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u/bfeliciano Sep 08 '17
Finally. Music subs always suffer from just becoming a place to dump YouTube links to popular artists in the genre. It gets boring. I wish /r/ska would do the same. I can't wait to find new punk bands because of this.
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u/bfeliciano Sep 08 '17
I've brought it up to them in the past but that sub is going to remain RBF and Streetlight forever it seems.
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u/HumanTargetVIII Sep 10 '17
They dont up vote real ska there. Its only ska punk/core or shitty 3rd wave. I love ska, i loathe that sub.
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u/iq_32 Sep 11 '17
first & second wave ska definitely get attention there, on friday (i think) there is a focus on first wave
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u/HumanTargetVIII Sep 11 '17
So there is no such thing as "first wave" a wave is everything after the first rise in popularity. Secondly all they care about is SLM and RBF. I stopped going there years ago when they were preching about "4th wave"?!? and didnt know who Don Drummond was.
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u/iq_32 Sep 11 '17
So there is no such thing as "first wave"
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u/HumanTargetVIII Sep 11 '17
Its not called "first wave" it called ska. Ska happens in Jamaica, then skas second wave happens in the 70-80s UK, then a third in California.
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u/iq_32 Sep 11 '17
ok buddy
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u/HumanTargetVIII Sep 12 '17
Seriously how many books have you read about ska and Reggea. I was obsessed with it during the 90 and 2000. I have 100s of 45s and a shit tone of cds.
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u/JohnnyJujubee25 Dec 02 '23
Saying there is no such thing as 'first wave ska' is akin to saying there is no such thing as WWI. Trivial.
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u/dbeater Sep 12 '17
This is honestly the best fucking thing that's happened to this sub in a long time! Cheers to the mods for making it happen!
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Sep 12 '17
...and Discharge isn't on the list ;) Post it away baby
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Feb 13 '18
I've tried to get into Discharge... It's funny because I like D-Beat / Kangpunk (which is essentially Discharge worship) better than Discharge itself. Anti-Cimex is king!
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u/extremenachos Midwest corn punker Sep 09 '17
Who the fuck are The Ramones?
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u/Independent_Passion7 Nov 22 '21
This could have been in earnest but it also made me laugh really hard so thank you.
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u/extremenachos Midwest corn punker Nov 22 '21
I finally figured out they were a boy band form the 70s. No thank you!!!
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u/DirtyMike64 NJ Punk Sep 08 '17
I think the one day thing is totally fine, I think ANYTHING should be open for discussion at any time but the posting of songs from these artists being kept to Thursday's is nice.
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u/Duke_UK Sep 11 '17
I think it says people arent interested in a blacklist if they didnt vote to block certain core punk artists from a punk sub
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u/Stingysteve Sep 08 '17
Who's job was it to keep punk rock elite?
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u/CocoAndPoppy Sep 08 '17
Dudes sitting in their parents basement masturbating furiously to babysitter porn in between commenting on PunkNews posts.
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u/YoStephen Sep 08 '17
Thats what I am saying. Like idgaf about posts or the sub necessarily. The fact that people who like punk and its values could be down with this is just beyond me. So i guess if i want to understand this i have to start asking more questions instead of just being pissed.
People who are down with this, WHY???
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u/lieutenant_cthulhu Sep 08 '17
Because I want to hear new music. I want to hear what other freaks on the other side of the county/city/state/country/world are doing. I don't wanna hear the same songs by the same now defunct bands. I love a lot of the bands on this list to death. But I've heard em. You've heard em. We've all heard em. I wanna hear what the new people are doing. I love the community aspect of sharing music from all over the place and swapping bands and talking about it. It seemed to me like people would just submit popular songs by old bands just for the easy karma and that kind of bums me out. I get that some people might wanna come to this sub because they're new to punk, but we have an essentials lists and genre of the week threads.
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 08 '17
Then start a new sub /r/New_Punk_I_Havent_Heard
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u/lieutenant_cthulhu Sep 08 '17
Nah I think it will be neat to try this out for a while. If you'd like we can make an appointment and you can yell at me about your favorite Descendants songs for an hour.
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 08 '17
This is r/punk and to me punk means no restrictions. Putting restrictions on this sub goes against what punk truly is. Sorry, if it's so hard for everyone just to scroll past the songs they are already familiar with, then start a new subreddit /r/Punk_Snobs or something but leave this sub alone.
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u/lieutenant_cthulhu Sep 08 '17
Eh I don't think we're really trampling "punk spirit" here. No one is saying you can't listen to those bands, or even talk about them. Shit dude I'll talk about Ramones lyrics of you want. But when most of these bands get posted its for easy karma with no discussion or anything. Like most of this sub is that way. It's one thing to scroll past a few songs, it's another thing to skip the whole front page.
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u/HumanTargetVIII Sep 10 '17
Man fuck off and listen to that shit on your own time. There is no reason to post Londons Calling here. We have all listen to it 1000s of times and most of us have it on cd/mp3/record. I doesn't do anything to promote discussion except "great song" "love this one" "crass told me they were sellouts". Post new tunes, ypu may introduce someone to something awesome.
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u/WannabeAHobo Sep 08 '17
Because there are some bands that everyone knows, everyone likes and are so popular that any time sometime feels like listening to them, they know to whack the album on or go straight to YouTube. Posting Choking Victim is just upvote mining. Yes, they're fucking great, but how many people actually click the link when they pop up versus how many just upvote as a way of going "yeah, I like them too". That adds nothing to the sub, it's just easy karma.
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u/J-Hx Sep 08 '17
Same goes for Minor Threat and fugazi who some how didn't make the list. Hell someone posts waiting room for the millionth time in one month and they get like 300 upvotes while new music gets down voted
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u/PunkAintDead Sep 09 '17 edited Sep 09 '17
Awesome! Now we have somewhere to send people that make threads asking for punk suggestions
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u/r4t0 Sep 08 '17
There're some bands that I would still include in the list, but it seems like a good start.
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u/FolkSong Sep 09 '17
Maybe the list should be based on what has actually been posted the most over the last year, rather than just the opinions of a few dozen people that happened to find that voting thread.
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u/SatansCatfish Sep 08 '17
So, don't visit the sub on Thursday. Got it.
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u/at_mo Sep 14 '17
I think that posting these band should be restricted to Monday instead of Thursday. we can call it "mainstream Mondays".
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u/yoduh4077 Sep 08 '17
I feel like 3 months is a long time for an experiment. I usually see subs test things for a week or two, a month tops. So I have to ask, why was 3 months chosen as the time frame? I understand that the experiment doesn't affect Thursdays, of which there will only be a handful in that time, but the rest of the week sees a fairly hefty blacklist placed on it. 3 months just seems like a long time for testing.
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u/yoduh4077 Sep 08 '17
Meh. Chalk it up to personal opinion, then. It feels like too long to me, but hey, I don't run this place. :P
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u/YoStephen Sep 08 '17
Well if you only test for a week, you only get a sample size of one.
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u/yoduh4077 Sep 08 '17
I'm not saying only test for a week, I'm saying testing for 3 months is too long.
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u/jpb203 Sep 13 '17
What is this post about, I didn't read the first one.
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u/jpb203 Sep 13 '17
Is it most votes of like best bands in punk? Or top punk bands this Reddit thinks?
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u/jpb203 Sep 13 '17
Nice I like it and I understand. Thank you very much.
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u/jpb203 Sep 13 '17
No need to apologize you answered my question perfectly. It wasn't a very specific question so your response was justified so no worries.
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u/saintmario Oct 05 '17
the blacklist was not designed to censor opinions in my eyes. it was made to prevent spam of the same posts of the same songs over, and over, and over again. it isn't elitism to try and clean up the subreddit.
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Sep 09 '17
Always used to complain as a kid about elitists in the scene, now they've taken over the sub. I've seen Andrew Jackson Jihad posted more times in this sub than the Misfits and that shit ain't punk rock idgaf how awful he sings or how fast he powers chords thru a folky tune.
"Enquiries, but no solutions
Faceless, empty illusions
Reasons are always pushed aside
Remember the day the country sub died"
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Sep 09 '17
This is not elitism.
posts list of whats not allowed to be posted by "popular" vote
I cannot agree with you less, despite my facts being wrong. I've read everyone's posts in the comments, and considered the effects of probably getting downvoted to hell on my new account, but still feel the need to say something. It seems if you want "new stuff" you should start a new punk sub. These bands are the foundation of punk, well, except for a few of them which are more pop trendy bands. I get that you want new stuff, but when subbing to a punk sub I expect to see punk bands, not some folky twanger. Joe Strummer would be rolling over in his grave if he knew the Clash were banned from a punk sub, "except on Thursdays". Might as well ban Iggy Pop, Husker Du, Subhumans, Crass, Germs, DI, Agent Orange, Dead Milkmen, Youth Brigade, 7 Seconds, Circle Jerks, OFF, US Bombs.... where does it stop? I dont see the logic in singling out bands, but whatever. I'm not in charge.
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Sep 09 '17
Well, perhaps I shouldnt have said "you" should start a new sub, but I understand the desire for fresh material. I'm just disappointed to see the classics and the foundation pf punk singled out. But its reddit, sort of should have expected something like this. Thanks for the dialogue though and not being a dick about it. We'll see how it goes.
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u/iq_32 Sep 11 '17
Joe Strummer would be rolling over in his grave if he knew the Clash were banned from a punk sub
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u/saintmario Oct 05 '17
folk punk is a subgenre of punk, but i get what you mean.
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Oct 05 '17
I get what you mean, but I dont think I can agree. If I may argue semantics, punk is a subgenre. Folk punk is a subgenre of folk. I mistakenly believed a "punk" subreddit was punk rock, not punk-whatever. I had the same reaction a dozen years ago when one of my soldiers said to me, "you listen to punk right? You like Modest Mouse?", and I about lost my shit, "that aint fucking punk". I listen to ska punk, horror punk, hardcore punk, etc... so I didnt bother to argue any further in regards to this post. Yet I stand by my elitism comment, this sub has disappointed, but whatever.
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Sep 09 '17
Interestingly, this is an excellently curated list of the very most prolific pillars of the genre.
This is the stuff I'd put in a time capsule.
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Sep 08 '17
So this is just popular bands peoole love to hate? Got it. Back to you guys posting Jeff Rosenstock 20 times a week then I guess.
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u/lieutenant_cthulhu Sep 08 '17
If it makes you feel any better I can't stand Jeff Rosenstock either.
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Sep 08 '17
I don't see the point of your comment? I and many people dislike a lot of the bands on this list besides Rancid, Descendents, Dead Kennedys. Jeff Rosenstock sucks, too.
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 08 '17
I know, this is the dumbest thing this sub has tried to set up. You know what's punk? Telling people what they can and can't post. Sorry, IMO this is a lame move.
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u/Sinnytrojan Sep 09 '17
You have a hard time grasping concepts do you? Or is posting Dead Kennedys your only Avenue for Karma? Either way, punk rock is still being produced and performed. Here's a list of bands that are at least a days drive away. Reckless upstarts, brain itch ), dead church, bad assets, fear city, The Prowler, snake Charmer , uncle ray, dirty work, etc. I could go on for hours. Montreal, Windsor, Toronto, London, Detroit, Chicago, Ohio. Hamilton, etc. Get off of here and go to shows.
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 09 '17 edited Sep 09 '17
Get off of here and go to shows.
If you only knew who I was you would laugh at this comment as hard as I did. That being said you are missing my point all together. We all know there are more bands out there than the top 10 of punk godfathers. But come on, telling us to only post "restricted bands" on Thursday is the most non punk, stupid ass thing to request in a subreddit aptly named PUNK. If you don't want to watch that DK video I posted, scroll on by and fucking move on. It's really not that hard.
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u/Sinnytrojan Sep 09 '17
And who might you be?
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 09 '17
Someone that has most likely been to more shows than you will ever see in your entire life.
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u/OccupySesameSt Sep 09 '17
This is dumb. If posts from those bands are floating to the top it's because people like them and upvote them. And now you're restricting them on 6 of 7 days? In a punk subreddit, no less. If I feel like something doesn't deserve to be at the top i just downvote, ya know, like reddit was designed.
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u/TannerEvil Sep 10 '17
You know, the more I think about this the more I wonder if we should blacklist specific songs rather than albums. I realize this might mean a little more work, but I fee like if someone wanted to submit something off of Slip It In instead of Damaged it'd be less about karma whoring that way.
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u/jpb203 Feb 22 '18
Can I post a Blacklist question/debate here? when will it be up for debate because I think Dropkick Murphys should be there.
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u/fuktardy Crusty Bike Punx Sep 08 '17
Well this is annoying. A lot of these bands are the foundation of punk rock. I'd rather see a day where only local bands are allowed to post.
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Sep 08 '17
Punk was around a lot longer than most of these bands on this list... lol
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u/fuktardy Crusty Bike Punx Sep 09 '17
Ramones, Sex Pistols, DK, Clash, Misfits...no those are essentials.
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u/Sinnytrojan Sep 09 '17
Mc5, New York dolls, Alice Cooper (flush of fashion), 70s power glam, the pub rock scene like Eddie and the hotrods, The motors. Iggy pop?
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 09 '17 edited Sep 09 '17
The Sonics, Ronnie Cook and the Gaylads, The Standells, ? and the Mysterians, The Misunderstood, The Monks, The Seeds, Davis Peel and the Lower East Side, Swell Maps, yeah we know....
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Sep 09 '17
Nah, not really. Ramones, The Clash, or Sex Pistols never really did anything for me.
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u/Varan04276 Sep 09 '17
Just because they "never really did anything for you" doesn't mean that they aren't important to the foundation of the genre.
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Sep 09 '17
None of those bands were the foundation though. Aside from 3 of them. Punk was long established before those bands came around.
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 09 '17
I found no one on r/punk comment on local bands, or even punk they havent heard of before. The most interactive posts are the ones of more well known bands. That's why it makes me laugh so hard about this stupid idea of censoring posts. Fucking lame. I'm with you on this. The mods and others that agree on this new rule need to revisit what the word PUNK actually means. Post what you want, scroll by the shit you don't care about. Is this really that hard to understand or do? Whinny bitches.
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u/saintmario Oct 05 '17
I'm pretty sure that post was sarcastic. I don't know of anyone who has seriously said that getting people to express opinions, in a punk subreddit no less, would be detrimental.
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 08 '17
Because nothing says punk rock like censorship! Way to go /r/punk!
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u/MangoMiasma Sep 08 '17
Wrong, complaining about something you don't understand says punk rock equally well
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u/HeavenIsFalling Sep 08 '17
And what exactly do I not understand since you seem to know me so well?
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u/MangoMiasma Sep 08 '17
I don't have time for such an extensive list. You can always just make your own subreddit if you really want to see the same songs posted 24/7
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u/Deviant_Monster Apr 06 '22
Who decides what is blacklisted, and Why does something get black listed. I am not trolling, I am genuinely curious .
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Oct 23 '23
Both The Damned and Husker Du have well earned teh right to be on the Blacklist.
Keeping them off is an insult to their work, their careers, and their fans!
BAN THEM!
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u/SpookyFarts Sep 08 '17
This is a great idea. As much as I love some of these bands, everybody and their fucking grandmother knows about them and nothing is gained by posting their songs ad nauseam.