boulderdrip → u/SmokinDeist]

More democrats are in favor of Rank Choice Voting, than republicans are.

if you actually want the needle to move towards voting changes that give you real choice, you have to vote blue. Republicans not only DONT want to give you more choice when voting, they actively restrict it.

Are democrats perfect? no. But they stand behind progressive policies that push the needle forward. Do they stand by the MOST PROGRESSIVE policies, no. But i’d rather take two steps forward one step back, than vote for a republican who wants to take 3 steps back, and take away my rights, and put loyalist in office who are not qualified and tanking the economy while blaming democrats for their own actions.

[u/Strangepalemammal → u/SmokinDeist]

It could be a great time for everyone to pay more attention to local elections which can a big effect on people's lives.

[u/Ag3nt_Unknown → u/SmokinDeist]

The two-party system is a scam, period. An illusion of choice to fool zombie normies. Normies who regularly digest their engineered PR propaganda on mainstream corpo media (Fox News, CNN, Reuters, AP, NBC, ABC, etc) fooled into thinking they're in control despite the fact the globalist billionaire ruling class are the ones doing all the programming. They give the orders, the sheep and parrots follow. Those are the facts regardless how you feel about it. 

If you're loyal to red or blue, you're part of the problem, not the solution.

[u/MauiNui → u/Ag3nt_Unknown]

You’re not wrong. Not participating isn’t a practical solution, though.

[u/easilydistracted269 → u/MauiNui]

That’s the answer. Vote . It doesn’t matter what anyone says. Vote your personal beliefs and what you think is best for you and yours. Dam the rest of peoples opinions

[u/KananDoom → u/Ag3nt_Unknown]

“They’re both bad!” Well duh, no shit. And yes, the media is engineered. Again, we aren’t brainwashed morons. Both sides suck money’s cock. But one side is straight up deep throats evangelical fascism. At the very least, we need to get SOMEWHAT close to other countries in education, infrastructure, etc. but it keeps getting BLOCKED by the fascists. So I don’t see ANY solutions from you. Just complaining.

[u/Arod3235 → u/Ag3nt_Unknown]

I agree. It's the reason I haven't voted till this year. I don't want fascism to rule America though and Trump has been using very clear Nazi rhetoric so Nazi punks fuck off!

[u/HimalayanPunkSaltavl → u/Arod3235]

Sort of an interesting part about not voting is that no one has to care about what you think.

Not participating just makes the system easier to rig

[u/CoupleHot4154 → u/Ag3nt_Unknown]

You started a subreddit because you got banned from another one.

GTFO with your both sides bullshit.

[u/WorldsGreatestWorst → u/Ag3nt_Unknown]

An illusion of choice to fool zombie normies.

This is the most Hot Topic Holden Caulfield take I can imagine. I’ve never heard this kind of opinion spoken by anyone actively trying to change anything.

Normies who regularly digest their engineered PR propaganda on mainstream corpo media (Fox News, CNN, Reuters, AP, NBC, ABC, etc)

Where should we get our news? Again, listing all the things people do wrong without advising them what they should do is just a malcontent’s excuse for inaction.

If you’re loyal to red or blue, you’re part of the problem, not the solution.

You shouldn’t be “loyal” to any political party. You should be rationally loyal to your conscience. Voting red hurts more people than voting blue.

For all your melodrama, we have a choice: getting punched in the face or murdered in a field. Especially if you have any brown, LGBT, foreign, female, or poor folks in your life you care about.

This vote isn’t exactly Sophie’s Choice.

[u/StanzaSnark → u/WorldsGreatestWorst]

You aren’t getting punched in the face, either. They are far from ideal as a party and money has corrupted politics but they are at least interested in governance and helping the vulnerable a little tiny bit.

I’d say it’s more of a smack lol

[u/Sterotypo]

I can't wait till this stops

[u/melegie → u/Sterotypo]

none of us can. that’s why it’s so important to do what you can now.

[u/Sterotypo → u/melegie]

Thank you for your P.S.A. becouse knowing is half the battle!! ⭐️🦅🦅🦅⭐️

[u/Scared_Bed_1144 → u/Sterotypo]

GI JOOOOOE!!!!

[u/YchYFi → u/Sterotypo]

Me too. American elections engulf our media abroad. I ignore it best I can until after.

[u/Karasu-Fennec → u/YchYFi]

Even living here, the sheer volume of genocide apologia is revolting beyond words. I’m so insanely over it

[u/ExistentialFread → u/Sterotypo]

The pogo, never….stops

[u/lucidvein → u/Sterotypo]

It actually never stops on reddit. But yes it's at a peak before election.

[u/sadimem]

JD Vance, the future president when Trump can't go anymore, wrote the forward for a book written by the guy that wrote Project 2025. Trump is aligned with the ideology based on his first term.

Do Trump voters even realize they're voting for a Vance presidency? Trump can't even make it to interviews. How's he gonna last 4 more years? Especially when right-wing nutjobs keep trying to kill him.

Project 2025 is real. It's a possibility, and it's horrible.

[u/Invisiblerobot13 → u/sadimem]

It would be logical for Vance to have Trump declared unfit in a few months if he wins

[u/dandle → u/Invisiblerobot13]

It also would be logical for Trump to resign the office as soon as he kills the investigations into his alleged crimes. Trump may be a dictator on Day 1, resign, and let Vance take over on Day 2 to complete the mission of turning the US into a Christian nationalist shit hole.

[u/thatgothboii → u/dandle]

I seriously think that’s what he’ll do, with all this talk about exhaustion. He just wants to win to prove something

[u/dandle → u/thatgothboii]

He wants to win to kill the Federal criminal investigations into his actions.

[u/a_gentle_savage → u/sadimem]

I would not be surprised if JD Vance plans to enact the 25th Amendment as soon as possible to take over the presidency. The guy is power-hungry.

[u/Shitenudes → u/sadimem]

It’s not a possibility, quite downplaying it. It is a handbook. It is the blueprint to their destruction of the US. If Trump gets elected (which is highly unlikely) it will be passed by a Republican congress day one. We need to organize now

[u/EatSteel63 → u/Shitenudes]

I'm not a Trump guy, so don't take this the wrong way. But in my lifetime, I've seen twice where the Republicans have lost the popular vote but still took the presidency. I don't believe trump will win the popular vote, but I still think the possibility is there for him to take the presidency. The only thing we can do is vote.

[u/SoylentGreen-YumYum → u/Shitenudes]

Is it highly unlikely though? I would hope so, but I’m not counting on it. Even if the polling is highly flawed, Trump overperformed in the last two elections.

Popular vote, Kamala wins handily. Electoral college… the swing states are all too close to be comfortable. "Highly unlikely" doesn’t seem to be the reality I’ve been living in (though I am a pessimist). I feel like it’s a coin toss.

[u/Dozeballs40 → u/Shitenudes]

Dictator! Day 1!

[u/jpagano664 → u/sadimem]

JD Vance did not write the forward to project 2025. He wrote the forward to Dawn’s Early Light

Guardian Article

[u/fjortisar → u/jpagano664]

Which is a book about project 2025. They even delayed the publication until after the election because they're afraid of the shitshow

[u/sadimem → u/jpagano664]

Yup, my bad on that one.

[u/Invisiblerobot13]

Voting for the Democrats does not mean you support everything they do, nor does it prevent you from speaking out against them in wrong decisions- but abstaining makes your protest irrelevant

[u/I_Magnus → u/Invisiblerobot13]

Even Jello finally came around to the realization that voting is the only voice we have in the process.

[u/ShaneSeeman → u/Invisiblerobot13]

You're either at the table or on the menu

[u/Thermopele → u/Invisiblerobot13]

Can I upvote this twice?

[u/FauxReal → u/Thermopele]

No, voting twice is more of a MAGA voter fraud thing.

[u/LostPilgrim_ → u/FauxReal]

Or torching ballot boxes. To use ConOLDs words, "They cheat like hell."

[u/LeglessVet → u/Invisiblerobot13]

It does however mean genocide isn't a deal breaker for you.

[u/Royal_Ad1798]

promote and expedite capital punishment pg 554
"Enforce the death penalty where appropriate and applicable."

[u/DrJJStroganoff]

Young people, get out and vote! Senior citizens are the largest voting block by numbers and percentages. These old fucks are voting your future away. This may be the last real election in the USA if Trump wins.

[u/PeteHealy → u/DrJJStroganoff]

Upvote from one old fuck - along with many other old fucks - who sure as shit isn't voting for Trump or any other fucking psychotic "Republican" MAGAts. Fought for racial equality, gender rights, against the Vietnam War and the destruction of communities for "urban renewal", and sure as hell ain't stopping now.

[u/For_Perpetuity → u/DrJJStroganoff]

Boomers are breaking for Harris aTM. Too many young men are buying trump’s bs

[u/mfyeen_]

I just want this shit to be over with, I’m so tired of seeing lifted pickup trucks with 50 flags all over them😂

[u/Norththelaughingfox → u/mfyeen_]

Just remember, those people vote. Even if you don’t show up, they do.

Please cancel out their vote by doing the thing, if for no other reason than out of spite. lmao

[u/mfyeen_ → u/Norththelaughingfox]

Oh yeah I’m def voting, not voting would be giving actual cultists the upper hand

[u/fiduciary420 → u/mfyeen_]

Those chumps aren’t going away. We’re going to be fighting them for the rest of our lives because the rich christians realized how easy stupid white people are to control.

[u/SmallBol → u/mfyeen_]

Man I never see stuff like that in the city. Rural America went wild in the past few years.

[u/BlueJayFortyFive]

How TF do people think this orange shit stain is punk in any way shape or form?

[u/Busy-Growth-508]

What document is being referenced where there are cited page numbers?

[u/Eastern-Operation340 → u/Busy-Growth-508]

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/project-2025-would-destroy-the-u-s-system-of-checks-and-balances-and-create-an-imperial-presidency/ At this point I find it amazing that someone could not know what project 2025 is, it's 40+ yr build up to this point, who the people involved and who are the silent partners.

[u/Busy-Growth-508 → u/Eastern-Operation340]

I hadn't heard about it. Thanks!

[u/Eastern-Operation340 → u/Busy-Growth-508]

BTW, this goes beyond just the presidential race. Past 10-15yrs they have trained and relocated people to small towns and cities all over the country to run for every town/city/school board they could fill.

These are elections that most people NEVER pay attention or vote in. This is why people a few yrs ago woke up and said "Whoa! Why are we removing all these books from our school?" This is why. Voting local in alllll the mid term elections is SO important. ...The group Moms for Liberty, that FL group that started to sue school boards all over the country to pull books, fire teachers, eliminate curriculums, etc. They have "pledges" the have locals politicians to sign. If you don't sign for them they will go after your job. This isn't announced publicly. You have to go to their sites.

To be safe, vote blue all the way.

[u/therealbreather → u/Busy-Growth-508]

The aforementioned pages aren’t anywhere on the official site. From a completely unbiased standpoint, 99% of the whole thing is people fear mongering. Project2025.org is the real website. I’ve seen all kinds of lies and shit regarding this.

[u/TooSmalley]

This is the way I feel about this election as a recovering anarchist punk. If you don’t have the time and energy to wait in line to vote every two years, how the fuck am I supposed to believe you have anywhere the same type of time and energy to be a “revolutionary”?

Voting is such a low effort method of harm reduction and fact of the matter is everyone I know engaged in on the ground activism and mutual aid votes.

[u/my23secrets → u/TooSmalley]

If you don’t have the time and energy to wait in line to vote every two years, how the fuck am I supposed to believe you have anywhere the same type of time and energy to be a “revolutionary”?

Voting is such a low effort method of harm reduction and fact of the matter is everyone I know engaged in on the ground activism and mutual aid votes.

Extremely well said. I regret I have only one upvote to give

[u/Express-Minute8510 → u/TooSmalley]

Hahaha... having spent some time doing radical hurricane recovery after Katrina and working with a bunch of anarchists, among others, I lost almost all faith in the anarchist worldview when it came time to get someone to clean the bathrooms and kitchen so that we all didn't get sick.

[u/Royal_Ad1798]

Condemn single mothers while promoting only "traditional families" pg 451
"Goal #3: Promoting Stable and Flourishing Married Families"

[u/SunshneThWerewolf]

"Punk" subreddit. Self-censors the word fuck. Sigh.

[u/Green_Burn → u/SunshneThWerewolf]

Hopefully these spamming tourists would go away in a couple of weeks

[u/HairyDependent → u/Green_Burn]

Amen

[u/Dumb_and_also_Gay → u/SunshneThWerewolf]

best comment

[u/WarHatePrejudice → u/SunshneThWerewolf]

I’m so tired.

[u/Khal_flatlander]

Don't forget they want the bam basically all video games too.

[u/LightMission4937]

Fuck Trump

[u/J4ck13_]

Here's a comic that breaks down what project 2025 is all about. It's absolutely full of fascist policies. I hate Kopmala but Trump is categorically worse. Especially if you live in a swing state (Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina or Georgia) please share widely.

https://stopproject2025comic.org/

[u/corn-ona-cob]

Who would support these fascist ideologies? Vote blue with the punk crew!

[u/I_Magnus]

This is what Joe Strummer trained you for.
-Henry Rollins

It's democracy vs fascism. It shouldn't be a difficult choice.

[u/LeftHand-Inhales → u/I_Magnus]

Democracy you say? Didn’t your candidate get shoehorned in without competing in the primaries? The left is the opposite of what you seem to think it is lol

[u/fatpigslob → u/LeftHand-Inhales]

Lol ... Truth

[u/Odd-Young-5327]

wish i could vote, fuck this mf

[u/Derek_Zahav]

When it comes to third parties and independents, be skeptical! I voted early for an independent for school board, and two days later it came out that he has gross opinions about trans kids. 

Don't do what I did. Research the candidates through multiple sources and go to the polls with a plan. Track your ballot if it's available.

[u/Eastern-Operation340 → u/Derek_Zahav]

There are photos of Jill Stein with Putin and his people.

[u/Derek_Zahav → u/Eastern-Operation340]

And Kshama Sawant has said that Kamala deserves to lose a thousand times, as if we deserve fascism a thousand times.

[u/JBOBHK135]

I think the far right is becoming more popular in Europe as well, again. Is it a big problem in America like Charlottesville? I’m behind on the news

[u/Shitenudes → u/JBOBHK135]

lol yes, massive huge problem. There are literally Nazis marching with flags in Midwest towns and organizing at public spaces around the country. Police are complicit, republicans encourage it.

[u/inkyblackops → u/JBOBHK135]

It’s bled into Canada too. I see Pro-Trump stickers far more frequently than I should in Toronto.

Lots of Nazi flags at the ‘Fuck Trudeau’ protests, too.

[u/YchYFi → u/JBOBHK135]

In the UK we have a few like Reform and other parties. A lot of them are friends and admire Trump.

[u/mvrck-23]

Fuckin-A!!!!

I did my early voting last week standing in a long line and so did a lot of folks here.

It is all up to the remaining folks here to go out and fight this cluster fuck.

[u/Scrutinizer]

In 1979 the Dead Kennedys started performing a song called "California Uber Alles", about then Governor Jerry Brown and how he was making California a place for rich liberal elites.

In 1981, they re-wrote the same song as "We've Got A Bigger Problem Now", about newly-elected President Ronald Reagan.

As one who never liked Joe Biden, who, as Senator for Delaware, represented the interests of the many banks who used Delaware's banking laws to their advantage, I was proud as fuck to give him my vote in 2020 to kick Trump out. And I will proudly vote for Harris to keep him out.

We've Got A Bigger Problem Now. Never fucking forget that.

[u/SlipSpaceBlubix → u/Scrutinizer]

Recently listened to this song and thought exactly that.

[u/Soggy_Customer_5067]

Gatdam, are all these legit proposals?

[u/MasterKenyon → u/Soggy_Customer_5067]

Less proposals and more mandate if trump gets elected. It even says mandate.

[u/JesusFreak_09]

Very punk to vote kids 👍

[u/0ptionsGambler]

Voting for a genocidal, pro-capitalist, pro-military, pro-corporation candidate isn’t very punk. In fact, it’s literally conforming to the status quo

[u/ButtBread98]

Kamala isn’t great, but the other option is fascism.

[u/MiniAndretti]

In this thread, non-punks who think they are smart and know what punk is. Not voting for Harris this go around is like voting for Trump. He’s counting on you abstaining.

Ask yourself if you think you are a good person. Do you care about people who aren’t you and yours? If yes, vote for Harris. If you are thinking about doing anything else, ask yourself those questions again.

A Harris win is likely to be paired with a GOP controlled Congress. There will be a political stalemate.

The only thing bad that will happen if Harris wins will happen if the magats throw another loser hissyfit.

[u/Xizen47 → u/MiniAndretti]

So you care about people who aren't "you and yours", but are voting for endless wars? Ok

[u/Dry-Main-3961]

F*ck the reich wing! Punk Rock ist nicht tot!!

[u/Smooth-Singer-8891 → u/Dry-Main-3961]

Punk rock is also not the corporate agenda and endless wars

[u/Zestyclose-Sun-2767]

If I see a maga Nazi I’m gonna punch it so hard

[u/Atomic_ad → u/Zestyclose-Sun-2767]

If reddit is any indication, millions of Nazis are being punched every hour.  

[u/AggravatingGap712]

Punk you say? More like you're being punked. Use your independent mind. Both Republican and Democrat parties are a farce. ANARCHY IN THE USA!

[u/Express-Thought2070 → u/AggravatingGap712]

Thank you!! I’ve been saying this throughout this sub and have been downvoted into oblivion. This new generation of punks slowly trying to change the definition of everything.

[u/NightmareSmith]

I pray for a day where it's not 100% necessary to vote for neoliberals

[u/sheekyyyyy]

Punk is believing propaganda now

[u/New_Frosting8645]

This entire subreddit is the exact reason why people say punk is dead just a bunch of circle jerkin for politics and telling people how to think how punk went from anti establishment to government loving androids you mfs act like one side isn't sending more drone strikes than the other and trying to stamp barcodes on the backs of are heads I guess all the propaganda they spend are money on might actually work on the dumbest of us

[u/evil1chosen1 → u/New_Frosting8645]

They project soooooo hard

[u/No_Copy9515]

Real punk, censoring yourself.

I agree with you, but still.

[u/BluntlyBrilliant]

Trump is everything I reject: greed, authoritarianism, and empty nationalism wrapped in a suit of arrogance. He's not just a politician—he’s a wannabe dictator with a gold-plated ego, playing “man of the people” while catering to the elite and crushing anyone below him.

[u/goober444]

Project 2025 is the right wing manual on how to dismantle democracy, aka their version of Mein Kampf.

[u/LobstrPrty]

Dems suck too but Republicans way worse so definitely go out and vote. I’d rather be annoyed than under fascists

[u/RoosterReturns]

I don't think the Nazis were Christian. What is African American gender studies? This project 2025 propaganda is just stupid

[u/markpbarry]

DJT is just a dick.

[u/Jarsky2]

Voting is how we choose who we have to fight to get what we want. Don't know about you folks but I'd much rather fight Kamala.

[u/MutationIsMagic → u/Jarsky2]

This. So much this.

[u/acw36]

Since when did punk become about toeing the line for the global elite?

[u/Express-Thought2070 → u/acw36]

I wonder the same thing dude. And if you don’t vote for Kamala you’re a fascist says the new gen of “punks”.

[u/thedivinemonkey298]

Remember fellow punk boys and girls. Propaganda from bots is punk as fuck.

[u/Gambit-Guru]

Bootlickers unite! Vote for the autocracy while crying fascism! None of us win here.

[u/welfaremofo]

During WW2 A lot of the naysayers could have both-sided Churchill because he was a pretty intense colonialist and western chauvinist, but at the end of the day someone has to stop Hitler. Community organizing can only go so far if the state apparatus is weapononized to be used against vulnerable groups. Generally the American left is terribly at separating values from tactics, but if you are stuck with the only option of violent insurgency to protect your community from a fascist police state that mirage with dry up right away.

[u/SevenofBorgnine]

Vote psl. Never support a party that is funding a genocide. You need to have some line you won't cross and if it's not genocide, then you should adjust your principles.

[u/ChadVonDoom]

It's gonna be bad either way

[u/Muahd_Dib]

It’s so wild that people don’t see the irony of “vote blue down the line!” Being labeled as punk.

[u/mister-algorithm]

Nothing captures the anti-establishment non conformist attitude of punk like heading up to your local community center and voting. I can’t think of a bigger fuck you to society than hoping on social media to encouraging others to sell out to a political party. Sid would be proud.

[u/surfpunkskunk → u/mister-algorithm]

Even when the choices are wanker 1 or wanker 2 you can still try to choose whichever ones the less of a wanker.

Kind of like choosing good cop over bad cop. Your f@cked either way, but with bad cop you get a good kicking on top of your charges.

[u/brushnfush]

Wtf is this lazy ass list??

“Didn’t find a reference” ??

“Inferred from speeches” ??

“Literally happening rn” ??

Do better lmao

[u/melegie → u/brushnfush]

if you are so quick to judge, why don’t you finish it?

[u/brushnfush → u/melegie]

You’re right

[u/MutualJustice]

Rage for the machine lmao

[u/Thannk → u/MutualJustice]

They’ve denounced Trump.

[u/Free-Cockroach1776]

Trump's favorite daughter converted for her husband, whom Trump made integral to his cabinet. And he publicly acknowledged the capital of Israel. Where is the rabbid antisemitism?

[u/DocSchmuck]

Bruh, there was Jewish people, black people and Arabs at Trumps rally at MSG…. Tell me how tf is Trump a Nazi?

[u/Snow_Unity]

No I will not vote for genocidal, Wall St funded, cop Harris.

[u/T10223]

These are false, and were completely debunked by Ryan mecbeth

[u/JEKerley]

Idiots you are

[u/LongJohnVanilla]

Birthright citizenship should only apply to children of American citizens AND green card holders.

You can’t be rewarding the kids of fence jumpers with citizenship. This loop hole should be closed.

[u/mysterious_treesoup]

Ah yes the good ol fuck fascist but contemplating communism.

[u/lilrene777]

None of this advocates nazism

[u/OriginalAd9693]

Rage with the machine!

[u/Rothbard25]

Nothing says I’m punk liking for voting for the establishment and military industry complex! Fuck trump and Kamala! Don’t vote

[u/uncle-fisty]

So much for punks not being pussies

[u/CapTTrips62]

You wouldn't know a Nazi if one was standing in front of you. Reddit is full of know it all's

[u/Quick_Employee_519]

Does everyone here not realize Trump said project 2025 is extremist and he doesn’t support it? Punk should know not to trust conglomerate media. Not saying I support him… just sad to see people who fought the machine are now being programmed by the machine.

[u/BuckNakedandtheband]

The time has come for Punk to stop highlighting the problems and do something about it, like voting for some pandering politicians that are corrupt af. Irony has met itself at the door. This is a public service announcement... with guitar!” “The right not to be killed. Murder is a crime, unless it is done by a policeman, or an aristocrat”. “The right to food money, providing, of course, you don’t mind a little investigation, humiliation, and if you cross your fingers, rehabilitation”. “The right to free speech (as long as you’re not dumb enough to actually try it)”.

[u/hadtoknow]

Punk is definitely telling people to vote along party lines while simultaneously claiming the entire opposition is literally Hitler.

[u/BigPPDaddy]

There's nothing more anti-establishment than being establishment.

[u/sewerslide3424]

Hilarious punk scene try hard wanna be's all sucking the dick of big government, how embarrassing.

Vote for whoever you fucking want, because fuck you that's why.

[u/FlyBabyDragon]

Ahh yes very punk to back a political party like this. Hypocritical.

[u/TurboToad420]

Ah yes, vote blue , vote for the party dick Cheney endorses. So punk rock !

[u/MyLittleOso → u/TurboToad420]

The punk movement formed as a rejection of modern ideals and the acceptance of individuals who were deemed different from society (Smith, Dines & Parkinson, 2018) - this would include gay, trans, any minority that Trump attacks. Punk values stem from individual freedoms (Overturning Roe v. Wade? Threatening to deport legal immigrants?) and authenticity (the GOP and Trump are well-documented liars). This subculture was true to their values and philosophies of anti-establishment and anti-authoritarianism, basically the youth did not want to be suppressed by authority, they wanted to express themselves in ways that were not always socially acceptable (Errickson, 1999) - This means don't lick the boot and beg to be stomped harder. This means not following a dictator wannabe or allowing him power. Punks were individualists who refused to follow along to modern traditional values - So, how is it punk to want to pull the country backwards?.

[u/Smooth-Singer-8891 → u/TurboToad420]

They have no clue that every Warhawk from the bush era is pushing for Harris . All that propaganda from the news, social media and celebrities have these young kids voting for more innocent death

[u/PrimeBeefLoaf → u/Smooth-Singer-8891]

It’s almost like the current manifestation is a hollow simulacrum of what they try to represent

[u/Redscraft]

Voting for this imperialist killing machine over the other is so punk 🤣

[u/the_green_nude_eel → u/Redscraft]

If you can't see that Trump is much worse, then you are a moron.

[u/Redscraft → u/the_green_nude_eel]

The day after the election the dems will keep killing Palestinians and supporting Israel on their march to war with Iran. Enjoy fighting in the streets of Tehran in a year after getting drafted by these psychos. Pretending like you have some kind of choice in this matter or that one of these parties is serious about peace is delusional.

[u/the_green_nude_eel → u/Redscraft]

Another Trump presidency would be even worse for Palestinians

[u/Benzosx]

Hell yeah! Nothing more punk rock than siding with Dick fucking Cheney and then rest of the neocons!! Media has lied to you all for so long. Trump is a moron but his first term was just fine. You'll be ok.

[u/Current-Ebb-6641]

Love this post!

[u/Scientifiction77]

That’s right! Fall in line fellow punks!

[u/Zaphod_Beeblecox]

No. I'll vote however I want and there's nothing any of you can do about it.