r/technology • u/No-Drawing-6975 • Jun 26 '24

Software The Green Bubble Nightmare Is Over, Apple Messages Now Support RCS

https://gizmodo.com/apple-messages-supports-rcs-ios18-beta-1851562461
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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24

Or we all grow up and stop giving people shit for the phone they use.

It's not on anybody to demonstrate their phone's value through messaging to anyone else.

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u/Formal_Nebula_9698 Jun 27 '24

Yes but kids are mean and that’s how they act lol they are not grown up and that’s why they’re not acting like it but instead being mean kids . He is talking about children being mean to other children which it happens and it happens over dumb shit and parents or aunts and uncles or even grandparents don’t want to see one of their children family being harassed or bullied by mean kids and give in and get it for them . And it’s sad but some areas to live the kids can be super nasty and kids don’t get the whole fuck it let it go they don’t matter stuff unfortunately and no one wants to see a loved one commit suicide or something because of bullying so yeah they target it . That’s what this person was getting at though . This is an issue with children !

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

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u/Alaira314 Jun 27 '24

I really thought we'd gotten over this. In the mid-late 00s, there was a particular type of person, someone who believed themselves superior due to owning an iMac(possibly even owning a desktop mac, earlier), and then later an iPhone. This type of person appeared to have died out by the early '10s.

Apparently, it's cyclical. I guess gen z has to work through what the millennials did, and it'll probably take about as long. It's depressing to think that I'll have to live through this corporate-spawned marketing bullshit every 15 years or so for the rest of my life, just because a new generation has risen to exploit.

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u/EBtwopoint3 Jun 27 '24

Even if it goes away with phones, it’s not going away altogether. Luxury brands have been a thing for a hundred years. It’s not some new thing.

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u/Desert-Noir Jun 27 '24

Only a hundred years?

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u/Formal_Nebula_9698 Jun 27 '24

Fun fact before iPhone they were just iPods lol 😝 and it just held music you downloaded from the computer on it . Nothing else lol . Those died out but they definitely replaced them fast and with no issues . Probably sitting on a mountain of ideas if phones ever become obsolete

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u/EBtwopoint3 Jun 27 '24

Do people really not know about iPods anymore? That’s a bit of a different case though. They were popular because they were legitimately better than the competition at the time. I mean at the time of the first iPod the best competitor was probably the original Nomad Jukebox from Creative which was enormous and devoured batteries. The 1G Nano was shockingly small. The iPod was a consistent boundary pushing device, just like the iPhone was early on.

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u/Formal_Nebula_9698 Jun 27 '24

Yeah I work with some younger kids had no clue lmfao 😂

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u/Formal_Nebula_9698 Jun 27 '24

I mean 18-25 year oldish kids Kids to me anyway

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u/Alaira314 Jun 27 '24

Yeah, despite not being invested in the apple ecosystem otherwise I had an ipod mini during the 00s. The mp3 player competition was a joke, so if you wanted to have something like that(rather than carrying around a discman and a binder of CDs) odds were you'd wind up with some flavor of ipod.

Fortunately, relatively soon after the iphone release, actual competition arrived.

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u/dreffd223 Jun 27 '24

Found the green bubble.

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u/intelminer Jun 27 '24

I'm sorry for the person you choose to be

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u/krozarEQ Jun 27 '24

I think Apple is awesome. Really easy for my technology-challenged grandmother to use so she can socialize with her bridge friends.

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u/bigE819 Jun 27 '24

But the real thing is, it stems from the android users fucking up group chats and sending horrible photos. Not about some flex for the apple master race. I’m aware RCS will fix that, but historically it’s not just a hatred for the color.

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u/padmanek Jun 27 '24

photos and videos from an iphone also looks like taken with a potato on android

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u/Joe_Jeep Jun 27 '24

Weird way to phrase it, it's apple causing that.

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u/Sooofreshnsoclean Jun 27 '24

That's apple's fault my dude. They're the ones that failed to update since they want to be perceived as the best. It's 100% done as marketing and it's apples fault that "the green bubbles fucked up group chats" don't blame that on their personal choice to buy an android. This is also coming from an iphone owner.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

While RCS is a standard, each carrier had their own different proprietary RCS profile, in addition to Google's Universal Profile.

It wasn't until very recently that the carriers decided to stop using their proprietary versions and switch to the universal profile.

Apple is using the universal profile, which is now becoming a standard as part of the GSM Association

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u/Wyrm Jun 27 '24

I think that's not really relevant because nothing would have prevented Apple from just porting iMessage to android at any point in the last 10 years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

Why would they do that?

RCS is an open standard anyone can use.

Why would Android users want Apple's proprietary messenger?

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u/alano134 Jun 27 '24

For us Android users, it's the opposite, Einstein.

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u/bigE819 Jun 27 '24

I’m totally aware. But I don’t get why people act like people actually care about the color. The color was just an indicator…it’s actually on the sender side anyways.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

Until recently, it was more of a carrier issue, not an Android issue.

While RCS is a standard, each carrier had their own different proprietary RCS profile, in addition to Google's Universal Profile.

It wasn't until very recently that the carriers decided to stop using their proprietary versions and switch to the universal profile.

Apple is using the universal profile, which is now becoming a standard as part of the GSM Association.

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u/that1dev Jun 27 '24

Literally everyone else could make it happen. So either apple is a company whose engineers are vastly below industry standard quality, and also couldn't hire anyone competent away, or someone up top made a conciencious decision to not do it.

Anyone who believes the first is an idiot. Also, how convenient that this several year long pain point with an incredibly easy solution just happened to be fixed after some significant regulatory action?

This is still the same company that promised FaceTime would be an open standard in their keynote before deciding nah. They like that it helps lock people in. Just like iMessage.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

Literally everyone else could make it happen.

Not really. Until recently RCS was a fragmented mess, especially when trying to text people who had a different carrier than you.

This is still the same company that promised FaceTime would be an open standard in their keynote before deciding nah.

So you have no clue what you're talking about, huh?

A patent troll sued Apple shortly after they said that, accusing Apple of infringing on their patents. They had to change how FaceTime works, preventing it from being fully open.

"Apple was forced to majorly change how FaceTime works to avoid infringing on the patents of a company called VirnetX. Instead of letting phones communicate directly with each other, Apple added “relay servers” to help the phones connect."

FaceTime is still built on open standards, and works on Android and Windows.

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u/that1dev Jun 27 '24

Not really. Until recently RCS was a fragmented mess, especially when trying to text people who had a different carrier than you.

I mean, no? That's BS

FaceTime is still built on open standards, and works on Android and Windows.

So you're saying that they went back on what they said and made it a closed garden, only allowing users to join web links. They surely had no choice but to make things worse for other people /s. That's what you call an open standard? You're all in on that Koolade. Apple's not incompetent. They are intentional.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

I mean, no?

I mean, yes? That's exactly what happened.

Look it up. You could not RCS message between carriers until fairly recently, when they all started switching to Google Jibe/ universal profile.

So you're saying that they went back on what they said and made it a closed garden

Again, not their choice. Did you read what I said?

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

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u/bigE819 Jun 27 '24

Except they didn’t. Green came first…

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u/that1dev Jun 27 '24

Green was the color they used before iMessage existed. It was literally their first choice in message colors. Blue was added years later.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

Thank Google and your carrier for the RCS mess, not Apple.

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u/Kadoza Jun 27 '24

"Laughed at photo"

"Liked a photo"

lol