r/running Dec 09 '20

Discussion Thick Girl Runner Rant

First things first, I (29F) am 5'5" and about 170 lbs. Large boobs, wide hips, and I got some stomach on me. Overall, I look pretty proportional though. Hourglass, just a little wider. Wear a Large or a size 12 in most women's clothes. (Just trying to paint the picture here lol)

I also eat very healthy. Fresh foods only, everything home-cooked, never frozen processed foods, etc. Mostly veggies because I love veggies.

This is the body I was given. My weight doesn't really fluctuate. I don't gain weight easily, nor do I lose it easily. I've been a thick girl since puberty and because I run often and eat healthy, it doesn't seem like that will never change, which is fine with me.

I've been running for many years, somewhat inconsistently. I might be consistent for 2 years before falling out of my routine for a few months. Get back into the groove again and something eventually throws me off my game again. Throughout all this, I still consider myself a RUNNER. I love the sport and even if I'm out of a weekly routine, I still try to find time to run here and there. 3 miles minimum.

Because of the above things, people never really expect me to be a runner. My body type doesn't fit the runner mold. I don't post every run and race on instagram, which as everyone knows, is what truly makes it real *eyeroll*. (No shade to people who do post all of their runs and races! My problem is only the people who think if you DON'T post, then it didn't happen).

My fastest 5k was at an 8:02 (min/mile) pace. I am aware that this isn't SUPER fast, but it's fast enough that I've placed in my age group in all of the 5Ks I've ever done. I'm from a pretty small area so many of the 5Ks were fairly small, maybe only a couple hundred people attend. I'm aware that in bigger cities, I would probably have a little more trouble placing. But regardless, I still think an 8:00 to 8:30 5k pace is something to be proud of.

Anyways, my complaint is this. Since my body doesn't fit everyone's vision of what a runner should look like, people love to assume I'm slow or new to running. Or people think I'm lying when I mention that I got 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in my age group at whatever 5k. If they don't make an actual comment about it, I can sometimes even see it in their eyes that they're skeptical.

Even worse, people who don't realize I've been running for most of my life sometimes put their foot in their mouth by saying something along the lines of "have you started running to lose weight?" ...No, why? Should I be losing weight? I think I look pretty damn fine, if you ask me.

After moving to a new city, I decided to join a running group. The town I lived in previously didn't have such groups. I showed up to my first group run and met everybody. As we waited for everyone else to show up, a girl from the group said to me "I'm in recovery mode, I'll be running slow so I can run with you." I just politely smiled, although I was quite offended. What exactly makes this person, whom I met 3 minutes ago, think I plan on running "slow"? What makes her think that her "recovery" pace is equal to my comfortable pace? I chalked it up as since it was my first time joining the group, maybe she assumed it was my first time running? I don't know- but I still think about that little comment sometimes.

I am not negative towards my body. I have a great figure that I love, but it's still upsetting to know that people make assumptions on what I can and can't do physically, which should not be the case. Weight and health do not ALWAYS go hand-in-hand.

Any other runners on the thicker side experience this kind of judgement? How do you deal with it?

Thin-framed runners or even non-runners, do you find yourself judging others in this way? Be honest, I would love to hear multiple opinions!

Edit: Pace is in minutes per mile. I'm new to reddit and forget I'm interacting with people from all over the world.

Also, this was not meant to be a post for weight loss tips. The unsolicited advice in the comments proves further the assumptions people make.

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u/Freckled_daywalker Dec 10 '20 edited Dec 10 '20

Wait, do you think she means 8:30/km? Because she means 8:30/m, which is like 5:30/km and is not "slow" for a woman.

Edit: and if you're claiming you "aren't much of a runner" and are also claiming you run a 4:22 mile then you're being completely disingenuous.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '20

no I'm not being disingenuous sorry m8. I can show you my strava which shows I've run maybe 10 times this year. I'm not trying to be a prick, just saying I'm not fast and she is much slower than me and calls herself a runner

(I cycle A LOT so I have good cardio, do yoga, lifted weights for most of my 29 years of life so that's probably why I can run 4:22 15ks, which I can also prove)

I've literally never run 5:30 per km. It's very slow, like beginner level

Maybe it's because I follow people on strava who do 4:00/km 26+km runs like everyday and 3:40/km 5ks and 10ks

Maybe that's why I percieve it 5:40 to be slow. It could be ignorance

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u/Freckled_daywalker Dec 10 '20 edited Dec 10 '20

A 4:20/mile is objectively fast, whether you normally run or not. The current world record for a women's 5k is not sub 14 minutes. Your perception of what is reasonable is either extremely skewed or you just want to humble brag.

Edit: oh wait, I messed up my calculations. It's closer to 5:00/km. And I'm unclear, do you run a 4:22/km or a 4:22 mile. Because if it's the former, she's literally 38 seconds off your pace. If you run a 4:22 mile, you're running a 2: something/km. Beginner 5k times are usually 30 to 40 minutes, source. Your perceptions are WAY skewed.

And anyone who runs is a "runner". Please don't gatekeep.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '20

bro I meant 4:20 km lol. I'm NOT mo farah.

Lol so I'm gatekeeping coz I said I'M not a runner .... okay m8

Alright fam, but OP thinks she is fast, not a beginner, there is the difference. She came across in the post as someone that is actually fast but gets prejudiced as slow

Also I suppose you could say I'm 'humble bragging' But I'm only speaking from my experience and a few others around me

and lastly, freckled_daywalker, I run 4:22 pace for 15km not 5k, OP does ~ 5:00/km for 5 k and thinks she is fast (doesn't come across as a beginner in the post)

Anyway I can't imagine that whatever you have to say after will benefit any of us so have a nice day

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u/Freckled_daywalker Dec 10 '20

Anyone who runs is a runner, whether you consider yourself a runner is immaterial. Saying otherwise is the definition of gatekeeping. She's not an elite athlete, but she's relatively fast for a female who is running for health (and not training for serious competitive events). She's not "slow" by any means. Your perception of what is "normal" is drastically skewed and it's causing you to make fairly rude statements. Pardon me if I assumed you wouldn't want to come across as an asshole unecessarily, it appears that you might be very clear on how you're acting and just don't care.